testimony · February 16, 2000
Congressional Testimony
Alan Greenspan
CONDUCT OF MONETARY POLICY
Report of the Federal Reserve Board pursuant to the
Full-Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978
P.L. 95-523
and The State of the Economy
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ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS
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HOUSE COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
JAMES A. LEACH, Iowa, Chairman
BILL McCOLLUM, Florida, Vice Chairynan
MARGE ROUKEMA, New Jersey JOHN J. LAFA^CE, New York
DOUG K. BEREUTER, Nebraska BRUCE F. VEMTO, Minnesota
RICHARD H. BAKER, Louisiana BARNEY FRANK,"Ttfassachiisetts
RICK LAZIO, New York PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania
SPENCER BACKUS III, Alabama MAXINE WATERS, California
MICHAEL N. CASTLE, Delaware CAROLYN B. MALQNEY, New York
PETER T. KING, New York LUIS V. GUTIERREZ, Illinois
TOM CAMPBELL, California NYDIA M. VELAZQUEZ, New York
EDWARD R. ROYCE, California MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina
FRANK D. LUCAS, Oklahoma GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York
JACK METCALF, Washington KENNETH E. BENTSEN JR., Texas
ROBERT W. NEY, Ohio JAMES H. MALONEY, Connecticut
BOB BARR, Georgia DARLENE HOOLEY, Oregon
SUE W. KELLY, New York JULIA M. CARSON, Indiana
RON PAUL, Texas ROBERT A. WEYGAND, Rhode Island
DAVE WELDON, Florida BRAD SHERMAN, California
JIM RYUN, Kansas MAX SANDLIN, Texas
MERRILL COOK, Utah GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York
BOB RILEY, Alabama BARBARA LEE, California
RICK HILL, Montana FRANK R. MASCARA, Pennsylvania
STEVEN c. LATOURETTE, Ohio JAY INSLEE, Washington
DONALD A. MANZULLO, Illinois JANICE D. SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois
WALTER B. JONES JR., North Carolina DENNIS MOORE, Kansas
PAUL RYAN, Wisconsin CHARLES A. GONZALEZ, Texas
DOUG OSE, California STEPHANIE TUBES JONES, Ohio
JOHN E. SWEENEY, New York MICHAEL E. CAPUANO, Massachusetts
JUDY BIGGERT, Illinois MICHAEL P. FORBES, New York
LEE TERRY, Nebraska
MARK GREEN, Wisconsin BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont
PATRICK J. TOOMEY, Pennsylvania
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CONTENTS
Hearing held on:
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Appendix:
February 17, 2000 45
WITNESSES
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2000
Greenspan, Hon. Alan, Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve
System f
APPENDIX
Prepared statements:
Leach, Hon. James A 46
Bachus, Hon. Spencer 47
Forbes, Hon. Michael P 52
Roukema, Hon. Marge 53
Ryan, Hon. Paul 59
Greenspan, Hon. Alan 91
ADDITIONAL MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD
Bachus, Hon. Spencer:
Letter to Chairman Alan Greenspan, February 17, 2000, with response,
March 10, 2000 49
Roukema, Hon. Marge:
"Shrinking Treasury Debt Creates Uncertain World," New York Times,
February 17, 2000 55
Greenspan, Hon. Alan:
Monetary Policy Report to the Congress Pursuant to the Full
Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978, February 17, 2000 61
Written response to a question from Hon. James A. Leach 104
Written response to questions from Hon. Spencer Bachus 105
Written response to questions from Hon. Ron Paul 108
Written response to questions from Hon. Bernard Sanders Ill
Written response to questions from Hon. Brad Sherman 112
(III)
CONDUCT OF MONETARY POLICY
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2000
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES,
Washington, DC.
The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:07 a.m., in room
2128, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. James A. Leach,
[chairman of the committee], presiding.
Present: Chairman Leach; Representatives Roukema, Bachus,
Castle, Royce, Paul, Ryun of Kansas, Hill, Ryan of Wisconsin, Ose,
Biggert, Terry, Toomey, LaFalce, Kanjorski, Sanders, Watt,
Bentsen, J. Maloney of Connecticut, Sherman, Inslee, and Moore.
Chairman LEACH. The hearing will come to order.
The committee meets today to receive the Semiannual Report of
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the Con-
duct of Monetary Policy and the State of the Economy as Mandated
in the Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978.
Chairman Greenspan, welcome back to the House Banking Com-
mittee and congratulations on your renomination and reconfirma-
tion as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. The President of the
United States and the Senate have made a wise and timely deci-
sion. It underscores that this country has been well served by an
independent non-partisan Federal Reserve.
The Act under which this hearing is held prescribes that the
Federal Reserve System conduct policies to bring to realization "the
goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-
term interest rates."
As we exit the 20th Century and enter a new millennium, the
underpinning goals of the Humphrey-Hawkins legislation appear to
have been met. More Americans have jobs than ever before; the un-
employment rate is at a historic modern-day low; inflation is in
check; productivity growth is the highest in fifteen years; and not
only is the Federal budget in balance, but to the astonishment of
most, surpluses are forecast for the foreseeable future.
Sustained economic growth has occurred in part due to signifi-
cant private sector productivity increases, in part as a result of a
mix of fiscal and monetary policies which, perhaps for the first time
in decades, are working in sync rather than in juxtaposition. The
budget surplus, which has had the effect of reducing reliance of
debt issuances at the Federal level, has increased the flexibility of
the Fed to manage monetary policy.
Divided Government has had its rewards. A conservative bent to
the Congress has moderated the Executive Branch and has served
well the American economy. In this regard, it deserves stressing
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that just as the Executive Branch has primary responsibility in the
fields of international affairs and the Fed and the Open Market
Committee have authority over the conduct of monetary policy, the
Congress is preeminently accountable for Federal budgetary mat-
ters.
One of the stark difficulties in our economy is that while the gap
between the well-to-do and the less-well-off is widening, job cre-
ation appears to be spreading to the most disadvantaged parts of
the population. Growth has been propelled in a circumstance where
per capita Federal Government spending has leveled off, or perhaps
even declined, giving rise to the conclusion that for the vast major-
ity of Americans, the economics of compassion is the economics of
Governmental restraint.
Before turning to your testimony, Mr. Chairman, I would like to
ask if the Ranking Member of the Full Committee and the Chair-
man and Ranking Member of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee
have opening statements.
[The prepared statement of Hon. James A. Leach can be found
on page 46 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Mr. LaFalce.
Mr. LAFALCE. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Greenspan, we are delighted to have you before us
again, and I sincerely am delighted that you were reappointed as
the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. You have done your
job admirably. You have done your job regardless of the President
being a Republican or a Democrat, and I know you will continue
to do that regardless of the circumstances, regardless of whether
there is a Republican or Democratic Congress and you have been
constant in your thinking and your policies and objective in every-
thing you have done.
Whether you or the President or the Congress, too, we have all
been tremendous beneficiaries of having to do our job in the age
of technology. Sometimes people ask me "Who deserves more cred-
it, Alan Greenspan, the President, Democrats or Republicans?",
and I always give them the same answer: "technology." It has been
tremendous. It has been phenomenal. I also think that your ap-
pearance under the auspices of Humphrey-Hawkins is extremely
important. It gives us an opportunity to dialog on some very impor-
tant issues.
Your domain is primarily economic and primarily monetary pol-
icy as opposed to fiscal policy, although everything is interrelated.
And yet we do not live in a vacuum. We live with statistics, but
not statistics as an end in and of themselves, statistics as a reflec-
tion of where we have been, where we are and where we might go.
We have to penetrate these statistics.
What does it mean when we talk about unemployment rate?
Well, first of all I suppose we have to ask ourselves how accurate
are those unemployment figures.
What is the extent of our under-employment? Are people making
more real money? That is extremely important. Do they have to
rely on two jobs or two incomes or three or four incomes in order
to keep up?
You talk about productivity improvements, but how accurate are
those productivity measurements? Are people really working longer
hours at home with the laptops that they are able to bring home,
and do we therefore really have enhanced productivity? Are we
coming to these productivity improvement judgments backward,
looking at output and then extrapolating that there has been these
huge productivity improvements?
But beyond questions such as that, I would like to see Congress
have hearings not just on these statistics, but the true social health
of the Nation. We are in an era of unprecedented growth. Do we
have better health care, and for whom? You know, how is it that
in an era of unprecedented economic growth, so they say, we have
45 million Americans without any health insurance whatsoever.
What is the disconnect? Why is that happening? Does that mean
that there is increased disparity within our society?
What is the status of education? Are those in affluent areas get-
ting better and better education and those in poorer areas getting
worse and worse education?
This is not exclusively within your domain, but you are a great
collector of data and figures. And do these data and these figures
come within your public concern or personal concern and what are
your comments on it.
So we have a great shining city on the Hill, but what about that
other portion of the city that is not shining so greatly? And it
would be remiss on our part if we just use these hearings to regur-
gitate dry economic statistics without relating these statistics to
the human condition, and whether or not there are better ways of
life for not just those of the top rungs of society, but for all rungs
of society given the prosperity that we love to proclaim and boast
so much about.
Thank you.
Chairman LEACH. Chairman Bachus.
Mr. BACHUS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank you, Chairman
Greenspan. I want to first assure you that you won't have to wait
an hour like you did in the Senate last week to testify. And I will
try to wrap this up. First of all, I want to commend you on your
reappointment and also on your accomplishments.
Under your tenure mortgage rates have dropped about 2Vz per-
cent, inflation is down 1.7 percent, unemployment is down almost
2 percent. And that is quite an achievement. We have got low infla-
tion, low unemployment, rising wages, robust economy, a rising
stock market, undoubtedly your leadership on the Federal Reserve
has been a significant part of that. So you are to be commended.
Today we are going to hear what is required by the Humphrey-
Hawkins law which was passed in 1978. There is some sort of rum-
ble in the Senate that we may quit having these hearings or we
may go to a different format. And I would simply like to say that
it is my opinion that these hearings are very helpful. They are
helpful for the public to get to share in the discussion and I think
they are very useful. Of course they can have temporary effects on
the stock market one way or the other, but I think it is something
that is very important and ought to be continued. I want to make
that clear.
I also want to point out this in the context of the Humphrey-
Hawkins, for the first time since Humphrey-Hawkins was passed
under your leadership this country has achieved the goals of Hum-
phrey-Hawkins. We have not only achieved them, but we have
maintained them over the past eighteen months. Balanced budget,
adequate productivity growth, reasonable price stability, and unem-
ployment rate near 4 percent, all were goals of Humphrey-Haw-
kins.
In fact, when that legislation passed most economists said that
we would never reach those goals. Others said that if we reached
all those goals together, they would work at cross purposes and we
wouldn't have a good economy. So, the wisdom of those goals, now
that they have been achieved, I think is being demonstrated daily
in our economy. But as we prepare to enter the new millennium,
I think it is important for the Federal Reserve, and I think today
gives you a good opportunity to clearly articulate the principles on
which future policy decisions will be made. Particularly speak to us
and discuss why the Fed thinks it is necessary to maintain this
tightening bias or tightening mode when we are seeing very little
real inflation. We may be seeing signs of inflation, but the inflation
rate is still low.
Let me conclude by saying I know there are a lot of pitfalls out
there, a lot of potential things that can affect the economy. Obvi-
ously inflation is something we talk about all the time and we have
a spike in oil prices, which is of great concern. You have expressed
your opinion on that. Also, the inversion of the bond yields, which
historically both when you get—obviously inflation, but also when
you get a bond yield that stays inverted, it usually portends an eco-
nomic downturn. So I would like you to discuss that bond inver-
sion.
Also, I would like you to talk about what you consider some other
danger signs. Let me just offer two of them to you, one that I am
especially concerned about that sort of was confirmed in the Sev-
enth Federal Reserve Report is margin lending. Now margin lend-
ing tends to go up when the market goes up, so we should expect
that margin lending would go up. But actually what we are seeing
is we are seeing margin lending going up faster than the market
as a whole. I would like you to discuss what concerns you have
about that, particularly in that the banks are increasing their lend-
ing to security brokers and security brokers are increasing their
lending not only to their internal accounts, but also to other inves-
tors. So I would like you to touch on that.
The second thing is our U.S. current account deficit, which is
forecast to climb to 4.2 percent GDP this year. And to not only
that, but to remain above 4 percent for 2001. I know that can cause
problems if investors don't continue to purchase U.S. denominated
financial assets on a large scale and large enough to finance our
external debt. So I would hope you will comment on that.
It is undeniable that our economy, our prosperity in this country,
the growth, is at a historical high, but at the same time, Mr. Chair-
man, there are potential dangers that exist and threaten our econ-
omy. And we will be counting on you to help guide us down the
unmapped and the untraveled roads of the new millennium. I will
say this to the committee and to the American people that your ex-
perience and intellect should serve us well in this endeavor, one
that will have unprecedented challenges and complexities. Thank
you.
[The prepared statement of Hon. Spencer Bachus can be found
on page 47 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
For a final opening comment, Mr. Sanders.
Mr. SANDERS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And welcome, Mr.
Greenspan. I do not share the rosy outlook of my friend from Ala-
bama. And I want to pick up on some of the points made by Mr.
LaFalce, because after all of the statistics are out there, really
what matters is what is going on with the average person.
And I know that the average person turns on the television every
day and hears that the economy is booming, we have never had it
so good. But sometimes those average working people have a little
difficulty watching the television, because they are out working
longer hours for lower wages than they used to. And the statistics
are pretty clear that between 1973 and 1998 real wages for the av-
erage American worker declined. Now in the last few years we
have seen some increases and we are appreciative of that. But let's
not kid ourselves, the average American today is working longer
hours for lower wages. It is not uncommon for that worker, wheth-
er it is in the State of Vermont or New York State or anyplace else,
to have to work two or three jobs.
Mr. Greenspan, when you and I were a bit younger what used
to be understood is that one breadwinner in a family, before the
great economic boom, could go out and work forty hours a week
and bring in enough income to take care of the family.
Well, you know what? In the State of Vermont and throughout
the country in the midst of this great booming economy I do not
see so many families where one breadwinner working forty hours
a week is earning enough money to take care of the family. What
I see are wives out working, as well as husbands. I see people
working fifty or sixty hours a week. I see people working two jobs
and three jobs.
So let me respectfully disagree with those people who say the
economy is booming for all people. Now, is the economy booming
for some people? Sure it is. The wealthiest people in this country
have never had it so good. Even magazines like U.S. News talk
about the rich getting richer.
We have today in the United States the largest gap between the
rich and the poor of any Nation in the industrialized world. And
let me not just talk about economics, let me talk about morality,
if I might, something we don't always talk about in the Banking
Committee. We have got to raise the question of whether it is ap-
propriate in our Nation, under current economic policy, that we see
a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires, and at the same
time throughout this country the emergency food shelves are over-
flowing because low income people don't have enough food to eat.
We continue to have—we don't talk about this issue—by far the
highest rate of child poverty in the industrialized world.
Scandinavia and many of the European countries have basically
wiped out childhood poverty, and yet 20 percent of the kids in this
country live in poverty. Mr. LaFalce appropriately mentioned that
close to 45 million Americans have zero health insurance and many
more are underinsured. I think we have got to, as a committee, as
a Nation, start dealing with the reality of the very unequal dis-
tribution of income and wealth in this country.
Is it appropriate, my colleagues, that the wealthiest 1 percent of
the population owns more wealth than the bottom 95 percent, or
that one person owns more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of
the families in this country?
I am also concerned about something that recently came to the
public's eye, and maybe Mr. Greenspan can comment on this later.
The International Labor Organization, the ILO, recently published
a report, and working people in the United States now have the du-
bious distinction of working longer hours than the Japanese, and
longer hours than the workers of any other industrialized nation.
In fact, we have a situation where the number of Americans
working more than one job at a time increased 92 percent between
1973 and 1997. Americans who hold more than one job work an av-
erage of forty-eight hours a week, and 40 percent of them work
fifty to sixty hours a week. Is this a booming economy? Why, if this
economy is booming, why aren't people making more money and
working fewer hours and having more time with their families?
So, Mr. Chairman, I would hope, and I echo Mr. LaFalce, that
we have look at what is happening to the average person in this
country, and the quality of life of that person. And I think the end
result is that we need some fundamental changes in economic pol-
icy to make the economy work for the middle class and the working
class, and not just for the millionaires and the billionaires.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. I thank the distinguished gentleman.
Mr. Chairman, you may proceed with the understanding that
there are philosophical divides in America on this as reflected in
the committee. Please.
STATEMENT OF HON. ALAN GREENSPAN, CHAIRMAN,
BOARD OF GOVERNORS, FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
Mr. GREENSPAN. I must say, Mr. Chairman, that that is what
makes our country great. That is the ability to have differences
freely expressed and debated, and there are not that many coun-
tries in the world which can say that they have it at the level that
we do. I think that is a great strength of this Nation.
Mr. Chairman and Members of the committee, I appreciate the
opportunity to present the Federal Reserve's Semiannual Report on
the Economy and Monetary Policy.
There is little evidence that the American economy, which grew
more than 4 percent in 1999 and surged forward at an even faster
pace in the second half of the year, is slowing appreciably. At the
same time, inflation has remained largely contained. An increase
in the overall rate of inflation in 1999 was mainly a result of high-
er energy prices. Importantly, unit labor costs actually declined in
the second half of the year. Indeed, still-preliminary data indicate
that total unit cost increases last year remained extraordinarily
low, even as the business expansion approached a record nine
years. Domestic operating profit margins, after sagging for eighteen
months, apparently turned up again in the fourth quarter, and
profit expectations for major corporations for the first quarter have
been undergoing upward revisions since the beginning of the year,
scarcely an indication of imminent economic weakness.
Underlying this performance, unprecedented in my half-century
of observing the American economy, is a continuing acceleration in
productivity. Non-farm business output per work hour increased
3^4 percent during the past year—likely more than 4 percent when
measured by non-farm business income. Security analysts' projec-
tions of long-term earnings, an indicator of expectations of company
productivity, continued to be revised upward in January, extending
a string of upward revisions that began in early 1995. One result
of this remarkable economic performance has been a pronounced
increase in living standards for the majority of Americans. Another
has been a labor market that has provided job opportunities for
large numbers of people previously struggling to get on the first
rung of a ladder leading to training, skills, and permanent employ-
ment.
Yet those profoundly beneficial forces driving the American econ-
omy to competitive excellence are also engendering a set of imbal-
ances that, unless contained, threaten our continuing prosperity.
Accelerating productivity entails a matching acceleration in the po-
tential output of goods and services and a corresponding rise in
real incomes available to purchase the new output. The problem is
that the pickup in productivity tends to create even greater in-
creases in aggregate demand than in potential aggregate supply.
This occurs principally because a rise in structural productivity
growth has its counterpart in higher expectations for long-term cor-
porate earnings. This, in turn, not only spurs business investment,
but also increases stock prices and the market value of assets held
by households, creating additional purchasing power for which no
additional goods or services have yet been produced.
Historical evidence suggests that perhaps three to four cents out
of every additional dollar of stock market wealth eventually is re-
flected in increased consumer purchases. The sharp rise in the
amount of consumer outlays relative to disposable incomes in re-
cent years and the corresponding fall in the savings rate, has been
consistent with this so-called wealth effect on household purchases.
Outlays prompted by capital gains in excess of increases in in-
come, as best we can judge, have added about 1 percentage point
to annual growth of gross domestic purchases, on average, over the
past five years. The additional growth in spending of recent years
that has accompanied these wealth gains as well as other support-
ing influences on the economy appears to have been met in about
equal measure from increased net imports and from goods and
services produced by the net increase in newly hired workers over
and above the normal growth of the work force, including a sub-
stantial net inflow of workers from abroad.
But these safety valves that have been supplying goods and serv-
ices to meet the recent increments to purchasing power largely gen-
erated by capital gains cannot be expected to absorb an excess of
demand over supply indefinitely. First, growing net imports and a
widening current account deficit require ever larger portfolio and
direct foreign investments in the United States, an outcome that
cannot continue without limit.
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Imbalances in the labor markets perhaps may have even more
serious implications for inflation pressures. While the pool of offi-
cially unemployed and those otherwise willing to work may con-
tinue to shrink, as it has persistently over the past seven years,
there is an effective limit to new hiring, unless immigration is un-
capped. At some point in the continuous reduction in the number
of available workers willing to take jobs, short of the repeal of the
law of supply and demand, wage increases must rise above even
impressive gains in productivity. This would intensify inflationary
pressures or squeeze profit margins, with either outcome capable of
bringing our growing prosperity to an end.
As would be expected, imbalances between demand and potential
supply in markets for goods and services are being mirrored in the
financial markets by an excess in the demand for funds. As a con-
sequence, market interest rates are already moving in the direction
of containing the excess of demand in financial markets and there-
fore in product markets as well. For example, BBB corporate bond
rates adjusted for inflation expectations have risen by more than
1 percentage point during the past two years. However, to date, ris-
ing business earnings expectations and declining compensation for
risk have more than offset the effects of this increase, propelling
equity prices and the wealth effect higher. Should this process con-
tinue, however, with the assistance of a monetary policy vigilant
against emerging macro-economic imbalances, real long-term rates
will at some point be high enough to finally balance demand with
supply at the economy's potential in both the financial and product
markets. Other things equal, this condition will involve equity dis-
count factors high enough to bring the rise in asset values into line
with that of household incomes, thereby stemming the impetus to
consumption relative to income that has come from rising wealth.
This does not necessarily imply a decline in asset values, although
that, of course, can happen at any time for any number of reasons,
but rather that these values will increase no faster than household
incomes.
With foreign economies strengthening and labor markets already
tight, how the current wealth effect is finally contained will deter-
mine whether the extraordinary expansion that it has helped foster
can slow to a sustainable pace, without destabilizing the economy
in the process.
On a broader front, Mr. Chairman, there are few signs to date
of slowing in the pace of innovation and the spread of our newer
technologies that, as I have indicated in previous testimonies, have
been at the root of our extraordinary productivity improvement. In-
deed, some analysts conjecture that we still may be in the earlier
stages of the rapid adoption of new technologies and not yet in
sight of the stage when this wave of innovation will crest. With so
few examples in our history, there is very little basis for determin-
ing the particular stage of development through which we are cur-
rently passing.
Without doubt, the synergies of the microprocessor, laser, fiber-
optic glass, and satellite technologies have brought quantum ad-
vances in information availability. These advances, in turn, have
dramatically decreased business operational uncertainties and risk
premiums and, thereby, have engendered major cost reductions and
productivity advances. There seems little question that further
major advances lie ahead. What is uncertain is the future pace of
the application of these innovations, because it is this pace that
governs the rate of change in productivity and economic potential.
Monetary policy, of course, did not produce the intellectual in-
sights behind the technological advances that have been respon-
sible for the recent phenomenal reshaping of our economic land-
scape. It has, however, been instrumental, we trust, in establishing
a stable financial and economic environment with low inflation that
is conducive to the investments that have exploited these innova-
tive technologies.
Federal budget policy has also played a pivotal role. The emer-
gence of surpluses in the unified budget and of the associated in-
crease in Government saving over the past few years has been ex-
ceptionally important to the balance of the expansion, because the
surpluses have been absorbing a portion of the potential excess of
demand over sustainable supply associated partly with the wealth
effect. Moreover, because the surpluses are augmenting the pool of
domestic saving, they have held interest rates below the levels that
otherwise would have been needed to achieve financial and eco-
nomic balance during this period of exceptional economic growth.
They have, in effect, helped to finance and sustain the productive
private investment that has been key to capturing the benefits of
the newer technologies that, in turn, have boosted the long-term
growth potential of the U.S. economy.
The recent good news on the budget suggests that our longer-
term prospects for continuing this beneficial process of recycling
savings from the public to the private sectors have improved great-
ly in recent years. Nonetheless, budget outlays are expected to
come under mounting pressure as the baby boom generation moves
into retirement, a process that gets under way a decade from now.
Maintaining the surpluses and using them to repay debt over com-
ing years will continue to be an important way the Federal Govern-
ment can encourage productivity-enhancing investment and rising
standards of living. Thus, we cannot afford to be lulled into letting
down our guard on budgetary matters.
Although the outlook is clouded by a number of uncertainties,
the central tendencies of the projections of the Board members and
Reserve Bank presidents imply continued good economic perform-
ance in the United States. Most of them expect economic growth
to slow somewhat this year, easing into the 3Y2 to 3% percent
area. The unemployment rate would remain in the neighborhood of
4 to 4V2 percent. The rate of inflation for total personal consump-
tion expenditures is expected to be 1% to 2 percent, at or a bit
below the rate in 1999, which was elevated by rising energy prices.
Continued favorable developments in labor productivity are an-
ticipated both to raise the economy's capacity to produce, and
through its supporting effects on real incomes and asset values, to
boost private domestic demand. When productivity-driven wealth
increases were spurring demand a few years ago, the effects on re-
source utilization and inflation pressures were offset in part by the
effects of weakening foreign economies and a rising foreign ex-
change value of the dollar, which depressed exports and encour-
aged imports. Last year, with a welcome recovery of foreign econo-
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mies and with the leveling out of the dollar, these factors holding
down demand and prices in the United States started to unwind.
Strong growth in foreign economic activity is expected to continue
this year, and other things equal, the effect of the previous appre-
ciation of the dollar should wane, augmenting demand on U.S. re-
sources and lessening one source of downward pressure on our
prices.
As a consequence, the necessary alignment of the growth of ag-
gregate demand with the growth of potential aggregate supply may
well depend on restraint on domestic demand, which continues to
be buoyed by the lagged effects of increases in stock market valu-
ations. Accordingly, the appreciable increases in both nominal and
real intermediate- and long-term interest rates over the last two
years should act as a needed restraining influence in the period
ahead.
However, to date, interest-sensitive spending has remained ro-
bust, and the Federal Open Market Committee will have to stay
alert for signs that real interest rates have not yet risen enough
to bring the growth of demand into line with that of potential sup-
ply, even should the acceleration of productivity continue.
Achieving that alignment seems more pressing today than it did
earlier, before the effects of imbalances began to cumulate, lessen-
ing the depth of our various buffers against inflationary pressures.
Labor markets, for example, have tightened in recent years as de-
mand has persistently outstripped even accelerating potential sup-
ply. As I have noted previously, we cannot be sure in an environ-
ment with so little historical precedent what degree of labor mar-
ket tautness could begin to push unit costs and prices up more rap-
idly. We know, however, that there is a limit, and we can be sure
that the smaller the pool of people without jobs willing to take
them, the closer we are to that limit. As the Federal Open Market
Committee indicated after its last meeting, the risks still seem to
be weighted on the side of building inflation pressures.
Mr. Chairman, as the American economy enters a new century
as well as a new year, the time is opportune to reflect on the basic
characteristics of our economic system that have brought about our
success in recent years. Competitive and open markets, the rule of
law, fiscal discipline, and a culture of enterprise and entrepreneur-
ship should continue to undergird rapid innovation and enhance
productivity that in turn should foster a sustained further rise in
living standards. It would be imprudent, however, to presume that
the business cycle has been purged from market economies so long
as human expectations are subject to bouts of euphoria and disillu-
sionment. We can only anticipate that we will readily take such di-
versions in stride and trust that beneficent fundamentals will pro-
vide the framework for continued economic progress well into the
next millennium.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hope and trust that my full remarks
will be included for the record. I look forward to your questions.
[The prepared statement of Hon. Alan Greenspan can be found
on page 91 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Without objection,
your full remarks will be placed in the record. Without objection,
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any opening statements of Members of the committee will be
placed in the record as well.
The Chair would like to note that we have been given new equip-
ment in terms of timing that the committee has never had before.
Now we not only have precise measurements of the five minutes,
but we also have a clock that indicates the amount of seconds and
minutes Members go over. And given that this is a large commit-
tee, let me indicate to Members that this will be watched very care-
fully at this kind of setting.
Let me, if I could, begin with a question about the numerical as-
pects of labor in this sense, that economists in the 20th Century
have varying views about the intermix of the importance of capital
and labor. But in countries like Japan it looks like there could well
be a sustaining weakness in the economy based on the fact that the
country is getting quite elderly. In parts of Europe that is the case
and America seems to be about to confront the problem in about
a decade.
So the question I would ask you, and I don't know if the Federal
Reserve has ever opined, does the Federal Reserve—or do you—
have views on issues of a nature like the need or lack thereof for
expanding visas for high tech employees and does that have an ef-
fect on the inflation rate? Does it have an effect on sustaining So-
cial Security?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I am sorry, could you speak into the microphone
a little closer. I was having trouble hearing the question.
Chairman LEACH. The question relates to whether the Federal
Reserve would have a position on the appropriateness of increas-
ing, for example, visas for high tech employees. And does that have
an effect on the inflation rate, does it have an effect on whether
or not over a period of time Social Security can be handled more
readily.
Mr. GREENSPAN. It is fairly apparent that we are under fairly ex-
treme pressure in high skilled labor markets, especially in the high
tech areas. And I know that Congress has been pressured consider-
ably by a number of high tech companies seeking to get increased
visas and increased capacity to bring people into the country. We
do not at the Fed have an official position on that. I would merely
express, as I indicated in my prepared remarks, that it is fairly ap-
parent that the people who are being brought in—and indeed the
growth in our total labor force is approximately one-third immi-
grants, a little more than that actually in recent years—and there
is no question that they contribute substantially to economic
growth in this country.
Chairman LEACH. If I could turn to another subject, oil is on the
minds of many people with the price of oil going above $30 a bar-
rel. And you have indicated that in a percentage basis some of that
was factored into the last half of last year's inflation index. Are you
concerned that another oil shock could have deterring aspects on
our economy?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Mr. Chairman, I have been through too many
oil shocks to take them unseriously. Even if the evidence does fair-
ly conclusively indicate that the proportion of both the American
economy, and indeed the rest of the world that is dependent on oil
for energy sources, is declining, and has declined very measurably.
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The problem that I think we have is, even in its reduced status,
it is a very important element within an industrial system. And if
the price changes fairly rapidly, it has a major impact on the struc-
ture of our economy. We are all acutely aware that the inventory
levels of oil, both crude and products, in the United States has
been driven down very substantially—well below normal. Indeed,
some are joking that we need to measure the fumes to get any
measure of inventory at all these days.
And what we know about very low inventories of any commodity
is that if an untoward pressure, an unexpected pressure of demand
surges, there is no buffer. And the result is a very substantial spike
in prices with fairly substantial negative consequences to the econ-
omy. I don't forecast that, I merely recognize that the inventory
levels worldwide in the so-called commercial stocks, which are
those stocks available as a buffer to unexpected demands, are ex-
ceptionally low. And even though we are moving into a period
when the normal pressures begin to ease, we are starting from a
very low base. And the simple answer to your question is yes, I am
concerned about what is happening to oil prices.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you.
Mr. LaFalce.
Mr. LAFALCE. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
First of all, just a few observations. I think I read between the
lines, Dr. Greenspan, that you might be suggesting that we could
use more immigration in the United States in order to buttress our
work force and actually add to the body politic. That certainly is
my position. I think that what made the Buffalo, New Yorks great
at the turn of the century, and so forth, and so forth, were the huge
influx of immigrants and I think that can certainly help us in the
future too. Was I correct in reading that between the lines?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Well, I personally have always been of that per-
suasion, but I cannot speak for the Federal Open Market Commit-
tee in that regard, mainly because I have not discussed it with
them in detail. I am obviously aware, as we all are, that this is a
very difficult problem, a trade off against many other consider-
ations, and I am not arguing that economics is the sole consider-
ation here by far.
Mr. LAFALCE. Not at all. Let's talk about economics not being the
sole consideration in your future testimony too. Let's talk about so-
cioeconomic conditions and the relationship between the two—the
Federal Reserve Board, the central bank of the United States, you
are the central bank here, to a certain extent you are the central
bank of the world. We don't want to lose sight of your primary mis-
sion in life, granted, but what are the present capacities of the Fed-
eral Reserve Board, what are the present practices of the Federal
Reserve Board in data collection that could give us a better socio-
economic map or report card? I don't want you to reinvent the
wheel of what you are doing, but if I were to sit down and say, look
it, if I wanted you to give testimony on the following, could you?
On educational status, on the amount of debt per household per
person, on the amount of debt that college kids are assuming, be-
cause they must have a college education today, and what its ef-
fects are on their ability to have children, their ability to buy
homes, on their ability to live where they want to live, perhaps
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where they grew up with their families as opposed to seek new
jobs. What is this changing economic dynamic doing to pensions,
because of the portability of jobs and perhaps the non-portability?
What about health care, because so many jobs today are not per-
manent jobs, but temporary jobs or part time jobs, and so forth. If
I were to sit down with you or your economists, could you tell me
what data you collect that could, if Congress requested or if Mem-
bers requested, give us a better indication of the social condition
of America? Do we have not just one-worker families, but two or
three or four or five, because they want to or because they have
to, and so forth?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Mr. LaFalce, it is a very difficult issue you are
raising. It turns out that, because of the fairly extensive state of
knowledge about all sorts of issues by the staff of the Federal Re-
serve, because many or most come out of an academic environment
specializing in a number of issues related to economics, but which
spill over into other considerations, we do have access to a vast
amount of information. But it is from secondary sources. In other
words, we know in some detail what the Census Bureau collects,
which is extraordinary in detail for many, many different types of
issues for which they survey the American population.
Mr. LAFALCE. Do you ever gather this information together in a
way that could give me a report card on the issues that I am most
concerned about?
Mr. GREENSPAN. The answer to your question is we probably
could, but we are not the best suited to do that. What we are good
at doing in this regard is to handle, in an effective manner I should
think, other people's data. We do have our own Survey of Con-
sumer Finances in which we do collect data every several years.
Mr. LAFALCE. Do you know of any other entity, especially within
the Federal Government, that either does this or is better suited
to do it?
Mr. GREENSPAN. The Council of Economic Advisors, for example,
is also exceptionally well staffed with people who, frankly, are in
a much mere recent context, having come out of the universities.
And the types of issues that you are raising, while important, can-
not be the focus of monetary policy. Nonetheless, we are all citi-
zens, we are all very much aware of what numbers mean to various
people and they represent various things, so I would say that I
hate to impose a burden on the Council of Economic Advisors, but
unfortunately, they are very well qualified.
Mr. LAFALCE. Let me suggest this. I would like to get together
with some representative from the Federal Reserve Board and
maybe the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors and try
to devise some type of a report card. I would like your help in that.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I think you will find
Mr. LAFALCE. I think Congress needs it. I think the American
public need it. And I have yet to hear it presented to the Congress
or to the American people.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I would suggest, Mr. LaFalce, that you have
people on your staff contact us or others and we will try to find a
way to inform you on what is available, what could be done and
what can't be done.
Mr. LAFALCE. That would be great.
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Mr. GREENSPAN. Because there is a lot in the latter category as
well.
Mr. LAFALCE. That would be great. Thank you.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you.
And the Chair would like to give a resoundingly high mark to
the gentlelady from New Jersey and her report card. But please go
forth.
Mrs. ROUKEMA. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
I am not going to go into that question of immigration cap. But
I do want to discuss what I see as your report here today in the
context of some policy questions that we are going to have to be
facing as we approach the budget, tax policy and the question of
Eaying down the debt. Mr. Chairman, of course you are always pro-
>und and substantive in your analysis, and I would like to take
you on to another step.
As you remember last year, my question to you, and it was in
the context of the tax debate at that time, was the relationship be-
tween tax cuts, paying down the debt, and the economic growth
and inflation rates.
Now, I had planned this question prior to reading this morning's
New York Times article, but I am going to reference it and direct
my question in the context of statements made in this article.
It is prompted by Treasury Secretary Summers' proposal for pay-
ing off the debt by 2013.
The article is entitled "Shrinking Treasury Debt Creates an Un-
certain World." It goes right to the essence of what you are talking
about today in terms of its relationship to inflation. It may or may
not be true.
Let me just quote from the article and ask you for your response
and how you would advise the Congress in terms of both debt and
its relationship to the tax policies and balancing the budget and
the spending policies.
The reference is to last month, when Treasury outlined an ag-
gressive plan to reduce the debt and to buy back debt already in
investors' hands. At that time, this article says, "the market went
haywire."
It then goes on to say, "More important, economists and market
strategists are saying that the Treasury's plan and the ensuing
rush to long-term bonds are throwing sand into the gears that the
Fed uses to keep the economy perking while protecting against in-
flation."
Mr. Chairman, I would like your reaction to that statement. How
can we put that paying down the debt and effective monetary pol-
icy in balance? In addition, how would you advise us as we in the
Congress face the budget this year, as well as another tax bill, and
what has been a stated priority of paying down the debt?
Could you respond, please?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Indeed, I think that it is extraordinarily impor-
tant to maintain surpluses and to pay down the debt in a signifi-
cant manner.
The argument that the process itself would undermine Federal
Reserve policy is not correct. The reason it is not correct is that
while it is certainly the case that when suggestions were made of
a significant reduction in long-term maturities outstanding for
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Treasury issues, that they took on scarcity value. The prices went
up very substantially and their interest rates fell dramatically,
which would seem to be counter to the issue of maintaining an ade-
quate degree of liquidity and liquidity positioning in the market-
place.
If that had simultaneously created a major decline in long-term
interest rates or intermediate interest rates in the private sector,
then the argument would have been valid, but that indeed did not
happen.
It is the case that some very long private issues declined in yield,
but not anywhere near as much as the Treasury yield. But, the
vast proportion of private lending showed very little change in the
level of interest rates, and it is that market which we are interact-
ing with in an endeavor to get the appropriate degree of liquidity
in the system to maintain economic balance.
So it is certainly the case that there have been large gyrations
and volatility in the Treasury bond market, especially for longer
issues, but, as far as we can judge, it has had very little effect on
policies of the Federal Reserve, and it is more important to under-
stand that the only way that you can have these surpluses over the
long run is to reduce the Federal debt to the public. So it is not
as though you can have a surplus and not have debt reduction.
The only alternative would be for the Federal Government to cre-
ate assets or to purchase a lot of private assets. I don't think that
is a good alternative.
Mrs. ROUKEMA. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know my time is
up, but I am going to ask the Chairman in writing if he could then
project how far into the future and to what point we pay down the
debt over a time period. I appreciate your advice and counsel in
that aspect of it.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I would be glad to.
[Chairman Greenspan subsequently provided the following
response for the record:
Although the Federal Reserve does not make longer-
term projections on Federal debt outstanding and the time
frame over which the projected paydown would occur, the
Congressional Budget Office released on January 26 an
updated set of such projections, based on three alternative
scenarios. The projections appear in the Budget and Eco-
nomic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2001-2010, pages 19-21. A
copy of the relevant pages is attached.
[The pages referred to can be found on page 56 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mrs. Roukema.
Mr. Kanjorski.
Mr. KANJORSKI. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Greenspan, you are probably not aware of it, but I am the
new Chairman of the Greenspan Memorial in Washington, DC. We
are thinking that this upstanding economy certainly should have
your fingerprint and perhaps your silhouette somewhere in Wash-
ington.
I congratulate you, because as you may recall, maybe a decade
ago, you and I were not quite certain that your activities in mone-
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tary policy were going to afford us the opportunity of this great
growth. In 1991 or 1992, you assured me that your policies would
create an economy that would be second to none.
I think that has happened. With the budget agreement of 1993,
I think both fiscal and monetary policies working together have
really accounted for a good part of this great economy, plus, of
course, the private sector.
Mr. Greenspan, last year you told us to run the surplus, and I
thought your advice was excellent. Last week I was one of only ten
Members of Congress to oppose any tax cuts. I intend to pursue
that position until we establish a plan for Government spending
levels, paying down the national debt, and securing Medicare and
Social Security's long-term solvency, because I very fundamentally
believe that we should not get to the dessert before we have had
the entree.
Do you still hold your positions in terms of what we do with re-
duction of taxes and the surplus? And I assume from your answer
to the last colleague of mine that it is the same as last year; is that
correct?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Yes, indeed, Congressman, I still have the same
position that I reiterated here a year ago and elsewhere since then,
and I covered in some detail some of the data and some of the
issues in my prepared remarks, even though I did not use them in
my oral text.
Essentially, the issue gets down to how secure we are in these
surplus forecasts. As I tried to point out in my prepared remarks,
there are very substantial uncertainties in both directions.
It is quite conceivable that we may end up with even larger sur-
pluses than we are currently projecting. But also because we are
quite uncertain of the reasons why the ratio of tax receipts to tax-
able income in the individuals sector of the economy has been going
up so significantly, even adjusting for what we know about capital
gains and bracket creep and the like, because there is a large ele-
ment in those increased revenues which we cannot explain until we
see detailed tax reports on what has happened, which will take
several years in the so-called statistics of income tabulation tables,
we will not know how secure the forecasts are.
My argument basically is to be patient, allow the surpluses to
run as far as we can, to let debt as a consequence decline, and
then, when we have a firmer view of what proportion of the sur-
pluses, if any, are permanent, we then can create an aggregate
fund, so to speak, which would tell us the extent to which long-
term commitments could be made employing those monies.
Paying down the debt is not forever disposing of the surplus. It
is merely putting it aside, because you can always reborrow it for
whatever purposes you would want. My own judgment, as I believe
I indicated last year, and I repeat, is that delaying employing those
surpluses causes no harm of which I am aware, and awaiting the
clarification of what parts of the surpluses are secure for longer-
term calculations, I think will pay substantial dividends.
Mr. KANJORSKI. Mr. Greenspan, moving completely off that sub-
ject and to another subject, I am disturbed about high oil prices
and the impact they can have in drawing funds out of the market-
place to be used for investment. I am also concerned about unfairly
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distributing that burden on lower-income people and truckers who
are independent contractors who cannot make the adjustment.
For the third time in the last twenty-five years we have not as
a Congress addressed this idea of whether oil and gasoline should
be the basic product of our energy supply. As we move into the hy-
brid corn market and the new technologies of the 21st Century, do
you think the President or the Federal Reserve or both in conjunc-
tion should convene some discussion of the fuel cell evolution?
Should we look to the oil industry as the basic industry to feed that
energy source? Or should we be looking at hydrogen production,
since that takes us into a realm where we would control the com-
modity, as opposed to foreign control of the commodity?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Congressman, I have been through innumerable
synthetic fuels discussions, programs, and endeavors to counter
previous oil shocks.
I think our experience suggests that we ought to leave it to the
marketplace to make these judgments. I think it is doing it at this
stage. That is, as I indicated before, the weight of oil in our econ-
omy is falling fairly significantly.
My concern is not the longer term. That is pretty much locked
into the type of technological changes that are going on. I do have
short-term concerns, because of the extraordinary low level of in-
ventory at the moment.
But looking at the longer-term question, I think we are going to
find that that issue will resolve itself fairly readily, and it is not
evident to me that a specific Government program will foster that.
We have spent very considerable resources over the decades in al-
ternate means of technologies, and some have worked and some
have not worked. But the thing that has worked most effectively
is the fact that energy is being substantially—or I should say, oil—
is being significantly priced out of the market. That is, at the cur-
rent costs of crude oil in the recent ranges, it is still an expensive
commodity; and as a consequence, energy sources are moving in
the other direction, or, more importantly, are being so altered that
the amount of energy we need per unit of output is going down
very dramatically.
So I am not particularly concerned about the longer term, but I
do share a number of the concerns of your Members here about the
immediate problem.
Mr. KANJORSKI. Thank you.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Kanjorski.
Mr. Bachus.
Mr. BACHUS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Greenspan, Mr. Chairman, I mentioned in my brief opening
statement margin lending. We have just had a February 7 report
by the Federal Reserve which shows that bank lending to security
brokers and dealers was unusually strong in the final two months
of 1999.
There has been—although margin lending I think amounts to
only 1.5 percent of the total market value, in some technology
stocks, momentum stocks, it is much, much higher. Apparently it
has increased about one-third or more in the last six months of
1999.
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My question is this—and let me just throw in one other thing.
There is also some evidence that it is not individual investors as
much as it is some hedge funds and highly leveraged professional
traders. But the last two or three real market downturns have
been very much hedge funds and some of the professional traders.
So are you following this issue closely?
I know you have some concerns, but I know you said, or at least
your last statement on this was you don't intend to take any action.
Let me ask you, is this because—I know if you took action, it
might actually cause a correction and aggravate the problem. But
could you just comment on the general issue?
Mr. GREENSPAN. First of all, I want to point out that the fairly
significant rise in margin lending, as large as it was, as you point
out, is still a small part of market values.
Most stocks are bought with strictly cash or employing other
sources of funding. It is not basically coming out of the banking
system. A good deal of the recent moves in bank lending probably
are Y2K related, in part increasing liquidity, and a goodly part of
the lending that occurs is clearly for Government securities or
other forms of non-stock market-related issues.
The problem that I have had with the issue of moving on mar-
gins is not a concern of what it would do to the marketplace. It is
the evidence which suggests that it has very little impact on the
price structure of the market or anything else. It has one char-
acteristic, however. It basically has its impact, its incidence, on
smaller investors, because they have no alternative means of fi-
nancing. Large investors have all forms of financing, and margin
is a very small part of their financing.
It is true that there probably are some professional investors who
are using margin debt for purposes of various different types of
hedging or what have you. My impression is that it is probably
very small and not an issue that one should be concerned about.
Second, I view margins per se as essentially prudential, meaning
that they are set or should be set by brokers or dealers or whoever
is involved in lending to customers in order to protect the solvency
of the broker-dealership. And as a consequence of that, even
though we at the Federal Reserve stipulate initial margins, and by
implication, perhaps maintenance margins, most of the individual
brokerage firms have margins well in excess of that. So it is not
a particular problem in that regard.
Haying said all of that, I must tell you that the sharp rise in
margin debt in November, December, and January, has not gone
without awareness on the part of the Federal Reserve, because it
may be telling us things that we need to know about the overall
structure of the marketplace. We obviously are in constant discus-
sion with a number of our colleagues in the Securities and Ex-
change Commission and elsewhere to better understand what is
going on.
So, as I have said before, and I will just really repeat, we are
aware of something that appears to be somewhat different from
what we have seen. The issue that engaged us wasn't so much the
rise in margin debt. It was the rise in margin lending relative to
the value of assets. Even though it is from an extremely low base,
it has indeed accelerated. And that type of spike or type of statis-
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tical aberration invariably captures the Federal Reserve's atten-
tion, one way or the other.
Mr. BACKUS. Thank you.
Mr. Chairman, could I ask one follow-up question on what Chair-
woman Roukema said?
Chairman LEACH. Let me say this: we are going to go by this
rule, and I am going to make a caveat to it, that no further ques-
tions can be asked beyond the five-minute, but if you want to ask
a quick question for a response in writing, the Chair will accept
that.
Mr. BACKUS. Let me do that.
Mrs. Roukema talked about, with the Treasury bond, if we pay
down the debt, we eliminate a lot of the Treasury bonds. I will sub-
mit this in writing. My question is, What type of instrument do you
then use for your operations?
I will submit it in writing. Thank you.
[Chairman Greenspan's reply to Hon. Spencer Bachus can be
found on page 105 in the apppendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Thank you.
Mr. Sanders.
Mr. SANDERS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Greenspan, I have four questions that I would appreciate
you responding to.
Thirty percent of American workers earn poverty or near poverty
wages. In fact, low-wage workers in the United States are the low-
est paid low-wage workers in the industrialized world. The mini-
mum wage, as you know, is now $5.15 an hour. If it had kept pace
with inflation since 1968, it would now be $7.33 an hour.
Many of us believe it is important to protect low-wage workers
and raise the minimum wage so nobody in this country who works
forty hours a week lives in poverty.
Can you make a recommendation to Congress? In your judgment,
should the minimum wage be raised?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I do not. The reason I do not, strangely enough,
Congressman, starts off with the same premise that you did, name-
ly, that I, too, am chagrined about the extent of the dispersion of
incomes in this country and as I have said many times publicly,
you cannot have an effective society unless you have the assent of
all parties in it that the system is fair.
My concern about the minimum wage is it does not do what you
suggest it does.
Mr. SANDERS. I would respectfully suggest the evidence
Mr. GREENSPAN. I understand that. I will give you my reasons.
Mr. SANDERS. I have three other questions. You don't surprise
me by telling me that you are against the minimum wage. I apolo-
gize. I don't have a whole lot of time.
As you know, and I think agree, the United States has the most
unfair distribution of wealth and income in the industrialized
world. The richest 1 percent own 40 percent of our wealth, which
is more than the wealth owned by the bottom 95 percent of all
Americans. Meanwhile, 20 percent of our children live in poverty.
We have millions of people who are experiencing hunger. We have
some homelessness. People cannot afford health insurance and can-
not afford to send their kids to college.
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Could you briefly tell us what policies you would recommend to
Congress to do away with or to ease this disparity of wealth that
we are currently experiencing?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Let me start, Congressman, by saying what I
would not suggest. What I would not suggest is a means which
would somehow obliterate the wealth of those who are in the
upper-income groups or upper-asset groups, because there is no evi-
dence to suggest at all that if you were to take the top 20, 50, 100,
500 people and essentially eliminate all the wealth that they had,
that that would improve the standard of living of anybody. So
merely obliterating wealth or merely confiscating wealth strikes me
as a wholly inappropriate policy if the purpose is to achieve higher
standards of living.
Mr. SANDERS. Nobody is talking about obliterating or confis-
cating wealth. We are talking about fairness and the appropriate-
ness of one person having $180 billion in wealth while children go
hungry.
My next question, I noted you played an active role as Chairman
of the Federal Reserve in orchestrating a bailout of the $5 billion
hedge fund known as Long-Term Capital. You came before our
committee, and what you had to say was very interesting.
Are you concerned about such mergers as Travelers Insurance
and Citicorp when they form a company with assets of almost $700
billion, 140 times as large as Long-Term Capital? What happens if
they fail? Who in God's name is going to bail them out? Are you
concerned about that?
Mr. GREENSPAN. First of all, let me just say that we don't con-
sider that bringing in private investors into the Long-Term Capital
Management problem was a bail-out. It was their money, their in-
terest, and all we did was to offer them an office space to come
around and
Mr. SANDERS. You were very concerned about the implications of
failure.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I certainly was.
Mr. SANDERS. If you were concerned about that failure, what
about the failure of a company
Mr. GREENSPAN. We would be concerned about the failure of any
large institution.
But let me suggest further, we do not believe that in the event
that it turns out that a substantial institution fails that they
should be bailed out. In effect, what we may conclude for purposes
of stabilizing the system is that an orderly liquidation of an institu-
tion is far superior to letting it crash with all of the implications
that would occur.
That would mean, of course, that all equity owners are out; it
would mean that perhaps some debt debenture owners would also
have losses. Our notion would not be the question of perceiving
that an institution is "too big to fail" and that therefore it gets Gov-
ernment support.
Mr. SANDERS. I apologize. Let me ask you my last question. I
don't mean to be rude.
Chairman LEACH. Excuse me, Mr. Sanders. This last question
will have to be answered in writing.
Mr. SANDERS. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
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In your own Federal Reserve Report on the Survey of Consumer
Finances, if you look on page 5—the statistics on before-tax mean
family income—it shows that for all families earning less than
$100,000 a year, the mean family income went down between 1995
and 1998. That is on page 5. Meanwhile, the incomes of people
earning over $100,000 a year went up.
Given that reality, I don't know how you keep talking about a
booming economy if only the people on the top are doing quite so
well.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I hate to trash some of the data that we collect,
but that is a sample mean, and we have far superior data for the
aggregate of the mean.
Mr. SANDERS. You are criticizing your own data?
Mr. GREENSPAN. No. The problem, basically, is that these are
sample statistics. The purpose of this is the distribution, which it
is. I agree with your conclusion about the distribution. I just want-
ed to point out that the actual real median family income between
1995 and 1998 actually went up.
Mr. SANDERS. For everybody?
Mr. GREENSPAN. For everybody.
Mr. SANDERS. But not for people with $100,000 a year or less?
Mr. GREENSPAN. All I would say to you is I think the data are
accurate in the relevant sense and the conclusion that you draw I
don't find objection to.
Mr. SANDERS. OK. I am using your statistics, sir.
[Chairman Greenspan's response to Hon. Bernard Sanders can
be found on page 111 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. The gentleman's time has expired.
Mr. Castle.
Mr. CASTLE. Chairman Greenspan, I come from Delaware. We
are not exactly the Northeast. We are a mid-Atlantic State, but we
are also very dependent upon oil for heating and gasoline and
whatever. So following up on what Mr. Leach, Mr. Kanjorski, and
others have asked about oil prices, I would be interested in devel-
oping a little beyond what you have already stated. I have heard
clearly what you have stated here in your testimony about leaving
it to the marketplace. I don't disagree with that.
I would like to ask two questions along the lines of short-term
and long-term. First, when you are talking about leaving it to the
marketplace, I thought you were talking more long-term than you
were short-term. Maybe I am wrong about that, and it will take
care of itself. When you say you are concerned short-term, I don't
know if you mean you are concerned enough to deal with one of the
potential solutions which is out there or one which you might sug-
gest. And I'm not saying we should. I am just curious as to what
your opinions are, dealing with the strategic petroleum reserves,
releasing those?
The President yesterday released more of the low-income heating
assistance yesterday and suggested that Congress should approve
even more within that area, I guess in endeavoring to help the low-
income people and to some degree to keep prices down.
I am interested in your comments with respect to the short-term,
if there is anything we should do. Let me ask the other part of the
question. We can just do it together. That is longer term.
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I and you and many others have seen the problems in the 1970's
and 1990's caused by sharp rises in oil prices. We were more de-
pendent. You have indicated we are not as dependent now. I don't
know what your data is. We are clearly, by anybody's standards,
less dependent on oil now than we were then. In the longer term
we are going to be less dependent, and technology will help us take
care of that. But we are still pretty dependent.
I am not sure that I agree with the policies that the United
States has. Unfortunately, I don't have an alternative to that that
I can articulate to you, but I don't know if the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve is really a good mechanism to deal with this.
We deal with OPEC. OPEC is an oligopoly, I guess; but it is
made up of a series of countries with which we have foreign rela-
tions, and in some instances we have military relations. In some
cases we have excellent relations, and in some cases less excellent
relations.
I don't know if our trade representatives, our Secretaries of
State, our Presidents, regardless of political party in this particular
circumstance, are doing the right thing or not with respect to the
long-term oil policy, because we keep coming back to this crisis.
Frankly, it has at least been a major factor in driving two reces-
sions. I don't think it necessarily would this time, but it could; and
it sure as heck is creating a lot of havoc for constituents of ours
and yours and a lot of people in this country with respect to the
higher prices.
I am interested in that, too. In addition to the short-term ques-
tion, I am interested in the long-term question, too, are our policies
really correct, or should we be doing something more aggressively
to prevent this from becoming a crisis, even in this time of perhaps
declining dependency upon oil?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Well, Congressman, as I said before, I believe
that the long-term trends are going to gradually take care of this
problem better than anything we are able to do.
Mr. CASTLE. So our policies are satisfactory and we should
not
Mr. GREENSPAN. I will try to respond.
First of all, let me say that I have always viewed the Strategic
Petroleum Reserve as a reserve in the event of a serious crisis. By
that, I mean a shutdown in Middle East oil or something of that
nature, because of a catastrophe of some form.
I think it would be a mistake to try to move market prices by
small additions or subtractions from the Strategic Petroleum Re-
serve. We are dealing with an overall world market which is huge
relative to our Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It is foolishness to be-
lieve that we could have any significant impact short of a very
major liquidation in the short term of that reserve, and I don't
think anybody is arguing for that.
I think the way you phrase the problem is correct; there is more
to this than economics. It is a diplomatic-security question which
I think has engaged everybody.
I want to say parenthetically that while I don't deny that there
are numbers of oil producers around the world who view the short-
term price as the only thing they look at, and the higher, the bet-
ter, most of them do not. I think they recognize that their longer-
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term interest, meaning the maximum value of the reserves they
have in the ground, is fostered by a price which is generally mod-
erate from the point of view of consumers.
So I don't think that there is a significant difference of opinion
in a number of these crucial areas. I do agree with you: it is an
oligopoly. Oligopolies have the capacity to restrict supply and affect
price. They do that. OPEC does it. That is its purpose.
Fm not terribly concerned over the longer term, nor do I think
there are major changes in American policy in this regard that
really are required.
Mr. CASTLE. Thank you, Chairman Greenspan.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Castle.
Mr. Bentsen.
Mr. BENTSEN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Greenspan, I must say, from my perspective, I guess
I am a little less startled about oil prices today than I was a year
ago when they were around $10 or $12 a barrel, and $30 a barrel
at least in my neck of the woods is close to a fair price.
I would say from our perspective, we are more concerned about
long-term than the short-term, because the short-term looks pretty
good, but the long-term I think we see fluctuation in price. I think
at least people in the oil business that I talk to see this more as
a predatory or structural issue with respect to OPEC and some of
the other large producers that eventually will break and we will go
back to perhaps a glut.
It is interesting, in a discussion I had with someone from the En-
ergy Department recently, that their bigger concern is the natural
gas market, and that the decline in EMP and natural gas could
lead to a lack of stock in the medium term that could affect prices,
particularly as we expand the utilization.
I do want to talk about a couple of other things. I will just read
off the questions, and if you could get to them, that would be great.
I also would just say from your testimony, in what I read, it
would appear to me that the Fed remains vigilant toward its inter-
est rate outlook, and that at least from my perspective, it would
appear that you all are perhaps not finished with tightening.
I would like you to comment on your colleague in economics, Ste-
phen Roach's, comments. He has written a number of articles re-
cently where he is saying that perhaps we are misinterpreting pro-
ductivity numbers. Mr. LaFalce referred to them.
Second of all, if you could comment, there has been a discussion
about the Treasury market. If in fact we do pay down public debt
by 2013, what do you view as will be the store of value to replace
the Treasury for pricing purposes in the credit markets, and do you
perceive any problem with that?
And then with respect to Government spending—and this may be
more of a comment—you state that we should pay down debt before
anything else, and I agree with you on that. You then state in the
absence of that, if Congress cannot control itself, that then we
should pursue tax cuts rather than any spending increases. You
state that the reason for that, one of the large reasons for that, is
that it is easier to back away from tax cut policy if our surplus pro-
tections turn out to be wrong than open-ended spending commit-
ments.
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As you know, we are having a major debate in Congress over
what the budget baseline should be going forward and how we
should project the surplus and how that fits into the tax-and-
spending policies.
First of all, I would say this: I think if you look at Congress' ex-
perience from 1980 to 1993, when we saw a quadrupling of the na-
tional debt, a lot of that was related to tax policy implemented in
1981 that took Congress over a decade to get a handle on the debt
that was occurring.
Now, there were spending decisions made as well, but in the con-
text of that, if you look at discretionary spending, both defense and
non-defense discretionary spending, it has gone down dramatically
as a component of the Federal budget and as a percentage of the
gross domestic product. In particular, nondiscretionary spending
has declined quite dramatically over that period of time.
I guess my question is, while I know that you, from your philo-
sophical standpoint, think that most Government spending is a
drag on the economy, even though we have seen the economy per-
form quite well over these last nine years, I am not sure how your
testimony adds up, given our experience with the 1980's and trying
to dig out of this hole, which it did take many measures to do so
in reversing some tax policy, and the fact that where you have
basic functions of Government, be they defense and non-defense on
the discretionary side, where we have really seen some declines in
that area, that we should take this into consideration when we are
looking to determine what our baseline is?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Congressman, first of all, I would reach over a
much longer period, going back into the 1960's and even the 1950's.
If you take the full context of the period—and I might add, the
most recent year or two, especially the handling of the budget last
year—what that suggests to me is that the bias is far more the
problem on expenditures than on taxes. I would conclude that
while my first priority, as indicated before, is to get the debt down
and allow the surplus to run, if somebody tells me that that is po-
litically infeasible, I think we are far better off lowering taxes than
allowing new programs with long extended potential projections to
be put into place.
With respect to the first question you raise relevant to the issue
of our productivity data being distorted by the fact that a lot of peo-
ple work overtime and they don't get recorded, I wish to say that
if that is true, that is, if there are hours which are uncounted, so
to speak, and therefore output per hour is being overestimated as
a consequence, you would also get a far lower level of compensation
per hour, and indeed, if there is any significant change in the pro-
ductivity data, there must be exactly the same change in average
hourly compensation.
And we have independent estimates of that which suggest that
there is very little range in which the real hourly compensation
could have changed, and as a consequence of that, I find the notion
of a real bias as a result of underestimating hours most unlikely.
On the Treasury issue question, I would merely say that mone-
tary policy can be run in a number of different ways, and I don't
perceive this as an imminent problem in any respect whatever.
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Clearly, if we had to, we could invest in private securities or quasi-
private securities.
Mr. BENTSEN. That was not my question. My time is up, but if
you could answer for the record, what I am more interested in is
today most private debt and other types of public debt is priced off
of intermediate and long-term Treasury debt.
Now, in the event that there is no public Treasury debt, what re-
places that in the marketplace for pricing stability in that area? It
is not a question related to——
Mr. GREENSPAN. There will emerge benchmark private issues
which will be created by the marketplace and fulfilled substantially
by individuals or companies who will find, for example, the ability
to create triple A-plus private issues. And if there is a market defi-
ciency in that regard, it will become profitable for numbers of peo-
ple in the financial industry to supply it. I have no question what-
ever that that will occur if we significantly reduce the total debt
to the public.
Mr. BENTSEN. Thank you.
Chairman LEACH. Mr. Royce.
Mr. ROYCE. Thank you.
Mr. Chairman, actually, marginal rate reduction, the rated tax
reduction as a result of that, the total revenues doubled between
1980 and 1990. As I recall, it was Congress increasing spending by
2.3 times that brought about the increase in the deficits. The
spending was going up faster than the revenue increase. I think
that would argue for your point.
But I want to ask you about one of your arguments about the
movement from non-market economies to market economies, this
evolution of free enterprise around the world and open market ac-
cess that you argue is leading to keeping inflation in check by cre-
ating competitive cost pressures and also that you argue is leading
to greater productivity by a more effective application of assets to
more productive uses.
We have a decision to make here in the Congress in terms of cer-
tain trade bills: the Africa trade bill, the Caribbean Basin Initia-
tive, whether or not we have China move into the World Trade Or-
ganization.
My question is, What would be the effect of these initiatives on
economic growth in the United States, in your opinion, and what
would be the effect on net job gains or losses in the United States
if we go down this road of continued trade liberalization?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Trade liberalization in my judgment, Congress-
man, has been a significant net positive for the American economy
and the American standard of living, for all the reasons you sug-
gest.
I have never argued that it is a job-creating program. I don't
think that is what the purpose of trade is. The purpose of trade is
to create a competitive environment which improves productivity
and induces lower costs of goods to consumers. There should be no
significant employment effect one way or the other, or at least that
is what most academic evaluations have concluded.
The effect on real growth and on standards of living around the
world is unquestionably very significant, and I would argue very
strenuously that the more that we in this country can do to be the
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leader in enhancing free trade, as we have been since the end of
World War II, the better it will be for the United States and all
of our trading partners.
Mr. ROYCE. Let me ask you two other questions: What Govern-
ment policy is the biggest impediment to continued economic ex-
pansion, in your view? And second, as you know, productivity
growth is an important element of the GDP forecast that Congress
gets from the Administration and from the Congressional Budget
Office.
These forecasts suggest that the rate of productivity growth, ac-
cording to them, is expected to fall from 3 percent per year to V/2.
to 2 percent per year as we move out toward 2005.
Based on what you know, is this a reasonable assumption on the
part of the Administration and the Congressional Budget Office, or
are they being unduly pessimistic here?
You have spoken of accelerating rates of growth, and this would
be counterintuitive. What they are giving us here is a forecast that
is very pessimistic only compared to that.
Mr. GREENSPAN. With respect to your last question, as I say in
my prepared remarks, I raise the possibility that there is a much
wider range of potential productivity gains than is implicit in the
average forecasts, because the average forecasts all look the same.
The trouble is that each one of them has a wide potential range;
but all they publish is the average, so what we see is that each
forecast looks very close to the other. So I think we have to be pre-
pared for the fact that we may get a fairly broader range.
Having said that, I don't think, from the point of view of an aver-
age forecast, that either the CBO or OMB forecasts are particularly
inappropriate.
Mr. ROYCE. They might have been prudent conservatism?
Mr. GREENSPAN. They might. Or, they might also prove accurate
or too high. That is a long projection period, and there is a substan-
tial uncertainty there. But more important is not so much the fore-
cast of productivity, but the issue I raised before, namely, translat-
ing the behavior of economy into revenues. That is where the real
issue is.
With respect to the issue of impediments to the continued expan-
sion, I am sure there are a lot of them, but you know something?
I am inclined to answer the question in a different context in that
what we have observed in the last fifteen or twenty years, is a
major move toward free market economies in the world and espe-
cially in the United States. There has been a major move toward
deregulation, and we have unbound a lot of Government impedi-
ments. This has been true irrespective of which party has been in
power.
So rather than look at the issue of what remains to be done, I
think it is important for us to recognize that what has been done
is really very impressive. The fact that we have heard very little
about it is that it has been noncontroversial. The trouble with non-
controversial issues, as important as they are, is that you never
hear them discussed.
Mr. ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Royce.
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Mr. Sherman.
Mr. SHERMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Chairman, I would ask—and you may have done this before-
hand—that we may have five days to submit questions for the
record and ask the Chairman and his staff to answer those for the
record.
Chairman LEACH. Without objection, that request is granted.
Mr. SHERMAN. Thank you.
Mr. Chairman, in the limited amount of time, I don't have a
chance to ask the questions orally that I would like to, and in the
written questions I will ask about the oil price rise and whether
that is a reason to tighten monetary policy, because it is inflation-
ary, or to loosen that because the oil price rise is such a drag on
economic expansion. I will ask about the trade deficit.
I will ask whether a deficit hawk like Chairman Greenspan
would advocate, even though he does not want us to spend money,
perhaps spending $100 million or so more on gathering economic
statistics and getting those out sooner.
It is ridiculous in this Information Age that we don't know why
we have a revenue increase and won't know for several more years,
and certainly his advocacy for his advocacy on spending more and
getting statistics out quicker would be useful.
I will also ask about whether we should take into account in our
monetary policy the fact that lower interest rates in the United
States could lead to stability in Russia, whose nuclear weapons
may pose a greater threat to us than all of the economics that we
are talking about here today.
I agree with Chairman Greenspan, that we are just on the begin-
ning of a wave of increase in private technology. The issues before
us are, first, how we can avoid screwing that up, but second, how
we allocate those benefits.
One economic standard that I would propose is the Joe Hill
standard, that is, whether a person with a high school education,
perhaps one or two years beyond that, can support a family in forty
hours of work. By that standard, we may not be as well off today
as we were thirty-five years ago.
We have with us here today elements of the huge and expanding
business news industry that is aimed as those who have capital.
Those reports have seeped into our consciousness. They always go
something like this: wages are up, that is bad; unemployment is
down, that is bad; immigration will help keep labor costs down, so
immigration is good.
It is not surprising that media aimed at those with capital fo-
cuses on those conclusions. What is of concern is that that kind of
thinking seeps into the pores of decisionmakers, both the Fed and
in Congress.
My constituents tend to think that the whole purpose of the
study of economics is to raise wages. That is what my constituents
rely on. In fact, they are bemused that when they do tune into eco-
nomic discussions, higher labor costs are thought to be a bad thing.
Mr. Chairman, you commented on the fact that it is possible in
the future that labor costs will rise more quickly than productivity,
and this would squeeze profits; and you implied that, therefore, it
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would be a bad thing. Yet in your testimony you talk about the
wealth effect.
I would say that if profits were to go down and wages were to
go up, if anything, you would have a decline in demand, because
the wealth effect would not apply to working people the way it does
now, a slight increase in the profits of a corporation leading to a
huge increase in the stock of that corporation, leading to the own-
ers of that corporation being able to spend more.
The question that I would like you to answer is what fiscal pol-
icy, what congressional policy, what immigration policy could we
adopt if the whole purpose of our policy were to have higher wages
for working families?
Mr. GREENSPAN. First of all, I look forward to answering the pre-
vious questions in writing.
Our goal shouldn't be higher wages; it should be higher real
wages, that is, wages adjusted for purchasing power.
Mr. SHERMAN. That is my question.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Our specific goal, as we have enunciated before
this committee on many occasions, is maximum sustainable eco-
nomic growth. That means maximum sustainable real wages. So
our concern is not that wages go up; our concern is if wages go up
more than productivity it will create an inflationary imbalance
which undercuts the economy and the ability of real wages to grow.
So, while I certainly agree with you, much of the rhetoric which
is employed in a number of discussions is a little loose on this ques-
tion, because clearly it would be a mistake to view the issue of
lower wages per se as being of value. It cannot be the case if our
goal is maximum sustainable economic growth.
So, I would suggest to you that an appropriate monetary policy
which endeavors to contain inflation and thereby maximize eco-
nomic growth is wholly consistent with the maximum sustainable
real wage growth, as well.
Mr. SHERMAN. I may have misstated my question. I realize we
have to go on. But perhaps for the record you will be able to ex-
plain not only how we can adopt policies that give us the maximum
real sustainable economic growth, but how we allocate the fruits of
that growth to working families, as opposed to seeing what appears
to be the bulk of those fruits go to those with capital and with
stock ownership.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Shall I answer that in written form?
Mr. SHERMAN. Unless the Chairman
Chairman LEACH. It would be preferable.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I will be glad to.
[Chairman Greenspan's written response to the question from
Hon. Brad Sherman can be found on page 112 in the appendix.]
Chairman LEACH. Dr. Paul.
Dr. PAUL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Good morning, Mr. Greenspan. I understand that you did not
take my friendly advice last fall. I thought maybe you should look
for other employment, but I see you have kept your job.
I am pleased to see you back, because at least you remember the
days of sound money, and you have some respect for it. Even
though you do describe it as nostalgia, you do remember the days
of sound money. So I am pleased to have you here.
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Of course, my concern for your welfare is that you might have
to withstand some pummeling this coming year or two when the
correction comes, because of all the inflation that we have under-
gone here in the last several years.
But I, too, like another Member of this committee, believe there
is some unfairness in the system, that some benefit and others suf-
fer. Of course, his solutions would be a lot different than mine, but
I think a characteristic of paper money, of fiat money, is that some
benefit and others lose.
A good example of this is how Wall Street benefits. Certainly
Wall Street is doing very well. Just the other day, I had one of my
shrimpers in my district call me and say he is tying up his boat.
His oil prices have more than doubled and he cannot afford it, so
for now he will have to close down shop. So he suffers more than
the person on Wall Street. So it is an unfair system.
This unfairness is not unusual. This characteristic is well-known,
that when you destroy and debase a currency, some people will suf-
fer more than others. We have concentrated here a lot today on
prices. You talk a lot about the price of labor. Yet, that is not the
inflation, according to sound money economics.
The concern the sound money economist has is for the supply of
money. If you increase the supply of money, you have inflation.
Just because you are able to maintain a price level of a certa'n
level, because of technology or for some other reason, this should
not be reassurance, because we still can have our mal-investment,
our excessive debt and borrowing. It might contribute even to the
margin debt and these various things.
So I think we should concentrate, especially since we are dealing
with monetary policy, more on monetary policy and what we are
doing with the money.
It was suggested here that maybe you are running a policy that
is too tight. Well, I would have to take exception to that, because
it has been far from tight. I think that we have had tremendous
growth in money. The last three months of last year might be his-
toric highs for the increase of Federal Reserve credit. In the last
three months, the Federal Reserve credit was increasing at a rate
of 74 percent at an annual rate.
It is true, a lot of that has been withdrawn already, but this
credit that was created at that time also influenced M3, and M3
during that period of time grew significantly, not quite as fast as
the credit itself, but M3 was rising at a 17 percent annual rate.
Now, since that time, a lot of the credit has been withdrawn, but
I have not seen any significant decrease in M3. I wanted to refer
to this chart that the Federal Reserve prepared on M3 for the past
three years. It sets the targets. For three years, you have never
been once in the target range.
If I set my targets and performed like that as a physician, my
patient would die. This would be big trouble in medicine, but here
it does not seem to bother anybody. And if you extrapolate and look
at the targets set in 1997 and carry that set of targets all the way
out, you only missed M3 by $690 billion, just a small amount of
extra money that came into circulation. But I think it is harmful.
I know Wall Street likes it and the economy likes it when the bub-
ble is getting bigger, but my concern is what is going to happen
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when this bubble bursts? I think it will, unless you can reassure
me.
But the one specific question I have is will M3 shrink? Is that
a goal of yours, to shrink M3, or is it only to withdraw some of that
credit that you injected through the noncrisis of Y2K?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Let me suggest to you that the monetary aggre-
gates as we measure them are getting increasingly complex and
difficult to integrate into a set of forecasts.
The problem we have is not that money is unimportant, but how
we define it. By definition, all prices are indeed the ratio of ex-
change of a good for money. And what we seek is what that is. Our
problem is, we used Ml at one point as the proxy for money, and
it turned out to be very difficult as an indicator of any financial
state. We then went to M2 and had a similar problem. We have
never done it with M3 per se, because it largely reflects the extent
of the expansion of the banking industry, and when, in effect,
banks expand, in and of itself it doesn't tell you terribly much
about what the real money is.
So our problem is not that we do not believe in sound money; we
do. We very much believe that if you have a debased currency that
you will have a debased economy. The difficulty is in defining what
part of our liquidity structure is truly money. We have had trouble
ferreting out proxies for that for a number of years. And the stand-
ard we employ is whether it gives us a good forward indicator of
the direction of finance and the economy. Regrettably none of those
that we have been able to develop, including MZM, have done that.
That does not mean that we think that money is irrelevant; it
means that we think that our measures of money have been inad-
equate and as a consequence of that we, as I have mentioned pre-
viously, have downgraded the use of the monetary aggregates for
monetary policy purposes until we are able to find a more stable
proxy for what we believe is the underlying money in the economy.
Dr. PAUL. So it is hard to manage something you can't define.
Mr. GREENSPAN. It is not possible to manage something you can-
not define.
Chairman LEACH. Is the gentleman finished?
Dr. PAUL. Yes.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you very much, Dr. Paul.
Mr. Watt.
Mr. WATT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Greenspan, it is good to see you again. I always have
to reiterate my constant state of confusion about the matters that
you testify about probably a lot more, because I just don't under-
stand the language that by and large you are communicating in
and because of any problem that you are having with it is just my
own problem. But that is not unusual.
You cautioned, Chairman Greenspan, in the last bit of your oral
presentation about bouts of euphoria and disillusionment. I confess
that to some extent I found your presentation, the first part, pretty
disillusioning and the second part, at a minimum, optimistic, if not
euphoric. So it may be that what is happening with the human ex-
pectations taking a cue from that kind of dichotomy that you seem
to be projecting. The question I wanted to ask, though, and I am
sure you are always reluctant to comment on the stock market, but
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when you talk about the wealth effect, I take it that the primary
aspect of that is the buying of and bidding up of stock. And I am
wondering whether the approximately 9 to 10 percent correction
that has taken place in the market during the first month or so of
this year in any way reassures you or leads you to believe that
maybe that wealth effect may be beginning to diminish some.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Congressman, I think you are quite correct that
I have been and will continue to be reluctant to answer questions
of that sort. Let me just say
Mr. WATT. Does that mean that I am not going to get an answer
to that? Go ahead.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I guess that is right. Let me add, however, that
the wealth effect is a much broader issue than strictly stocks. For
example, it is certainly the case that stock prices move around fair-
ly quickly. But a not insignificant part of the wealth effect is com-
ing out of housing. We estimated roughly about a sixth of it. And
the reason is that the average turnover of a home is about nine
years. So even though annual percentage changes may not be all
that large, with the increase in values over a nine-year period, you
begin to pick up some fairly substantial capital gains, so that upon
the sale of the house there is a fairly large capital gain that comes
out of the transaction which is unencumbered by debt to the seller
after the down payment on the next home, which means there is
a substantial amount of liquidity which we estimate is about a
sixth of the total wealth effect.
Mr. WATT. What are the other components to the wealth effect?
You have housing, you have stock values, what are the other fac-
tors?
Mr. GREENSPAN. If fact, what we actually measure the wealth ef-
fect by is the ratio of household wealth to household income. And
so we don't get a wealth effect if the aggregate assets of the house-
hold go up about the same amount as income. It is only over and
above that do we measure the so-called wealth effect. It is a defini-
tion that we employ which gives us the ability to separate the ef-
fects of income on consumption and wealth change.
Mr. WATT. You talked about housing being one-sixth of that
wealth effect has occurred. What are some of the other components
of it?
Mr. GREENSPAN. The main other component is equities. But
there are debt instruments which could be part of it. Obviously any
instrument whose market value doesn't change is not particularly
relevant. For example, a savings deposit, whose value doesn't
change, a short term bond whose value changes very, very little,
is in the net assets of households, but it rarely has any impact that
we consider a wealth effect.
Mr. WATT. I appreciate your not answering the other part of my
question. I am sure the stock market appreciates it even more.
They probably don't want you to answer that question either.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Watt.
Mr. WATT. I yield back.
Chairman LEACH. Mr. Hill.
Mr. HILL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Greenspan, thank you very much for being here. In
reading your testimony and the report that you gave to Congress
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basically I would summarize it by saying that it is your intention
to continue to raise interest rates until the aggregate demand is
more in line with the output of the economy, is that a correct sum-
mation?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I tried to phrase exactly what we meant in the
words that are in the testimony. And I choose not to go any fur-
ther.
Mr. HILL. Part of aggregate demand is Government spending, is
that right?
Mr. GREENSPAN. That is correct.
Mr. HILL. So an important part of the effort to get aggregate de-
mand back in line with output is to continue the constraints on the
rate of growth of Government spending; you agree with that?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Yes.
Mr. HILL. And an earlier question was asked you of whether or
not your position has changed with regard to what ought to be
done with surpluses. I believe you stated no, that position hadn't
changed. I just want to clarify for the record what that position is
because it is in your testimony. And in it you said that "I recognize
that growing budget surpluses may be politically infeasible to de-
fend. If this proves to be the case, as I have testified previously,
the likelihood of maintaining a still satisfactory overall budget posi-
tion over the long run is greater, I believe, if surpluses are used
to lower tax rates rather than to embark on new spending pro-
grams."
It continues to be your position that the choice is between in-
creasing spending or reducing taxes with surpluses. You believe
lowering taxes would be better for the economy.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I do, Congressman.
Mr. HlLL. And there is a difference between projected surpluses
and I think you have testified that we shouldn't be doing anything
with surpluses we don't know we are going to realize, which are
protected.
Mr. GREENSPAN. We should not make long-term commitments to
surpluses we don't feel secure about.
Mr. HILL. But on the alternative there are surpluses, that this
year's budget we know fairly well that we are going to have a $20-
some billion surplus in the fiscal year we are in now and I think
reasonably accurately can project that we are going do have a sig-
nificant surplus in the next fiscal year, the budget we are working
on now. Would you say it is appropriate that we can make deci-
sions with regard to that, the three decisions being pay down the
debt, reduce taxes or additional spending?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I would say it applies both to the short term
and the long term.
Mr. HILL. One last question and that is with respect to the situa-
tion in Japan, there are some indications that Japan has experi-
enced its second quarter of negative economic growth. That is an
economic term, negative economic growth. Should that concern us
with regard to how the economy in Japan might impact aggregate
demand in the United States?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Well, it is certainly the case that early indica-
tions of fourth quarter GDP in Japan are negative, at least accord-
ing to the people who produce the data. And they are usually a
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good source for that sort of thing. I believe they publish their figure
on March 10th or some time earlier in March, so the official figure
is not yet out. There are some conflicting data, however, about the
extent of weakness in the Japanese economy in the sense that their
GDP to be sure is negative, but their industrial production is not,
at least not as negative. As a result of this, it is not terribly clear
how one should characterize the period they are going through. It
is a sluggish period. It is one in which they are struggling to work
their way through the huge overhang that has occurred in the
economy following the collapse of the real estate and equity bubbles
of 1990, which has worked through the financial system and cre-
ated very considerable havoc, because the collateral that was used
in the banking system has gone down well over 50 percent and that
has created a huge backing up of non-performing loans and the
credit system has been in serious trouble. They are gradually work-
ing out of that, and working very hard at it I might add. And there
is evidence to suggest that they are coming out of this. I would not
characterize what has occurred at this stage as falling back into re-
cession, but there is no question that they are struggling.
Mr. HILL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Hill.
Mr. Moore.
Mr. MOORE. Chairman Greenspan, last year, July 22 of last year,
you testified to this committee, "If I was asked what our first prior-
ity should be, it would be to let the surplus run and reduce the
Federal "debt. If I was asked what my second priority is, it would
be to cut taxes rather than expand spending." And essentially you
have reiterated that today, maybe in a little different words. And
this is not a direct quote, but I think you said something to the ef-
fect, "be patient, let the surpluses run and let surplus run and let
debt decline."
Is that essentially correct, Mr. Chairman?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Yes, Congressman.
Mr. MOORE. Shortly after your testimony in July of last year,
Chairman Greenspan, Congress passed a $792 billion tax cut which
was subsequently vetoed by President Clinton. This year, just last
week in fact, the House passed about a $180 billion marriage pen-
alty tax relief bill. And it appears, and this is not clear yet, with
we don't have a budget resolution, but it appears that maybe the
intention of the Majority party is to bring out one tax cut bill at
a time for passage, and I don't know what their intention is as to
a total.
The concern that I have, and I guess what I want to ask you a
question about is assuming that—and there have been proposals by
some figures on the national level and some Presidential contend-
ers that there be tax cuts totaling between $700 billion and a tril-
lion dollars. My question, Chairman Greenspan, is that consistent
with your recommendation to Congress or do you still believe that
our first priority should be to let the surplus run?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I still believe that the first priority should be to
let the surplus run. I don't want to comment on any particular pro-
posals of anybody, and I would just let the statement that I have
made stand, if I may.
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Mr. MOORE. You have heard, at least I have heard projections,
the projections for real surplus may range somewhere between
$750 billion on the conservative side and I think that figure as I
believe, as I understand it, at least is if Congress adheres to the
spending caps which we don't seem to be able to do, and if it is not
adjusted for inflation, the $750 billion surplus figure over the next
ten years, then I have heard other projections as high as $2 tril-
lion. I am sure you have heard the same projections.
Do you have a crystal ball or have you ventured any guesstimate
as to what an accurate figure might be as far as a ten-year projec-
tion, sir?
Mr. GREENSPAN. The answer is no, I do not. And I tried to ad-
dress that very specifically in my prepared remarks, trying to point
out why it is so difficult to dp so. And the major reason is not so
much the economic forecast, it is that we do not understand pre-
cisely why the revenues that we have had in the last several years
are as high as they are, or very specifically why the ratio of indi-
vidual tax revenues relative to taxable individual incomes moved
up as high as they have, even with pretty good estimates what the
capital gains tax would be and bracket creep would be.
So there is a substantial excess of revenue, the underlying cause
of which we do not yet fully understand. And we don't know wheth-
er it will continue, whatever it is, or if it is a surprise, could just
reverse, go in the other direction. And that is a large enough num-
ber to really impact very significantly on these various estimates.
And that is the reason why I think you have to be cautious about
the employment of long-term commitments of budget surpluses
when you really do not yet have any real feel as to how solid they
are.
Mr. MOORE. Would that uncertainty then cause you some con-
cern about—and not commenting on any particular tax cut pro-
posal—but tax cuts in the range of $750 billion to $1 trillion over
the next ten years?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I don't want to get involved in the specific dis-
cussion of that nature if you don't mind.
Mr. MOORE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Moore.
Mr. Ryan.
Mr. RYAN OF WISCONSIN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you for being here. Good to see you again, Mr. Chairman.
Actually I would like to follow up on my colleague from Kansas.
The difference in the surplus estimates between the Administration
and Congress is not over the revenues; it is over the spending. The
Administration will admit that they are estimating essentially a $2
trillion non-Social Security surplus. The difference is that they are
also estimating that we are going to increase spending by $1.3 tril-
lion.
Now given the fact that we have heard you consistently repeat
that the first priority ought to be debt reduction, second priority
ought to be, if that is politically infeasible, tax reduction, and the
last priority ought to be new expenditures, given the fact that we
can't operate in that policy vacuum that we have to operate here
in Congress, we have already accomplished a very historic agree-
ment, I believe, with the Administration, which is to dedicate all
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of the Social Security surplus, the $2 trillion toward debt reduction.
I think that is something that is a great accomplishment of this
Congress and this Administration.
On the non-Social Security surplus, the Administration just gave
us a budget ten days ago, which calls for increasing spending by
$1.3 trillion, specifically $800 billion increase in discretionary
spending and a $500 billion increase in mandatory spending partly
to pay for the creation of 84 new Federal spending programs. That
is what the President's budget does. So if you are to juxtapose a
$1.3 trillion spending increase over the next ten years, as the
President's budget proposes, versus say a $700- to $800-billion tax
cut, I think under your standard the tax cut may be preferable.
But I would like to ask you a question about which kind of tax
cuts. Because clearly not all tax reductions are created equal. I
would like to bring your attention to a chart over here. If we look
at the capital gains tax rate, that we have seen, and this is a fairly
simple crude chart that we had the Budget Committee put to-
gether, the capital gains tax rate over the last number of years, we
had a 28 percent tax rate, that was reduced in the 1997 tax bill
to 20 percent. But it is also interesting to note that under the most
recent IRS income data that capital gains tax revenues actually in-
creased, whereas in 1996 we had $66 billion coming in from capital
gains tax receipts; 1997, $79 billion coming in from capital gains
tax receipts; then after the rate was actually cut from 28 to 20 per-
cent for the top rate, we actually had an increase in capital gains
tax revenues to $91 billion in 1998 to a $101 billion in 1999, based
on these most recent statistics that we have from the IRS.
So given the fact that that tax reduction actually led to an in-
crease in revenues and an increase in economic activity, wouldn't
it be prudent to follow this kind of policy for the future, rather
than a new spending increase like the Administration is calling for,
and more importantly, wouldn't these kinds of tax reductions fuel
more surpluses which will give us more money to actually produce
more debt reduction?
So I would like if you could comment on that, and given the fact
that the alternative here in Washington outside of the policy vacu-
um is the President's budget which is to increase spending from
the non-Social Security surplus to the tune of $1.3 trillion.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Let me just say first that there is no question
that if you lower capital gains tax rates, as you do, then you will
unleash a good deal of potential capital gains sales or sales of cap-
ital assets and create revenues.
A goodly part of the increased revenues obviously has got to be
the rise in asset values that has occurred as a consequence of all
of that.
There is the notion that certain cuts in taxes can engender in-
come increases and tax revenues which make them engender more
revenues than existed before. In other words, you would cut taxes
and get higher revenues, but obviously there has got to be a limit
to that and indeed we don't know where we are in the curve, be-
cause if you continue to cut taxes, revenues cannot continue to in-
crease, because at one point you are going to get to a zero tax rate,
and you won't get any revenues. So the issue cannot be a general
statement.
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The broad notion, however, that there are certain tax cuts which
engender revenues and economic activity better than others I
would certainly agree with. And as I say in my prepared remarks,
I am a strong supporter of cuts in marginal tax rates as a vehicle
for increasing economic activity. I think, however, in today's con-
text that that is better served by reducing the debt and getting a
lower cost of capital to create the same process. But I would readily
acknowledge that on other occasions tax cuts would be superior to
reducing the debt. I don't believe that is the case now, but I do
think it is clearly feasible at other times.
Mr. RYAN OF WISCONSIN. I am interested that you mentioned the
curve. I don't know if you are mentioning the Laffer curve or not.
We may be in the prohibitive range right now. But given the fact
that rates surged after the last capital gains tax cut and the capital
gains tax cut before then, do you believe that we are still in a pro-
hibitive range on the tax curve subject to capital gains so that if
we do continue to cut capital gains taxes such as last year's tax bill
did by 2 percentage points or simply index the capital gains tax,
that we would actually extract more revenues?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I don't know the answer to that. And one of the
reasons I don't know the answer is we don't actually have data for
1999 yet. Those are estimates.
Mr. RYAN OF WISCONSIN. These are preliminary.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Not even preliminary, they are rough estimates
which could be significantly off. So I don't think we have the evi-
dence of this at this particular stage.
Mr. RYAN OF WISCONSIN. If I could ask one quick question, if we
have a choice here in Congress, one choice, increase spending by
$1.3 trillion out of a non-Social Security surplus as the President
is proposing, or to add more money to debt reduction, say $300 bil-
lion in debt reduction and let's say just for sake of argument a tril-
lion dollar tax cut, would you choose more debt reduction and tax
reduction versus the President's call to increase spending by $1.3
trillion?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I would find a way not to answer the question.
Mr. RYAN OF WISCONSIN. Thank you very much. That is all I
have, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. Thank you, Mr. Ryan.
Mr. Inslee.
Mr. INSLEE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I would like to share some good news along with yours, which
we appreciate hearing from you, and that is that I really think the
American people are with you on this issue of giving debt reduction
the highest priority. I just want to report to you I think we had
a real good test of this last fall when there was a proposal by some
in Congress that in fact would have ripped the heart out of our
ability to maintain those surpluses to reduce the Federal deficit. I
just want to report to you that that proposal which would have pre-
vented us from paying down the debt was rejected in the East and
the Midwest and the Rockies and the West Coast and certainly in
my neighborhood, my neck of the woods, because people really do
get this on Main Street. They understand that this has the virtue
of reducing our interest obligations, and it is not something lost on
them.
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So, I just want to share that good news with you that people
this argument that you are prevailing and I hope that we will
low in that regard.
I would like you, if you can, you made an interesting comment
in your written testimony, I don't know if you talked about it this
morning, about really maybe in a sense questioning whether we
really have a unified surplus today if you look at it from an accrual
basis. And I wonder if you could just describe to us what you mean
by that, how should we look at this surplus issue from an accrual
basis?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I didn't cover this issue in my oral remarks, but
I have in my written remarks. The agreement that has been fairly
quick and fairly impressive by the Congress and the Administra-
tion to take the Social Security surplus off-budget, I think is a re-
markably wise judgment. We may bicker on the margins of a lot
of different programs, whether it is tax or spending or what have
you, but the judgment to agree on taking that off the budget was
really an extraordinary decision which is going to have very posi-
tive consequences, in my judgment, for years to come.
So, I would just basically say that we are making progress in this
area.
Mr. INSLEE. We appreciate that. Let me allude if I can, switching
g;ears a bit, one of my constituents has been referred to several
times in the testimony today, and that is the wealthiest person on
earth who happens to live in my district, who got there due to in-
credible creativity and now is becoming the most prolific philan-
thropist in world history, which we also appreciate. But there is
another side of some constituents I represent. I go to one side of
a lake in my district and I find some incredibly economically effec-
tive people, I go to another side of the lake in my district and I
recently visited a food bank where I met a whole bunch of folks
who were working hard, had full time plus jobs, and were coming
into the food bank to get food literally to feed their children.
And I think they would want me to ask this question of you, is
there something, something structurally going on where some
working people, people who are in fact hard working, dedicated, get
up in the morning, go to work kind of folks are not realizing the
productivity gains that in fact are being realized? Is there some-
thing going on structurally in our economy where we are not allow-
ing these working people to get the fruits of their productivity in-
creases? Because I think by all measure we are finding some ex-
traordinary increases in productivity, largely because of the tech-
nology that is being developed, much of it in my district.
But I guess the question I have for you, is there something going
on that we need to be concerned about that we are not allowing
those working people to capture some of those benefits associated
with their productivity increases? If so, what are they? Tell me
your genus on how we move ahead on that front.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I think one of the problems that we have is that
as you move towards, first, an increasingly concept-based economy,
as we have for generations, where an increasing proportion of the
GDP is more value-created through ideas rather than physical
brawn or materials or physical things. That has been the long-term
trend. Second, superimposed on that has been the really dramatic
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synergies of these numbers of technologies which have been so ex-
traordinary in the last decade, I guess even longer than that, but
not much.
The consequence of this, until very recently—the last two or
three years— has been an opening up or dispersion of incomes in
the country which reflects the degree of education. The so-called
college premium in the market has opened up and the premium of
high school versus those with less than high school education has
opened up. And it is part of the problem. It strikes me that the so-
lution is education, to find means by which you can increase the
education capacity of individuals so that they can share in the
fruits of what is an increasingly conceptual high tech economy.
That doesn't mean that everyone has to be a computer programmer
or a nuclear physicist or whatever, but you have to be in a position
where you are part of that overall structure and everyone can be.
And that is, I think, the challenge: that we have to create an edu-
cational system which enables people coming out of high school or
college to move into productive activities in those particular areas.
If we can't do that, I don't think we are going to solve the prob-
lem which you put on the table.
Mr. INSLEE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will relate your answer
to my eighth grader when he works on algebra next week.
Mr. GREENSPAN. It will be helpful.
Chairman LEACH. Mr. Ose.
Mr. OSE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Greenspan, I note on page 10 of your written testimony your
comments about factoring in the unified budget on an accrual basis
as it relates to the revenues flowing in. And if we did that account-
ing for the obligation, the future obligations of Social Security, we
would be arguably in a deficit as opposed to a surplus. We in Con-
gress have spent a lot of time talking about paying down the pub-
licly-held debt. And I notice in your other locations in your written
testimony a difference, very subtle, in some of your comments
about debt versus public debt.
Now, we have engaged in a long discussion here about paying
down the publicly-held debt, those of us on this side of the testi-
mony table. Your comments are inescapable in terms of actually re-
tiring debt, rather than substituting one creditor for another. And
I would appreciate any comments you might have as it relates to
substituting in this discussion about paying down the publicly-held
debt, substituting, for instance, members of the general public as
the creditor in lieu of say the Social Security Trust Fund. I don't
happen to believe to the extent that we are using Social Security
Trust Funds to buy T bills and T notes that we are having an ap-
preciable long term impact on the overall claim on the U.S. Treas-
ury. I understand the short term consequence in the financial mar-
kets from a crown-out effect, but I would be curious about your re-
marks in this regard otherwise.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I think that what we have to be aware of is we
have differing types of accounting systems which serve different
purposes. We have moved from the unified budget to an on-budget
system by effectively agreeing that the Social Security Trust Fund
is off-budget. On-budget is a good way toward a full accrual system
which is the norm in the private sector. The appropriate accounting
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for an accrual system would have receipts generally as they are,
outlays would be accrued outlays, where when the credit was
earned in Social Security, it gets recorded at that time. It shows
up not in the debt to the public or even in the public debt which
is a different issue, it shows up as a contingent liability. So that
if you look at the Government's balance sheet in this accrual sense,
you end up with debt to the public and contingent liabilities.
To the extent that we have moved from a unified budget to on-
budget, we have moved toward the accrual system. The reason it
is important is that if you go beyond the year 2030, when we are
still building up the Social Security Trust Fund, depending on
which assumptions you make, certainly when we get out to mid-
century we are getting into a huge deficit on the unified basis. And
what an accrual system would do is fully recognize the very much
longer term so that commitments would be made and funded for
an accrual system at the time they are made in precisely the same
manner as a private insurance system does.
So, the point that I raised within my testimony was merely not
to argue that we should go to an accrual system right.now—I don't
think we can—but we should recognize that when we are talking
about paying off the debt, we are talking about paying off the debt
to the public, but contingent liabilities are still rising. And in one
sense unless the Congress repudiates those obligations—which we
have never done and nobody believes we will ever do, which is one
of the reasons we have the credit in this country that we have—
we will have a very substantial amount of liability as the decades
go on.
So, I do think it is important to keep in context that these types
of budgets have different uses. From an economist's point of view,
the unified budget is what we find the most useful, because it tells
us exactly what is happening to the cash flow of the Government.
And as you know, if you run a unified surplus, which is solely from
the Social Security Trust Fund, we will be reducing the debt by
that amount. And that is very important to the economic structure
of the economy. On-budget is a more useful budget for purposes of
forward planning for Government revenues. The accrual system is
to carry the on-budget still further to completion.
Mr. OSE. I want to thank the Chairman for that very clear expla-
nation. I got it, and I do appreciate it. Because it is a point that
is lost amongst the many of us on this side of the aisle, or this side
of the table, excuse me. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. Well, thank you, Mr. Ose.
Mrs. Biggert.
Mrs. BlGGERT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Greenspan, on page 2 of your remarks you talk about the
sharp rise in the amount of consumer outlays relative to disposable
income and the corresponding fall in consumer savings. And I
think the latest reports show that personal savings rate continues
to decline and it has fallen from 8.7 percent in 1992 to 2.4 last
year. And I would like just to know what effect this can have on
our economy. Will the worsening of the savings rate sidetrack our
current economic expansion at all? And I wonder if you could com-
ment on what we need to do to spur increased saving rates. And
is there something within the Government such as tax incentives
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that would help to do this. I remember back in the Reagan days
we had the All Savers Accounts that seemed to be very popular
that people put money in and didn't have to pay the interest rates
on them, that certainly savings accounts they do now.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Congresswoman, the savings rate has gone
down basically, because individuals perceive that they have pur-
chasing power beyond their disposable incomes, which is capital
gains, unrealized capital gains very specifically against which they
borrow. Because they perceive it as real wealth, it may go down
some, but it is not going to go to zero. So they borrow against it
or capitalize it in one form or another.
What that means statistically is the consumption that they make
out of those capital gains is included in the aggregate consumption
figure we have and lowers our measure of savings out of income.
We have to be a little careful here, because if you ask the aver-
age person in that context have you lowered your savings rate, they
will say no. We are in fact spending the same proportion of our re-
sources that we have always spent. And we have saved some. So
the problem is this tricky accounting issue of how to account for
the amount of consumption which doesn't relate to income. In part
it is also an issue of the fact that in disposable income, there are
capital gains taxes. As you know, capital gains are not included in
income, but the taxes are. And as a consequence disposable per-
sonal income from which you subtract consumption to get savings
is reduced still further.
And so I am not concerned about the level of published savings.
It is in large part being offset by a marked increase in Government
savings to finance the capital investments that we need. I do think,
however, as we get down the road, as we get beyond this big bulge
in wealth and we get back to more normal rates in a lot of these
relationships, that we ought to relook at the issues that you raised;
namely, to maintain incentives to save. And I think that we should
do that now, but we have to recognize that the results are very sig-
nificantly being distorted by these very large changes in wealth
that we have seen in recent years.
Mrs. BIGGERT. Are you concerned about, for example, the high
tech companies that have come into existence and their rapid
growth at the time and then those capital gains could disappear
very shortly if that
Mr. GREENSPAN. Oh, I assume there are going to be a lot of ups
and downs in some of these companies. There is one very famous
one which everyone now likes to cite. It was a brochure for an IPO
that came out in which the company said, "We don't produce any-
thing, we don't do anything," and they sold their stock.
Mrs. BIGGERT. Thank you very much.
Chairman LEACH. It wasn't called the Federal Reserve.
Mr. Toomey.
Mr. TOOMEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
And thank you, Chairman Greenspan, for your patience this
morning. I have to ask to indulge your patience for one last ques-
tion about the fiscal year 2000 budget surplus, but I can assure you
that it will indeed be the final question, if only because I am the
last person to be asking questions this morning. And I will try to
be brief.
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As we discussed earlier, there is a reasonably high degree of cer-
tainty now that for fiscal year 2000, anyway, we have a budget sur-
Elus that will be fairly substantial considering last year's spending
jvels. I am very concerned that the forces for ever-greater spend-
ing in this town are well underway in an attempt to spend much,
if not all, of this $23 billion. I think it would be a terrible precedent
to do that with this surplus. I frankly think we already spent too
much money last year in the appropriation bills that were signed
into law. And I am very concerned that by adding now to fiscal
year 2000 spending, we decrease future surpluses because spending
tends to grow, always as a function of the previous year's level.
I have a bill that is designed to increase the likelihood that as
much of the fiscal year 2000 surplus as possible will go toward ei-
ther paying down public debt, lowering taxes, or in the event of a
miracle, structural reform of Social Security or Medicare, which I
doubt will take effect in fiscal year 2000. I am not asking you to
comment on my bill obviously, but is it fair to say that these are
in your judgment the right goals and that all of this surplus should
be used for some combination of those purposes?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Well, as I said previously, and just to repeat, I
do think there are very great benefits by allowing the surpluses to
run and the consequent reduction in debt occur. I also think we
have to be a little careful about this question of what we mean by
Social Security reform. When we used to talk about that years ago,
we always presumed, at least when I was Chairman of the Social
Security Commission at that time, which was almost twenty years
ago, it is remarkable, but there was a very strong notion that So-
cial Security should be a social insurance system, which meant that
benefits should be paid only out of Social Security taxes. I am not
saying that there is not an argument at this particular point about
whether in fact in these particular times general revenues should
be put in the system to finance benefits as distinct from taxes.
I would think, however, that there would be more discussion on
that issue. It is remarkably absent today from the debate as to
whether in fact we should restrict benefits only to tax receipts or
to general revenues, meaning shall taxes from non-Social Security
be applied to fund Social Security benefits.
I repeat, I am not saying that it is clear to me which argument
is good or bad, but I do think before the issue of the social insur-
ance nature of Social Security is abandoned, which is what hap-
pens if you bring general revenues onto the scene, that there at
least should be some objective discussion of the fact that it is being
done.
Mr. TOOMEY. I agree with that. I think that discussion will take
place before any such reform is likely to get enough support to ac-
tually pass. Personally I think it could very well be justified as a
transformation, as a means of providing the financing for a trans-
formation of the Social Security system to one that would be more
geared toward a personal savings system.
I did have one other question I was wondering if you would com-
ment on. And it seems to me fiscal conservatives, and I consider
myself one, have often argued against excessive Government
spending using sort of derivative arguments. In the 1980's we
talked about not being able to afford more spending because of our
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debt and our deficits, more recently we have made the point we
need to restrain spending so as not to spend Social Security monies
on other Government programs, both of which I agree with, but
both of which miss the central point of whether or not we are at
the appropriate level of Government spending itself. Now, whether
Government spending can be virtually unlimited, perhaps, if it is
not funded with deficits or from other programs.
And I was wondering if you would comment on the question of
in order to reach the goal that you described earlier of maximum
sustainable real growth, do you believe we are more likely to
achieve that level if a greater share of our GDP is in the private
sector and therefore less in the Government at all levels than the
current level; in other words, should we be moving in the direction
of lesser Government spending as a percentage of our economy?
Mr. GREENSPAN. I have always argued that particular point.
There are economists who don't agree with that. In other words, it
is very difficult analytically to make judgments as to the optimum
level of Government spending with respect to economic growth as
an example. My own view is not based on definitive econometrical
analysis, because the data just don't enable you to infer that, but
on watching the way an economy functions. How individual compa-
nies function and how Government works and how Federal funds
are dispersed and what happens to them, I have concluded, person-
ally, that the less the share of economy that goes to Government,
the better. But what I do want to emphasize is that that is not a
view which is universally held. And indeed I am not certain that
I would be representative of the center of the economics profession
by any means. But it is probably the most important broad fun-
damental issue which the Congress and the Administration has to
deal with: that is, what is the size of Government, what is the opti-
mum size to fulfill the role of Government and to maximize eco-
nomic growth. And in that regard, I think that, as I indicated be-
fore, relevant to the issue of marked trends toward deregulation of
markets, there has been in this country a very significant shift, ir-
respective of party, toward the view that the private sector is the
primary force creating economic substance and growth.
Mr. TOOMEY. Time for a quick question?
Chairman LEACH. Yes, sir.
Mr. TOOMEY. And while it may be very difficult to quantify that
precisely through an economic model, I think there is tremendous
empirical evidence if you compare the economic performances of
relatively free economies to the economic performances of relatively
unfree or less-free economies, that evidence seems to be over-
whelmingly in favor.
Mr. GREENSPAN. I think that is generally accepted in the eco-
nomics profession.
Mr. TOOMEY. Thank you.
Chairman LEACH. Well, thank you. Our final questioner has just
presented his question. I would just like to end with a kind of a
large query in terms of the role of monetary policy, and that is we
are in a period of economic growth, we are in a period which
"steady as you go" seems to be a mantra that we all appreciate.
And yet, is there such a thing as monetary policy hubris; that is,
are we better off with a system that grows 3 percent a year for
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three years or might we be better off with a system that grows 6
percent one year, zero the next and 4 percent the third? Can you
comment on that, particularly in relationship with what appears to
be some breaking point in the economy when you have testified
that per unit economic labor costs are actually going down? Is that
a credible question to ask?
Mr. GREENSPAN. Clearly, stability engenders maximum growth.
In other words, you can demonstrate, I believe, that if the goal is
maximum sustainable economic growth, that a volatile economy or
a volatile monetary policy is not likely to contribute to that.
And I should think that the issue of a stable incremental policy
for monetary authorities is always best if that is feasible. There are
occasions when events occur which are not continuous, they occur
unexpectedly and monetary policy becomes a reflection of that phe-
nomenon. But I think history will demonstrate that the less vola-
tile policy changes are, the less volatile fluctuations in the financial
system are, the greater is the long-term sustainable economic
growth.
Chairman LEACH. Well, thank you very much. And your testi-
mony is very much appreciated. And certainly this committee
would be remiss not to go on record again with: A, support of your
renomination; and B, more importantly, support for the independ-
ence of the Federal Reserve System. Thank you very much.
Mr. GREENSPAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman LEACH. The hearing is adjourned.
[Whereupon, at 12:54 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
A P P E N D IX
February 17, 2000
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CURRENCY
Committee on Banking
and Financial Services
James A. Leach, Chairman
For Immediate Release: Contact: David Runkel or
Thursday, February 17,2000 Brookly McLaughlin (202) 226-0471
Opening Statement
Of Representative James A. Leach
Chairman, Committee on Banking and Financial Services
Humphrey-Hawkins Hearing on the Conduct of Monetary Policy
The Committee meets today to receive the semiannual report of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System on the conduct of monetary policy and the state of the economy, as
mandated in the Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978.
Chairman Greenspan, welcome back to the House Banking Committee and congratulations on
your renomination and reconfirmation as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. The President and
Senate have made a wise and timely decision. It underscores that the country has been well served
by an independent, non-partisan Federal Reserve.
The Act under which this hearing is held prescribes that the Federal Reserve System conduct
policies to bring to realization "the goals of maximum employment, stable prices and moderate
long-term interest rates."
As we exit the 20th century and enter a new millennium, the underpinning goals of the
Humphrey-Hawkins legislation appear to have been met More Americans have jobs than ever
before; the unemployment rate is at an historic modern day low; inflation is in check; productivity
growth is the highest in 15 years; and not only is the federal budget in balance, but to the
astonishment of most, surpluses are forecast for the foreseeable future.
Sustained economic growth has occurred in part due to significant private sector productivity
increases, in part as a result of a mix and fiscal and monetary policies which, perhaps, for the first
time in decades are working in sync, rather than in juxtaposition. The budget surplus which has
had the effect of reducing reliance of debt issuance at the federal level has increased the flexibility
of the Fed to manage monetary policy.
Divided government has had its rewards. A conservative bent to Congress has moderated the
Executive Branch and has served well the American economy. In this regard, it deserves stressing
that just as the Executive Branch has primary responsibility in the field of international affairs
and the Fed and the Open Market Committee have authority for the conduct of monetary policy,
the Congress is preeminently accountable for federal budgetary matters.
While one of the stark difficulties in our economy is that the gap between the well-to-do and the
less well off is widening, job opportunities are expanding to the most disadvantaged parts of the
population.
Growth has been propelled in a circumstance where per capita federal government spending has
leveled off, or perhaps even declined, giving rise to the conclusion that for the vast majority of
Americans the economics of compassion is the economics of governmental restraint
Before turning to your testimony, Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask if the Ranking Member of
the Full Committee and Chairman and Ranking Member of the Monetary Polky Subcommittee
have opening statements.
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CURRENCY
Committee on Banking
and Financial Services
James A. Leach, Chairman
For Immediate Release: Contact: David Runkel or
Thursday, February 17,2000 Brookly McLaughlin (202) 226-0471
Opening Statement
Chairman Spencer Bachus
Subcommittee on Domestic and International Policy
Humphrey-Hawkins Hearing, February 17, 2000
Chairman Greenspan, you should be congratulated on your recent reappointment and for your
accomplishments as Chairman of the Federal Reserve since 1987. Three key facts show what
Chairman Greenspan has accomplished. During your term in office, mortgage rates are down 2.4
percent, inflation is down 1.7 percent, and unemployment is down 1.9 percent
Low inflation, low unemployment, and rising wages have created significant economic
opportunities for all Americans. The robust stock market has also created opportunities for many.
Undoubtedly much of the credit for today's positive economic scenario is owed to the policies you
have implemented as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.
Today we will hear your testimony as required by the Humphrey-Hawkins law, which requires a
semi-annual report by the Fed to Congress on the conduct of monetary policy. Since there is some
question as to whether the Senate will vote to continue having the Humphrey-Hawkins hearings, I
would like to affirm my desire that they continue. And, even if these hearings do not continue in
their current form, I believe it's very important that the essential content of these hearings should
still be presented.
I would also like to point out that, for the first time, most of the goals imposed on the Fed by
Humphrey-Hawkins, such as a balanced budget, adequate productivity growth, reasonable price
stability, and an unemployment rate near 4 percent, have been achieved and maintained under
your Chairmanship. For years most economists thought these goals were impossible to accomplish
or, if accomplished would be at cross-purposes, but you and the economy have proven them
wrong.
As we prepare to enter the new millennium, today's hearing represents an important opportunity
for the Federal Reserve to clearly articulate the principles on which its future policy decisions will
be based. In particular, it should be made clear why the Fed thinks it is necessary to adopt a
tightening mode in the absence of signs of rising inflation pressures.
This task won't be easy. Serious observers and analysts have been repeatedly surprised in the past
few years by the US economy's rapid growth and stunning productivity surge.
There has been such incredible development in the economy over the last 16 years that some
people have been over-awed with the results. Today you could give us an economic road map for
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the future, where are we headed, what are the limits, what are the potential detours. It is
important to know where the economy is going, and especially to be aware of any future bumps in
the road or potential detours that might be ahead (as we drive into the future).
You have mentioned previously your concerns about inflation, but there may be others. The
recent spike in oil prices and a flattening or inversion of the bond yield are both historically linked
to the economic downturn that plagued our economy in the seventies, and the brief recessions in
the beginning of the 80's and the 90's.
Another possible concern is the significant rise in margin lending. The level of debt to purchase
stocks has risen to $243 billion, or 1.5 percent of market value. Margin lending has historically
moved in tandem with the market's value, but the recent burst of margin borrowing in the market
has been more alarming because it has outrun the rise in stocks' value.
Looking at the global economic picture, the U.S. current account deficit is forecast to climb to
4.2% of GDP this year (from 3.7% in 1999) and remain above 4% through 2001. This could cause
problems if investors do not continue to purchase U.S. dollar financial assets on a scale large
enough to finance the external deficit (without large fluctuations in either exchange rates or
interest rates).
Therefore, while it is undeniable that our economy has reached record levels of prosperity and
growth, it is also apparent that several potential dangers exist that threaten our economy. Mr.
Chairman, we will be counting on you to help guide us down the unmapped and untraveled roads
of the new millennium. Your experience and intellect should serve us well in this endeavor, one of
unprecedented challenges and complexities.
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U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
CC'.'Mi'TEE CN SArjKiNG A';D HNANCiAL SERVICES
ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS
2129 RAYBURN HOUSE CFFiCE BUILDNG
WASHINGTON. DC 20515-6050
February 17, 2000
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors
Federal Reserve System
Washington, DC 20551
Dear Chairman:
Thank you for your responses today to questions regarding the economic and monetary
policy implications of eliminating the federal debt. As you know, the President has
called for paying off the federal debt by the year 2013, which is estimated will cost
around $2.5 trillion.
Currently, the Federal Reserve relies on treasury bonds to conduct open market
operations. In response to questions by Representatives Roukema, Bentscn and myself,
you indicated that you perceived no imminent difficulty in your ability to perform open
market operations, but that eventually the Fed may turn to the highest grade, say AAA+
private market bonds. Several questions arise from this possibility.
First, given the current rate of reduction in the federal debt, have you estimated at what
point in the future that you could no longer effectively implement open market operations
using the Treasury bond market? Most importantly, how would the Fed avoid "allocating
credit" when it chooses a new instrument for its operations?
Second, what would be the economic effect of significantly reducing or eliminating
Treasury bonds on the private bond market? Would the Treasury bond market remain,
perhaps on a much smaller scale, or would it be completely eliminated? Where else
could investors find comparably risk-free bonds? Would they be able to turn to Fannie
Mae or Freddie Mac? What would become the new benchmark for commercial loans and
particularly inoYtgafjtt?
I look forward to receiving your response to these questions at your earliest convenience.
If you have any questions or would like more information, please feel free to call me, or
have your staj^call mine at 224-0763.
Sii
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OP THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON. D. C. EO55I
March 10, 2000
The Honorable Spencer Bachus
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C, 20515
Dear Congressman r
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to respond to your questions on the
economic and policy implications of eliminating the federal debt.
The Federal Reserve has not prepared any forma] estimates of the point at
which it would experience difficulties in conducting open market operations as the federal
debt is paid down, and we do not expect to encounter significant difficulties in the near
future. As you know, even though the Treasury has been paying down debt for the past
two years or so, the recent surpluses followed a very long period of large federal deficits,
and consequently the volume of federal debt outstanding remains quite large. Moreover,
the Federal Reserve Act enables us to transact in Treasury securities, and certain other
instrumems (such as obligations of federal agencies, certain obligations of state and local
governments, foreign exchange, sovereign debt, etc.) on both an outright and a temporary,
repurchase basis. The Federal Reserve already has been placing considerable emphasis on
repurchase transactions in our operations. The availability of repurchase agreements
against non-Treasury instruments as well as against Treasury securities will continue to
contribute to our flexibility in an environment of declining Treasury debt.
As you suggest, an objective of the Federal Reserve in implementing
monetary policy is to minimize interference in the allocation of credit in the money and
capital markets. Meeting this objective would be an important consideration in the design
of any implementation alternatives, should declines in Treasury debt eventually make
modifications of our current techniques desirable. I should clarify that current statutory
authority docs not permit the Federal Reserve to make purchases of high-grade private
bonds on either an outright or temporary basis. If at some future lime it should become
apparent that additional authority is desirable, we would request that the Congress make
technical changes in the Federal Reserve Act to permit transactions in a broader range of
assets.
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The precise market responses lo a reduction or even complete elimination of
Treasury debt arc difficult to judge in advance. (The main variable determining whether
Treasury debt is eliminated entirely is the realized amount of federal surpluses.) Since
Treasury obligations have been acting as benchmark issues, some market adaptations
certainly will be required if Treasury debt shrinks significantly. As I mentioned at the
hearing, I am confident that the capital markets would create alternative benchmarks to fill
the void left by disappearing Treasury debt. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac already have
attempted to take advantage of this situation by issuing so-called "benchmark" and
"reference" issues, but it is possible that obligations of entirely private firms eventually
could serve as benchmarks.
As I often have emphasized, there is considerable uncertainty about the size
of future surpluses and, indeed, about whether they will even continue to materialize.
Consequently, we should be cautious about making plans based on projections of large
surpluses. If the surpluses do eventuate, the implied smaller federal presence in credit
markets will have substantial benefits for the economy. The reduced volumes of federal
debt will tend to lower even private real interest rates and more generally will foster a
receptive climate for private financing of capital formation, which will help to maximize
sustainable economic growth. Any adaptations that may eventually be required in Federal
Reserve operations are insignificant in comparison 10 those benefits. Similarly, I am quite
confident that any market adaptations in response to declining Treasury debt will ultimately
preserve and possibly even enhance the efficiency of our capital markets.
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Opening Statement of U.S. Rep. Michael P. Forbes
House Committee on Banking & Financial Services
Hearing on February 17,2000
Mr. Chairman, I am proud to be here today with the esteemed Federal Reserve Board
Chairman, Alan Greenspan. With Chairman Greenspan's assistance, our economy has
experienced its longest economic expansion in history - over 7 years of prosperity. My priority
today is that we work to sustain the economic prosperity our country is now enjoying.
In particular, my neighbors in Long Island are concerned about rising interest rates, the
high price of home heating oil, and the future of Social Security and Medicare.
Like other areas around our country, Suffolk County, NY is plagued with high property
taxes and very expensive real estate prices. Because of these high costs, buying a home is often
prohibitively expensive - even for middle-income families. With every small percentage
increase of interest rates, my neighbors are experiencing even more difficulty buying a home.
Homeownership is a pivotal building block for family security, stability, and strong
communities. All families deserve the opportunity to achieve the American dream of owning a
home. I am interested in hearing what Chairman Greenspan will say today about the delicate
balance between rising inflation and interest rates.
In addition, my neighbors on Long Island are having great difficulties paying for the
significant increases in home heating oil. Oil price increases are, proportionately speaking,
almost identical to 1979 and 1991. Along with many of my colleagues from the Northeast, I
have asked President Clinton to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (SPR). This
will alleviate the shortage of crude oil in the United States and thus the extraordinary prices we
are experiencing. The SPR's current size — more than 560 million barrels — represents $20
billion investment by the taxpayers of our country. I believe that this is an appropriate occasion
to use some of this investment. I am interested in hearing Chairman Greenspan's comments on
the impact of the high oil prices on our economy. Will high oil rates cause our economy to slow
down? If President Clinton agrees to release some of the SPR and oil prices level out, won't that
have a positive impact on the economy?
Finally, I want to thank Chairman Greenspan for all his work in advocating for the
reduction of the national debt. Like Chairman Greenspan, I believe that we must reduce the
debt. With 12% of the federal budget going to interest on the debt, significantly reducing the
debt is the only way to really save Social Security and Medicare. I am looking forward to
Chairman Greenspan's comments about the amount that the debt must be reduced to save Social
Security and Medicare.
Thank you.
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OPENING STATEMENT
Hon. Marge Roukema
Humphrey Hawkins Hearing
February 17, 2000
House Banking and Financial Services Committee
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
It is very good to see you again, Chairman Greenspan. Congratulations on your
renomination and recent confirmation by the Senate to a 4th Term as Chairman of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System. I think I speak for all of us here when I say that we
are lucky to have you as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve for the next 4 years.
As with most Humphrey Hawkins Hearings, you are going to get a wide variety of
questions and comments.
For instance, I am sure that you will have at least 5 questions on the high price of oil. The price
of a barrel of oil passed $30 just the other day which is a 9 year high. Many of my colleagues
will inquire as to what effect this increase will have on consumers and inflation.
In my state of New Jersey and the entire Northeast we are facing a crisis. Because of high,
sometimes doubled, cost of heating their homes, many residents have less discretionary income
to spend or save each month. And high diesel fuel prices threaten the truck, trains, and ships that
carry the commerce across the economic crossroads of the nation - the Northeast. This dramatic
rise in oil prices could have a significant negative impact on our economy. I would like you to
know your thoughts on this issue.
Others will inquire about mortgage rates. As you know, mortgage rates are approaching a 4 year
high and could go over the 9% mark. This surge in interest rates could have a large impact on
homebuyers, the housing industry and the economy. Mortgage rates are a politically sensitive
issue, if ever there was one.
Still others will raise issues such as safety and soundness of the banking system in light of the
passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, merging the BIF and SAIF deposit insurance funds,
establishing caps and rebates, OTC derivatives, financial privacy, expanding CRA, the evils of
mixing banking and commerce and who knows what else.
Last year, at this hearing I questioned you on the related subjects of the size of tax cuts, paying
down the debt and the relation to economic growth and inflation. Today I would like to inquire,
however, about your views on the Administration's proposal to retire all $3.6 Trillion of the
publicly held Treasury debt by 2013. Is this a good idea? I would like to direct your attention to
the article in this morning's New York Times entitled "Shrinking Treasury Debt Creates
Uncertain World" which suggests that paying off all $3.6 Trillion in publicly held Treasury debt
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would have an adverse effect on the Federal Reserve's ability to conduct monetary policy. See
attached.
I think it is fair to say that the Government Bond market has been volatile in the last 3 weeks. Its
not clear whether the market thinks paying all the Treasury debt is good or bad. Are there any
good policy reasons for maintaining a modest amount of publicly held Treasury debt rather than
paying it all off? Could this move adversely affect the banking system? The FED buys and sells
large amounts of Treasuries through its open market operations. What effect, if any, will this
plan have on the Federal Reserve's ability to conduct monetary policy and what debt security
would most likely replace U.S. Government bonds for such activities.
Thank you.
Shrinking Treasury Debt Creates Uncertain World
said. "So in addition to increased ty GHETCHEN MORGENSON Ko M no ay m b y e a s n o d . t B ow ut e r I i n n t t e h r e e st m r e a a t n es ti m fo e r , a l t l h . e t m o a b in e I m n u th c e h s m hr o in re k in pr g o m ne a r t k o e w t a il r d e s e w xp in e g c s te i d n N.J B . e " c I a t u a se ff t e h c e ts m ev a e r r k y e b t o f d o y r . T " reasury debt is
volatility, we are dealing with almost Treasury's plan to reduce Its debt is roiling price and thereby riskier for investors. the largest and most heavily traded m the
by definition a riskier bond market Lawrence H. Summers, secretary of the the financial markets and raising the pros- Finally, corporations wilt probably issue world, and because investors evaluate al-
as well" Treasury, is clearly relishing his rale as pect of far-reaching, unintended effects on more debt to fill the public demand for most every other type of bond using a
This is quite a change, given that the man who put the nation on a no-debt the economy and investors. bonds, creating a debt burden that could Treasury security as a benchmark, even
much of the bond market has been a diet. In Congressional testimony last week, One immediate effect of the shrinking make it much more difficult for the nation the smallest change in the government's
refute for investors seeking safety Mr. Summers predicted that by 2013. the Treasury debt market, economists say, is to shake off a downturn in the economy. financing has effects at home and abroad.
and security in their holdings. Few $3.9 trillion in Treasury debt held by the to make It tougher for the Federal Reserve "The surplus has forced the Treasury to "One of the reasons the US. has been the
are confident that investors have public would be eliminated, repurchased Board to cool the economy because « it crtange the way they do business, and we dominant factor in the world is we were the
by funds from budget surpluses that the raises short-term interest rates, tcng-term are looking at the consequences," said only place with a deep, liquid debt mar-
will need to take when they Invest in roaring American economy has wrought rates are not rising in tandem. Ward McCarthy, principal at Stone fc Mc-
bonds as the Treasury bows out of The result, he said, will be an even stronger In addition, the debt securities that re- Carthy Research Associates in Princeton. Continued on Page /1
the market and corporate issuers
take its place.
Moreover, investors may not rec-
ognize the implications of a big In-
crease in corporate debt when the
nation experiences a recession.
"When you go into an economic stow-
down and there Is • large amount of
government debt outstanding and a
small amount of corporate debt out-
standing, that's not a problem." Mr.
Kaufman explained. "All you need is
an easing In monetary policy and off
we go again. But when the private I
sector is heavily burdened when we
slow down, that will require more
stimulation. This is a concern."
the budget surplus to finance a buy-
back of existing Treasury debt could
cause inflation. Robert H. Parks, a
professor of finance at the Lubtn
Graduate School of Business at Pace
University, said: "This Increases the
money supply, and it also increases
the reserves of private financial In-
stitutions. It is highly expansionary
and potentially inflationary In an
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CHAPTER ONE THE BUDGET OUTLOOK
available for redemption could be retired by 2009.
The Outlook for "Available" is the key word: some portion of the out-
standing debt will remain in public hands because
Federal Debt many 30-year bonds are not slated to mature until af-
ter 2010. The Treasury has announced that it plans to
Measures of federal debt are meant to tally the accu- begin repurchasing some outstanding debt in 2000;
mulated past obligations of the government—what the however, it is unlikely that over time, all holders of
government owes. Yet the two primary measures 30-year bonds (or even a significant portion of them)
present vastly different perspectives on the magnitude will choose to sell their securities at prices that the
of such obligations and what they might be like in the government would be willing to pay. Furthermore,
future, given the outlook for the budget. unless the government discontinues the Treasury's
programs for savings bonds and state and local gov-
Debt held by the public—the most economically ernment securities, those forms of debt will continue to
meaningful measure of previous obligations—is the be issued and will remain outstanding at the end of the
net amount of money that the federal government has projection period.
borrowed to finance all of the deficits accumulated
over the nation's history, less any surpluses, as well as Under each of the discretionary spending varia-
other, considerably smaller financing needs. At the tions of CBO's baseline, the Treasury would have suf-
end of 1999, debt held by the public totaled $3.6 tril- ficient cash on hand sometime between 2007 and 2009
lion—$88 billion less than at the end of the previous to retire all debt held by the public. For the reasons
year and $138 billion less than at its 1997 peak. Un- given above, it could not devote all of those funds to
der all three variations of the baseline, CBO projects that purpose. Under such circumstances, it might be
that debt held by the public will decline. more plausible to assume that the Congress and the
President would decide to cut taxes and increase
Gross federal debt—and a similar measure, debt spending to dissipate any surplus cash that either was
subject to limit—counts debt issued to government not needed to pay for the government's activities and
accounts as well as debt held by the public. Debt is- services or that remained after all available debt had
sued to government accounts does not flow through been redeemed. However, because CBO makes no
the credit markets; such transactions are intragovem- assumptions about future policy actions, its projec-
mental and have little or no effect on the economy. tions simply assume that the Treasury will invest all
Under all three baseline variations, both gross federal excess cash at a rate of return equal to the average
debt and debt subject to limit are rising by 2009. rate projected for Treasury bills and notes.
Why Debt Held by the Public Does Not Decline by
Debt Held by the Public the Amount of the Surplus. In most years, what the
Treasury borrows closely reflects the total deficit or
surplus. However, a number of factors broadly la-
To cover the difference between revenues and expendi-
beled "other means of financing" also affect the gov-
tures, the Department of the Treasury raises money by
ernment's need to borrow money from the public.
selling securities to the public. Between 1969 and
Those factors include reductions (or increases) in the
1997, the Treasury sold ever-increasing amounts of
government's normal cash balances needed for day-to-
those securities to finance continuing deficits, thus
day operations, seigniorage, and other, miscellaneous
causing debt held by the public to climb from year to
changes. The largest of those other borrowing needs
year. CBO's current baseline paths now point toward
reflects the capitalization of financing accounts used
a different outcome. If the projected surpluses materi-
for credit programs. Direct student loans, rural hous-
alize, debt held by the public will decline substantially
ing programs, loans by the Small Business Adminis-
from today's level of $3.6 trillion (see Table 1-5).
tration, and other credit programs require the govern-
ment to disburse money up front on the promise of
Indeed, CBO estimates that under all three ver-
repayment at a later date. Those up-front outlays are
sions of its baseline, debt held by the public that is
not counted in the budget, which reflects only the esti-
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THE BUDGET AND ECONOMIC OUTLOOK: RSCAL YEARS 2001-2010 January 2000
Table 1-5.
CBO Projections of Federal Debt at the End of the Year Under Alternative Versions of the Baseline
(By fiscal year, In billions of dollars)
Actual
1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
Discretionary Spending Grows at the Rate of Inflation After 2000*
Debt Held by the Public 3,633 3,455 3,292 3,097 2,884 2,651 2,394 2,080 1,721 1,330 1,016 941
Debt Held by Government Accounts
Social Security 855 1,009 1,175 1,358 1,554 1,763 1,988 2,2272,481 2.749 3,030 3.325
Other government accounts* 1.118 1.201 1.282 1.367 1.450 1.530 1.609 1.696 1.783 1.867 1.951 2.035
Subtotal 1,973 2,210 2,458 2,725 3,004 3,293 3,597 3,923 4,264 4.616 4,981 5,360
Gross Federal Debt 5,606 5,665 5,750 5.822 5.888 5,944 5.991 6,003 5,984 5,946 5,997 6,300
Debt Subject to Umif 5,568 5,627 5,712 5,784 5.851 5,908 5,955 5,967 5,949 5,911 5,963 6,267
Accumulated Excess Cash Greater Than
Debt Available for Redemption
Debt Held by the Public as a
Percentage of GDP 39.9 36.1 32.8 29.5 26.3 232 20.1 16.7 13.2
Discretionary Spending Is Frozen at the Level Enacted for 2000*
Debt Held by the Public 3,633 3.455 3,281 3,062 2,805 2,506 2,162 1.739 1,249 1.078 1.016 941
Debt Held by Government Accounts
Social Security 855 1,009 1,175 1.358 1,554 1.763 1.988 2,227 2,4812,749 3,030 3,325
Other government accounts" 1.118 1.201 1.282 1.367 1.450 1.530 1.609 1.696 1.7831.867 1.951 2.035
Subtotal 1.973 2.210 2,458 2,725 3,004 3,293 3.597 3,923 4,264 4,616 4.981 5.360
Gross Federal Debt 5.606 5.665 5.739 5.787 5,809 5.799 5,759 5,662 5.512 5.693 5,997 6,300
Debt Subject to Umif 5.568 5.627 5.701 5.750 5,772 5.762 5,723 5,627 5.478 5,659 5,963 6.267
Accumulated Excess Cash Greater Than
Debt Available for Redemption n.a. n.a. 377 935 1,555
Memorandum:
Debt Held by the Public as a
Percentage of GDP 39.9 36.1 32.7 29.2 25.6 21.9 18.1 14.0 9.6 7.9
Disci try Spending Equals CBO's Estimates of the Statutory Caps Through 2002
and Grows at the Rate of Inflation Thereafter
Debt Held by the Public 3,633 3,455 3.234 2,954 2,647 2.314 1,949 1,522 1,142 1,078 1.016 941
Debt Held by Government Accounts
Social Security 855 1,009 1,175 1,358 1,554 1,763 1,988 2,227 2,481 2.749 3.030 3.325
Other government accounts6 1.118 1.201 1.262 1.367 1.450 1.530 1.609 1.696 1.783 1.867 1.951 2.035
Subtotal 1.973 2.210 2.458 2.725 3.004 3.293 3,597 3.923 4,264 4.616 4.981 5.360
Gross Federal Debt 5.606 5,665 5,692 5.679 5,651 5,608 5.546 5.445 5.406 5.693 5,997 6,300
Debt Subject to Umif 5,568 5,627 5,654 5,641 5,614 5,571 5.510 5,410 5.371 5,659 5.963 6.267
Accumulated Excess Cash Greater Than
Debt Available for Redemption n.a. n.a. 96 549 1.058 1.608
Debt Held by the Public as a
Percentage of GDP 36.1 32.2 28.1 24.2 20.3 16.3 12.2 8.8 7.9 7.2 6.3
SOURCE: Congressional Budget Office.
NOTE: n.a = not applicable
a. After adjustment for advance appropriations.
b. Mainly Civil Service Retirement, Military Retirement, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and the Airport and Airway Trust Fund.
c. Differs from the gross federal debt primarily because most debt issued by agencies other than the Treasury is excluded from the debt limit
(currently. $5.950 billion).
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CHAPTER ONE THE BUDGET OUTLOOK
mated subsidy costs of such programs. Because the Figure 1-3.
amount of the loans being disbursed is larger than the Debt Held by the Public as a Share of GDP
repayments and interest flowing back into the financ- (By fiscal year)
ing accounts, the government's annual borrowing
Percentage of GDP
needs are $7 billion to $14 billion higher than the bud-
get surplus would indicate.
100
In 1999, the Treasury ended the fiscal year with
an unusually large cash balance for operations. Nor- 60
mally, the Treasury tries to end the year with between
$40 billion and $50 billion in cash, but on September
30, the balance totaled $56.5 billion. The unneeded
portion of the cash balance will be used to reduce debt
held by the public during fiscal year 2000. 20
Toward the end of the projection period, public
1940 1950 1960 1970 1980
debt is projected to decline by less than the amount of
the surplus (adjusted for other means of financing, SOURCE: Congressional Budget Office.
such as seigniorage). CBO assumes that by that time,
proceeds from excess cash will help to increase the
surplus but excess cash (by definition) will not con-
Gross Federal Debt
tribute to reductions in debt. For example, under the
inflated version of the baseline, the surplus in 2010 is
projected to be $489 billion. Of that total, approxi- In addition to selling securities to the public, the Trea-
mately $75 billion may be used to redeem available sury has issued nearly $2 trillion in securities to vari-
debt, another $8 billion would be consumed by other ous government accounts (mostly trust funds). The
means of financing, and the remaining $406 billion largest balances are in the Social Security trust funds
would represent excess cash. ($855 billion at the end of 1999) and the retirement
funds for federal civilian employees ($492 billion).
Debt Held by the Public as a Percentage of GDP. The total holdings of government accounts grow ap-
As a share of GDP, debt held by the public reached a proximately in step with projected trust fund sur-
plateau in the 1990s and held steady at about 50 per- pluses. The funds redeem securities when they need to
cent from 1993 through 1995 (see Figure 1-3). Since pay benefits; in the meantime, the government both
then, it has fallen to 40 percent of GDP. By 2004, pays and collects interest on those securities.
under all three of CBO's baseline variations, that
share will plunge below its post-World War n nadir of Investments by trust funds and other government
24 percent (achieved in 1974). accounts are handled within the Treasury, and the pur-
chases and sales (with very rare exceptions) do not
Over time, the nation's shrinking debt will gener- flow through the credit markets. Similarly, interest on
ate considerable savings in the government's interest those securities is simply an intragovernmental trans-
payments. Reducing debt in the near term can sub- fer: it is paid by one part of the government to another
stantially decrease interest payments in the future. In part and does not affect the total deficit or surplus.
fact, by 2005, net interest spending is projected to Thus, participants in financial markets view trust fund
drop to between 1.2 percent and 1.3 percent of GDP holdings as a bookkeeping entry—an intragovern-
—as a share of the economy, half as large as it was in mental IOU. Nevertheless, those holdings indicate a
1999. commitment by the government to use future resources
for the trust fund programs, although the amount of
the holdings may eventually be insufficient to sustain
the programs' benefits at the levels defined undercur-
rent law.
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Rep. Paul Ryan, Wisconsin
A new Investor Class is emerging as a result of America's dynamic economy. More and
more, workers are coming to own the means of production. Karl Marx must be turning in
his grave - and Lenin in his glass display box.
As the demographics investing are changing, so are the reasons for investing. The best
thing that Congress can do, not only to encourage more investment, but also to facilitate
further economic growth, is to reduce capital gains taxes and index them to inflation.
Currently, 80 million Americans, or 43 percent of U.S. households, own stock or mutual
funds. Between 1989 and 1995, shareholding increased significantly among every age
group, income level, race, and occupation. Individuals who had not previously
participated in the stock market are now not only purchasing stock, but actively managing
them as well.
This participation in capital markets has led to overall economic growth, by giving
companies the resources to increase overall productivity. It has also enhanced investors'
retirement savings, eased pressure on education funding, and rewarded personal
productivity.
As more Americans embrace investment in capital markets, the longer their time horizons
become. Today, the majority of American stockholders invest with a long-term strategy
in mind.
An Investment Company Institute survey investigated the motives that led Americans to
invest in the market. According to this poll of mutual fund shareholders, 84 percent
invested for supplementary retirement income, 26 percent to pay for education expenses,
9 percent to supplement current expenses, and 7 percent to buy a home.
Investors interviewed by Peter D. Hart Research Associates listed similar priorities. 89
percent invested for retirement security, 28 percent to pay for a child's education, 18
60
percent to afford a major new purchase such as a car, 13 percent to be able to support an
elderly parent, and 10 percent to buy a new home.
These are not necessarily "the rich." These are average Americans wanting to purchase a
home, put a child through college, pay future medical bills, and - most importantly - to
save for retirement.
A characteristic of the new Investor Class - as opposed to the perceived "traditional
stockholder" - is their resilience to capital market turmoil in support of long-term savings
goals. The secret is out - stocks consistently produce a higher-rate of return over other
investments over time. Generally, only investors looking to make a "quick buck" off the
market buy and sell in short time intervals.
In 1997, when the capital gains tax rate was cut from 28 to 20 percent, capital gains tax
receipts have soared. As stock values increased - a result of the tax cut - America
experienced its highest gains in productivity and private-sector capital investment in a
decade.
As the tax rate most sensitive to change, reductions in the capital gains tax rate has
historically led to increases in tax collection and tax payments and thus greater
government revenue. This is a classic example of lowering a tax rate and broadening the
tax base. As more and more Americans become part of the Investor Class, the tax base
will continue to broaden - as long as Congress continues to lower the tax rate.
The current punitive capital gains tax will only serve to keep more Americans from
investing - reducing their impetus to save for the future. It also slows the capital
formation and the entrepreneurship that has fueled our economic growth.
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Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Monetary Policy Report to the Congress
Pursuant to the
Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978
February 17, 2000
62
Letter of Transmittal
BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
Washington, D.C., February 17, 2000
THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE
THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
The Board of Governors is pleased to submit its Monetary Policy Report to the Congress, pursuant to the
Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act of 1978.
Sincerely,
Alan Greenspan, Chairman
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Table of Contents
Page
Monetary Policy and the Economic Outlook
Economic and Financial Developments in 1999 and Early 2000
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Monetary Policy Report to the Congress
Report submitted to the Congress on February 17, its tightest in three decades and becoming tighter, the
2000, pursuant to the Full Employment and Balanced risk that pressures on costs and prices would eventu-
Growth Act of 1978 ally emerge mounted over the course of the year. To
maintain the low-inflation environment that has been
so important to the sustained health of the current
MONETARY POLICY AND THE expansion, the FOMC ultimately implemented four
ECONOMIC OUTLOOK quarter-point increases in the intended federal funds
rate, the most recent of which came at the beginning
The U.S. economy posted another exceptional perfor- of this month. In total, the federal funds rate has been
mance in 1999. The ongoing expansion appears to raised 1 percentage point, although, at 53/4 percent, it
have maintained strength into early 2000 as it set a stands only 1A point above its level just before the
record for longevity, and—aside from the direct autumn-1998 financial market turmoil. At its most
effects of higher crude oil prices—inflation has recent meeting, the FOMC indicated that risks appear
remained subdued, in marked contrast to the typical to remain on the side of heightened inflation pres-
experience during previous expansions. The past year sures, so it will need to remain especially attentive to
brought additional evidence that productivity growth developments in this regard.
has improved substantially since the mid-1990s,
boosting living standards while helping to hold down
increases in costs and prices despite very tight labor Monetary Policy, Financial Markets,
markets. and the Economy over 1999 and Early 2000
The Federal Open Market Committee's pursuit of
financial conditions consistent with sustained expan- The first quarter of 1999 saw a further unwinding of
sion and low inflation has required some adjustments the heightened levels of perceived risk and risk aver-
to the settings of monetary policy instruments over sion that had afflicted financial markets in the autumn
the past two years. In late 1998, to cushion the U.S. of 1998; investors became much more willing to
economy from the effects of disruptions in world advance funds, securities issuance picked up, and risk
financial markets and to ameliorate some of the spreads fell further—though not back to the unusu-
resulting strains, money market conditions were ally low levels of the first half of 1998. At the same
eased. By the middle of last year, however, with time, domestic demand remained quite strong, and
financial markets resuming normal functioning, for- foreign economies showed signs of rebounding. The
eign economies recovering, and domestic demand FOMC concluded at its February and March meet-
continuing to outpace increases in productive poten- ings that, if these trends were to persist, the risks of
tial, the Committee began to reverse that easing. the eventual emergence of somewhat greater inflation
As the year progressed, foreign economies, in pressures would increase, and it noted that a case
general, recovered more quickly and displayed could be made for unwinding part of the easing
greater vigor than had seemed likely at the start of actions of the preceding fall. However, the Commit-
the year. Domestically, the rapid productivity growth tee hesitated to adjust policy before having greater
raised expectations of future incomes and profits and assurance that the recoveries in domestic financial
thereby helped keep spending moving up at a faster markets and foreign economies were on firm footing.
clip than current productive capacity. Meanwhile, By the May meeting, these recoveries were solidi-
prices of most internationally traded materials fying, and the pace of domestic spending appeared to
rebounded from their earlier declines; this turn- be outstripping the growth of the economy's poten-
around, together with a flattening of the exchange tial, even allowing for an appreciable acceleration
value of the dollar after its earlier appreciation, trans- in productivity. The Committee still expected some
lated into an easing of downward pressure on the slowing in the expansion of aggregate demand, but
prices of imoorts in general. Core inflation measures the timing and extent of any moderation remained
generally remained low, but with the labor market at uncertain. Against this backdrop, the FOMC main-
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Monetary Policy Report to the Congress D February 2000
tained an unchanged policy stance but announced the Manager of the System Open Market Account to
immediately after the meeting that it had chosen a counter potential liquidity strains in the period around
directive tilted toward the possibility of a firming of the century date change and that would also help
rates. This announcement implemented the disclosure ensure the effective implementation of the Commit-
policy adopted in December 1998, whereby major tee's monetary policy objectives. Although members
shifts in the Committee's views about the balance of believed that efforts to prepare computer systems for
risks or the likely direction of future policy would be the century date change had made the probability of
made public immediately. Members expected that, by significant disruptions quite small, some aversion to
making the FOMC's concerns public earlier, such Y2K risk exposure was already evident in the mar-
announcements would encourage financial market kets, and the costs that might stem from a dysfunc-
reactions to subsequent information that would help tional financing market at year-end were deemed to
stabilize the economy. In practice, however, those be unacceptably high. The FOMC agreed to autho-
reactions seemed to be exaggerated and to focus even rize, temporarily, (1) a widening of the pool of collat-
more than usual on possible near-term Committee eral that could be accepted in System open market
action. transactions, (2) the use of reverse repurchase agree-
Over subsequent weeks, economic activity contin- ment accounting in addition to the currently avail-
ued to expand vigorously, labor markets remained able matched sale-purchase transactions to absorb
very tight, and oil and other commodity prices rose reserves temporarily, and (3) the auction of options
further. In this environment, the FOMC saw an on repurchase agreements, reverse repurchase agree-
updrift in inflation as a significant risk in the absence ments, and matched sale-purchase transactions that
of some policy firming, and at the June meeting it could be exercised in the period around year-end.
raised the intended level of the federal funds rate The Committee also authorized a permanent exten-
'/4 percentage point. The Committee also announced sion of the maximum maturity on regular repurchase
a symmetric directive, noting that the marked degree and matched sale-purchase transactions from sixty to
of uncertainty about the extent and timing of prospec- ninety days.
tive inflationary pressures meant that further firming The broader range of collateral approved for repur-
of policy might not be undertaken in the near term, chase transactions—mainly pass-through mortgage
but that the Committee would need to be especially securities of government-sponsored enterprises and
alert to emerging inflation pressures. Markets rallied STRIP securities of the U.S. Treasury—would facili-
on the symmetric-directive announcement, and the tate the Manager's task of addressing what could be
strength of this response together with market com- very large needs to supply reserves in the succeeding
mentary suggested uncertainty about the interpreta- months, primarily in response to rapid increases in
tion of the language used to characterize possible the demand for currency, at a time of potentially
future developments and about the time period to heightened demand in various markets for U.S. gov-
which the directive applied. ernment securities. The standby financing facility,
In the period between the June and August meet- authorizing the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
ings, the ongoing strength of domestic demand and to auction the above-mentioned options to the gov-
further expansion abroad suggested that at least part ernment securities dealers that are regular counter-
of the remaining easing put in place the previous fall parties in the System's open market operations,
to deal with financial market stresses was no longer would encourage marketmaking and the maintenance
needed. Consequently, at the August meeting the of liquid financing markets essential to effective open
FOMC raised the intended level of the federal funds market operations. The standby facility was also
rate a further [A percentage point, to 51A percent. The viewed as a useful complement to the special liquid-
Committee agreed that this action, along with that ity facility, which was to provide sound depository
taken in June, would substantially reduce inflation institutions with unrestricted access to the discount
risks and again announced a symmetric directive. In a window, at a penalty rate, between October 1999 and
related action, the Board of Governors approved an April 2000. Finally, the decision to extend the maxi-
increase in the discount rate to 43/4 percent. At this mum maturity on repurchase and matched sale-
meeting the Committee also established a working purchase transactions was intended to bring the terms
group to assess the FOMC's approach to disclosing of such transactions into conformance with market
its view about prospective developments and to pro- practice and to enhance the Manager's ability over
pose procedural modifications. the following months to implement the unusually
At its August meeting, the FOMC took a number large reserve operations expected to be required
of actions that were aimed at enhancing the ability of around the turn of the year.
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Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Selected interest rates
I i | i i I
8/18 9/2910/15 11/17 12/22 5/18 6/30 8/24 10/5 11/16 12/21 2/2
1999 2000
MOTH. The data are daily. Vertical lines indicate the days on which the tal axis are those on which either the FOMC held a scheduled meeting o
Federal Reserve announced a monetary policy action. The dates on the horizon- policy action was announced. Last observations are for February 11. 2000.
Incoming information during the period leading up Governors approved an increase in the discount rate
to the FOMC's October meeting suggested that the of '/4 percentage point, to 5 percent.
growth of domestic economic activity had picked up At the December meeting, FOMC members held
from the second quarter's pace, and foreign econo- the stance of policy unchanged and, to avoid any
mies appeared to be strengthening more than had misinterpretation of policy intentions that might
been anticipated, potentially adding pressure to unsettle financial markets around the century date
already-taut labor markets and possibly creating change, announced a symmetric directive. But the
inflationary imbalances that would undermine eco- statement issued after the meeting also highlighted
nomic performance. But the FOMC viewed the risk members' continuing concern about inflation risks
of a significant increase in inflation in the near term going forward and indicated the Committee's inten-
as small and decided to await more evidence on how tion to evaluate, as soon as its next meeting, whether
the economy was responding to its previous tighten- those risks suggested that further tightening was
ings before changing its policy stance. However, the appropriate.
Committee anticipated that the evidence might well The FOMC also decided on some modifications
signal the need for additional tightening, and it again to its disclosure procedures at the December meet-
announced a directive that was biased toward ing, at which the working group mentioned above
restraint. transmitted its final report and proposals. These
Information available through mid-November modifications, announced in January 2000, consisted
pointed toward robust growth in overall economic primarily of a plan to issue a statement after every
activity and a further depletion of the pool of unem- FOMC meeting that not only would convey the
ployed workers willing to take a job. Although higher current stance of policy but also would categorize
real interest rates appeared to have induced some risks to the outlook as either weighted mainly toward
softening in interest-sensitive sectors of the economy, conditions that may generate heightened inflation
the anticipated moderation in the growth of aggregate pressures, weighted mainly toward conditions that
demand did not appear sufficient to avoid added may generate economic weakness, or balanced with
pressures on resources, predominantly labor. These respect to the goals of maximum employment and
conditions, along with further increases in oil and stable prices over the foreseeable future. The changes
other commodity prices, suggested a significant risk eliminated uncertainty about the circumstances
that inflation would pick up over time, given prevail- under which an announcement would be made;
ing financial conditions. Against this backdrop, the they clarified that the Committee's statement about
FOMC raised the target for the federal funds rate an future prospects extended beyond the intermeeting
additional 1A percentage point in November. At that period; and they characterized the Committee's views
time, a symmetric directive was adopted, consistent about future developments in a way that reflected
with the Committee's expectation that no further policy discussions and that members hoped would
policy move was likely to be considered before the be more helpful to the public and to financial
February meeting. In a related action, the Board of markets.
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Monetary Policy Report to the Congress D February 2000
Financial markets and the economy came through 1. Economic projections for 2000
the century date change smoothly. By the February Percent
2000 meeting, there was little evidence that demand Federal Reserve governors
w r r i i s s a k e s s n c . o o A m f t i i n n t g h f e la i n t m i t o o n e e a li r t n y in e g i w , m i t b t h h a e l p a F o n O t c e e M n s t C ia a l p r p s a e u i a s p r e p e d l d y , i t t a s o n t d a h r a t g h v e e e t Indicator 19 M 99 e m ac o t : ual and R R a e n s g e e rve Bank te C n p e d r n e e t s n r i a d c l y ents
for the federal funds rate '/4 percentage point to Change, fourth quarter
In fourth quarter'
5V4 percent, and characterized the risks as remain- Nominal GDP 5-6 5'/4-5'/2
ing on the side of higher inflation pressures. In a R PC e E a l c G h D ai P n ' -type price index . 3 V ' / / - 4 -2 -4 V ' 2 /i I y V / * i- -2 yA
related action, the Board of Governors approved a
Average Iwel.
'/4 percentage point increase in the discount rate, to fourth quarter
5 '/4 percent. Civilian unemployment
1. Change from average for fourth quarter of 1999 to average for fourth
quarter of 2000.
Economic Projections for 2000 2. Chain-weighted.
The members of the Board of Governors and the by a combination of factors, including reduced
Federal Reserve Bank presidents, all of whom partici- restraint from non-oil import prices, wage and price
pate in the deliberations of the FOMC, expect to see pressures associated with lagged effects of the past
another year of favorable economic performance in year's oil price rise, and larger increases in costs that
2000, although the risk of higher inflation will need might be forthcoming in another year of tight labor
to be watched especially carefully. The central ten- markets.
dency of the FOMC participants' forecasts of real The performance of the economy—both the rate of
GDP growth from the fourth quarter of 1999 to the real growth and the rate of inflation—will depend
fourth quarter of 2000 is 3V6 percent to 33/4 per- importantly on the course of productivity. Typically,
cent. A substantial part of the gain in output will in past business expansions, gains in labor productiv-
likely come from further increases in productivity. ity eventually slowed as rising demand placed
Nonetheless, economic expansion at the pace that is increased pressure on plant capacity and on the work-
anticipated should create enough new jobs to keep force, and a similar slowdown from the recent rapid
the unemployment rate in a range of 4 percent pace of productivity gain cannot be ruled out. But
to 4!/4 percent, close to its recent average. The central with many firms still in the process of implementing
tendency of the FOMC participants' inflation fore- technologies that have proved effective in reorganiz-
casts for 2000—as measured by the chain-type price ing internal operations or in gaining speedier access
index for personal consumption expenditures—is to outside resources and markets, and with the tech-
!3/4 percent to 2 percent, a range that runs a little to nologies themselves still advancing rapidly, a further
the low side of the energy-led 2 percent rise posted in rise in productivity growth from the average pace of
1999.' Even though futures markets suggest that recent years also is possible. To the extent that rapid
energy prices may turn down later this year, prices productivity growth can be maintained, aggregate
elsewhere in the economy could be pushed upward supply can grow faster than would otherwise be
possible.
However, the economic processes that are giving
rise to faster productivity growth not only are lifting
1. In past Monetary Policy Reports to the Congress, the FOMC has aggregate supply but also are influencing the growth
framed its inflation forecasts in terms of the consumer price index. of aggregate spending. With firms perceiving abun-
The chain-type price index for PCE draws extensively on data from
the consumer price index but. while not entirely free of measurement dant profit opportunities in productivity-enhancing
problems, has several advantages relative to the CPI. The PCE chain- high-tech applications, investment in new equipment
type index is constructed from a formula that reflects the changing has been surging and could well continue to rise
composition of spending and thereby avoids some of the upward bias
associated with the fixed-weight nature of the CPI. In addition, the rapidly for some time. Moreover, expectations that
weights are based on a more comprehensive measure of expenditures. the investment in new technologies will generate
Finally, historical data used in the PCE price index can be revised to high returns have been lifting the stock market and,
account for newly available information and for improvements in
measurement techniques, including those that affect source data from in turn, helping to maintain consumer spending at a
the CPI; the result is a more consistent series over time. This switch in pace in excess of the current growth of real dispos-
presentation notwithstanding, the FOMC will continue to rely on a able income. Impetus to demand from this source
variety of aggregate price measures, as well as other information on
prices and costs, in assessing the path of inflation. also could persist for a while longer, given the current
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high levels of consumer confidence and the likely serious inflationary consequences because they have
lagged effects of the large increments to household been offset by the advances in labor productivity,
wealth registered to date. The boost to aggregate which have held unit labor costs in check. But the
demand from the marked pickup in productivity pool of available workers cannot continue to shrink
growth implies that the level of interest rates needed without at some point touching off cost pressures that
to align demand with potential supply may have even a favorable productivity trend might not be able
increased substantially. Although the recent rise in to counter. Although the governors and Reserve Bank
interest rates may lead to some slowing of spending, presidents expect productivity gains to be substantial
aggregate demand may well continue to outpace again this year, incoming data on costs, prices, and
gains in potential output over the near term, an imbal- price expectations will be examined carefully to make
ance that contains the seeds of rising inflationary sure a pickup of inflation does not start to become
and financial pressures that could undermine the embedded in the economy.
expansion. The FOMC forecasts are more optimistic than the
In recent years, domestic spending has been able to economic predictions that the Administration recently
grow faster than production without engendering released, but the Administration has noted that it is
inflation partly because the external sector has pro- being conservative in regard to its assumptions about
vided a safety valve, helping to relieve the pressures productivity growth and the potential expansion of
on domestic resources. In particular, the rapid growth the economy. Relative to the Administration's fore-
of demand has been met in part by huge increases in cast, the FOMC is predicting a somewhat larger rise
imports of goods and services, and sluggishness in in real GDP in 2000 and a slightly lower unemploy-
foreign economies has restrained the growth of ment rate. The inflation forecasts are fairly similar,
exports. However, foreign economies have been firm- once account is taken of the tendency for the con-
ing, and if recovery of these economies stays on sumer price index to rise more rapidly than the
course, U.S. exports should increase faster than they chain-type price index for personal consumption
have in the past couple of years. Moreover, the rapid expenditures.
rise of the real exchange value of the dollar through
mid-1998 has since given way to greater stability, on
average, and the tendency of the earlier appreciation
Money and Debt Ranges for 2000
to limit export growth and boost import growth is
now diminishing. From one perspective, these exter-
nal adjustments are welcome because they will help At its most recent meeting, the FOMC reaffirmed the
slow the recent rapid rates of decline in net exports monetary growth ranges for 2000 that were chosen
and the current account. They also should give a on a provisional basis last July: 1 percent to 5 percent
boost to industries that have been hurt by the export for M2, and 2 percent to 6 percent for M3. As has
slump, such as agriculture and some parts of been the case for some time, these ranges were
manufacturing. At the same time, however, the chosen to encompass money growth under conditions
adjustments are likely to add to the risk of an upturn of price stability and historical velocity relationships,
in the inflation trend, because a strengthening of rather than to center on the expected growth of money
exports will add to the pressures on U.S. resources over the coming year or serve as guides to policy.
and a firming of the prices of non-oil imports Given continued uncertainty about movements in
will raise costs directly and also reduce to some the velocities of M2 and M3 (the ratios of nominal
degree the competitive restraints on the prices of U.S. GDP to the aggregates), the Committee still has little
producers. confidence that money growth within any particular
Domestically, substantial plant capacity is still range selected for the year would be associated with
available in some manufacturing industries and could the economic performance it expected or desired.
continue to exert restraint on firms' pricing decisions,
even with a diminution of competitive pressures from 2. Ranges for growth of monetary and debt aggregates
abroad. However, an already tight domestic labor Percent
market has tightened still further in recent months,
and bidding for workers, together with further Aggregate 1998 1999 2000
increases in health insurance costs that appear to be M2 1-5 1-5 1-5
coming, seems likely to keep nominal hourly com- M De 3 bt 2 3- - 7 6 3 2 - - 7 6 2 3 - - 6 7
pensation costs moving up at a relatively brisk pace.
NOTH. Change from average for fourth quarter of preceding year to average
To date, the increases in compensation have not had for fourth quarter of year indicated.
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Nonetheless, the Committee believes that money ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL DEVELOPMENTS
growth has some value as an economic indicator, and IN 1999 AND EARLY 2000
it will continue to monitor the monetary aggregates
among a wide variety of economic and financial data The U.S. economy retained considerable strength
to inform its policy deliberations. in 1999. According to the Commerce Department's
M2 increased 61A percent last year. With nominal advance estimate, the rise in real gross domestic
GDP rising 6 percent, M2 velocity fell a bit overall, product over the four quarters of the year exceeded
although it rose in the final two quarters of the year as 4 percent for the fourth consecutive year. The growth
market interest rates climbed relative to yields on M2 of household expenditures was bolstered by further
assets. Further increases in market interest rates early substantial gains in real income, favorable borrowing
this year could continue to elevate M2 velocity. Nev- terms, and a soaring stock market. Businesses seek-
ertheless, given the Committee's expectations for ing to maintain their competitiveness and profitability
nominal GDP growth, M2 could still be above the continued to invest heavily in high-tech equipment;
upper end of its range in 2000. external financing conditions in both debt and equity
M3 expanded 7'/2 percent last year, and its velocity markets were quite supportive. In the public sector,
fell about 1% percent, a much smaller drop than in further strong growth of revenues was accompanied
the previous year. Non-M2 components again exhib- by a step-up in the growth of government consump-
ited double-digit growth, with some of the strength tion and investment expenditures, the part of gov-
attributable to long-term trends and some to pre- ernment spending that enters directly into real GDP.
cautionary buildups of liquidity in advance of the The rapid growth of domestic demand gave rise to a
century date change. One important trend is the shift further huge increase in real imports of goods and
by nonfinancial businesses from direct holdings services in 1999. Exports picked up as foreign econo-
of money market instruments to indirect holdings mies strengthened, but the gain fell short of that for
through institution-only money funds; such shifts imports by a large margin. Available economic indi-
boost M3 at the same time they enhance liquidity for cators for January of this year show the U.S. economy
businesses. Money market funds and large certifi- continuing to expand, with labor demand robust and
cates of deposit also ballooned late in the year as a the unemployment rate edging down to its lowest
result of a substantial demand for liquidity around the level in thirty years.
century date change. Adjustments from the tempo- The combination of a strong U.S. economy and
rarily elevated level of M3 at the end of 1999 are improving economic conditions abroad led to firmer
likely to trim that aggregate's fourth-quarter-to- prices in some markets this past year. Industrial com-
fourth-quarter growth this year, but not sufficiently to modity prices turned up—sharply in some cases—
offset the downward trend in velocity. That trend, after having dropped appreciably in 1998. Oil prices,
together with the Committee's expectation for nomi- responding both to OPEC production restraint and to
nal GDP growth, will probably keep M3 above the the growth of world demand, more than doubled over
top end of its range again this year. the course of the year, and the prices of non-oil
Domestic nonfinancial debt grew 6'/2 percent in imports declined less rapidly than in previous years,
1999, near the upper end of the 3 percent to 7 percent jjiiiii
growth range the Committee established last Feb- Change in real GDP
ruary. This robust growth reflected large increases
in the debt of businesses and households that were
due to substantial advances in spending as well as to
debt-financed mergers and acquisitions. However, the
increase in private-sector debt was partly offset by a
substantial decline in federal debt. The Committee
left the range for debt growth in 2000 unchanged at
3 percent to 7 percent. After an aberrant period in the
1980s during which debt expanded much more rap-
idly than nominal GDP, the growth of debt has
returned to its historical pattern of about matching
the growth of nominal GDP over the past decade, and
the Committee members expect debt to remain within
its range again this year. 1991 1993 1995 1997 1999
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Change in PCE chain-type price index Change in real income and consumption
D Disposable personal income
Illlllhl • Personal consumption expenditures
I i i i i i i i i i i I I I I
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999
the past five years, a period during which yearly
when a rising dollar, as well as sluggish conditions gains in household net worth have averaged more
abroad, had pulled them lower. The higher oil prices than 10 percent in nominal terms and the ratio of
of 1999 translated into sharp increases in retail energy household wealth to disposable personal income has
prices and gave a noticeable boost to consumer prices moved up sharply.
overall; the chain-type price index for personal The strength of consumer spending this past
consumption expenditures rose 2 percent, double the year extended across a broad front. Appreciable gains
increase of 1998. Outside the energy sector, however, were reported for most types of durable goods.
consumer prices increased at about the same low rate Spending on motor vehicles, which had surged about
as in the previous year, even as the unemployment 131/2 percent in 1998, moved up another 5'/2 per-
rate continued to edge down. Rapid gains in pro- cent in 1999. The inflation-adjusted increases for
ductivity enabled businesses to offset a substantial furniture, appliances, electronic equipment, and other
portion of the increases in nominal compensation, household durables also were quite large, supported
thereby holding the rise of unit labor costs in check, in part by a strong housing market. Spending on ser-
vices advanced about 4'/2 percent in real terms, led by
and business pricing policies continued to be driven
to a large extent by the desire to maintain or increase sizable increases for recreation and personal business
market share at the expense of some slippage in unit services. Outlays for nondurables, such as food and
profits, albeit from a high level. clothing, also rose rapidly. Exceptional strength in
The Household Sector Wealth and saving
Personal consumption expenditures increased about
5'/2 percent in real terms in 1999, a second year of Wealth-to-income ratio1
exceptionally rapid advance. As in other recent years,
the strength of consumption in 1999 reflected sus-
tained increases in employment and real hourly pay,
which bolstered the growth of real disposable per-
sonal income. Added impetus came from another
year of rapid growth in net worth, which, coming on
top of the big gains of previous years, led households
in the aggregate to spend a larger portion of their
2 —
current income than they would have otherwise. The
personal saving rate, as measured in the national I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I
income and product accounts, dropped further, to an 1962 1968 1974 1980 1986 1992 1998
average of about 2 percent in the final quarter of 1. Ratio of net worth of households to disposable personal income. The data
extend through 1999:Q3.
1999; it has fallen about 4'/2 percentage points over 2. The data extend through 1999:Q4.
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Change in real residential investment multifamily units also were started, about the same
number as in each of the two previous years. House
Percent. Q4 to Q4
prices rose appreciably and, together with the new
investment, further boosted household net worth in
residential real estate.
The increases in consumption and residential
investment in 1999 were, in part, financed by an
expansion of household debt estimated at 9'/2 per-
li. ••!•
cent, the largest increase in more than a decade.
Mortgage debt, which includes the borrowing against
owner equity that may be used for purposes other
than residential investment, grew a whopping
10!/4 percent. Higher interest rates led to a sharp drop
in refinancing activity and prompted a shift toward
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 the use of adjustable-rate mortgages, which over the
year rose from 10 percent to 30 percent of origina-
tions. Consumer credit advanced 7'/4 percent, boosted
the purchases of some nondurables toward the end by heavy demand for consumer durables and other
of the year may have reflected precautionary buying big-ticket purchases. Credit supply conditions were
by consumers in anticipation of the century date also favorable; commercial banks reported in Federal
change; it is notable in this regard that grocery store Reserve surveys that they were more willing than in
sales were up sharply in December and then fell back the previous year or two to make consumer install-
in January, according to the latest report on retail ment loans and that they remained quite willing to
sales. make mortgage loans.
Households also continued to boost their expendi- The household sector's debt-service burden edged
tures on residential structures. After having surged up to its highest level since the late 1980s; however,
11 percent in 1998, residential investment rose about with employment rising rapidly and asset values
3'/4 percent over the four quarters of 1999, according escalating, measures of credit quality for household
to the advance estimate from the Commerce Depart- debt generally improved in 1999. Delinquency rates
ment. Moderate declines in investment in the second on home mortgages and credit cards declined a bit,
half of the year offset only part of the increases and those on auto loans fell more noticeably. Per-
recorded in the first half. As with consumption expen- sonal bankruptcy filings fell sharply after having
ditures, investment in housing was supported by the risen for several years to 1997 and remaining ele-
sizable advances in real income and household net vated in 1998.
worth, but this spending category was also tempered
a little by a rise in mortgage interest rates, which
likely was an important factor in the second-half Delinquency rates on household loans
downturn.
Nearly all the indicators of housing activity showed
upbeat results for the year. Annual sales of new and
existing homes reached new peaks in 1999, surpass-
ing the previous highs set in 1998. Although sales
dropped back a touch in the second half of the year,
their level through year-end remained quite high by
historical standards. Builders' backlogs also were at
high levels and helped support new construction ac-
tivity even as sales eased. Late in the year, reports
that shortages of skilled workers were delaying con-
struction became less frequent as building activity
wound down seasonally, but builders also continued
to express concern about potential worker shortages
in 2000. For 1999 in total, construction began on NOTK. The dala are quarterly. Data on credit-card delinquencies are from
more than 1.3 million single-family dwellings, the bank Call Reports: data on auto loan delinquencies are from the Big Three
automakers: data on mortgage delinquencies are from the Mortgage Bankers
most since the late 1970s; approximately 330,000
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The Business Sector nesses wanting to stand pat with existing systems
until after the turn of the year. Growth in computer
Private nonresidential fixed investment increased investment in the final quarter of 1999, just before the
7 percent during 1999, extending by another year a century rollover, was the smallest in several quarters.
long run of rapid growth in real investment outlays. Spending on other types of equipment rose moder-
Strength in capital investment has been underpinned ately, on balance, in 1999. Outlays for transportation
in recent years by the vigor of the business expan- equipment increased substantially, led by advances
sion, by the advance and spread of computer tech- in business purchases of motor vehicles and aircraft.
nologies, and by the ability of most businesses to By contrast, a sharp decline in spending on industrial
readily obtain funding through the credit and equity machinery early in the year held the yearly gain for
markets. that category to about 2 percent; over the final three
Investment in high-tech equipment continued to quarters of the year, however, outlays picked up
soar in 1999. Outlays for communications equipment sharply as industrial production strengthened.
rose about 25 percent over the course of the year, Private investment in nonresidential structures fell
boosted by a number of factors, including the expan- 5 percent in 1999 according to the advance estimate
sion of wireless communications, competition in tele- from the Commerce Department. Spending on struc-
phone markets, the continued spread of the Internet, tures had increased in each of the previous seven
and the demand of Internet users for faster access to years, rather briskly at times, and the level of invest-
it. Computer outlays rose nearly 40 percent in real ment, though down this past year, remained relatively
terms, and the purchases of computer software, which high and likely raised the real stock of capital
in the national accounts are now counted as part of invested in structures appreciably further. Real expen-
private fixed investment, rose about 13 percent; for ditures on office buildings, which have been climbing
both computers and software the increases were rapidly for several years, moved up further in 1999,
roughly in line with the annual average gains during to the highest level since the peak of the building
previous years of the expansion. boom of the 1980s. In contrast, investment in other
The timing of investment in high-tech equipment types of commercial structures, which had already
over the past couple of years was likely affected to regained its earlier peak, slipped back a little, on net,
some degree by business preparations for the century this past year. Spending on industrial structures,
date change. Many large businesses reportedly in- which accounts for roughly 10 percent of total real
vested most heavily in new computer equipment be- outlays on structures, fell for a third consecutive year.
fore the start of 1999 to leave sufficient time for their Outlays for the main types of institutional structures
systems to be tested well before the start of 2000; a also were down, according to the initial estimates.
very steep rise in computer investment in 1998 — Revisions to the data on nonresidential structures
roughly 60 percent in real terms — is consistent with often are sizable, and the estimates for each of the
those reports. Some of the purchases in preparation three years preceding 1999 have eventually shown a
for Y2K most likely spilled over into 1999, but the good bit more strength than was initially reported.
past year also brought numerous reports of busi- After increasing for two years at a rate of about
6 percent, nonfarm business inventories expanded
more slowly this past year—about 3'/4 percent
Change in real nonresidential fixed investment according to the advance GDP report. During the
year, some businesses indicated that they planned to
carry heavier stocks toward year-end to protect them-
Structures selves against possible Y2K disruptions, and the rate
Equipment and software
of accumulation did in fact pick up appreciably in the
fall. But business final sales remained strong, and the
Mil ratio of nonfarm stocks to final sales changed little,
holding toward the lower end of the range of the past
decade. With the ratio so low, businesses likely did
not enter the new year with excess stocks.
After slowing to a 1 percent rise in 1998, the
economic profits of U.S. corporations—that is, book
profits with inventory valuation and capital consump-
I II i ii i ii i tion adjustments—picked up in 1999. Economic prof-
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 its over the first three quarters of the year averaged
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Change in real private nonfarm inventories Before-tax profits as a share of GDP
Nonfinancial corporalio
iJII
1 I I I I II I I I I
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 1978 1981 1984 1987 1990 1993 19% 1999
NOTK. Profits from domestic operations, with inventory valuation and capital
consumption adjustments, divided by gross domestic product of nonfinancial
corporate sector. The data extend through I999.-Q3.
about 3'/2 percent above the level of a year earlier.
The earnings of corporations from their operations
outside the United States rebounded in 1999 from a ume substantially further over the past two years, but
brief but steep decline in the second half of 1998, profits per unit of output have dropped back some-
when financial market disruptions were affecting the what from their 1997 peak. As of the third quarter
world economy. The profits earned by financial cor- of last year, economic profits of nonfinancial corpo-
porations on their domestic operations also picked up rations amounted to slightly less than 11 '/> percent
after having been slowed in 1998 by the financial of the nominal output of these companies, compared
turmoil; growth of these profits in 1999 would have with a quarterly peak of about 12-V4 percent two years
been greater but for a large payout by insurance earlier.
companies to cover damage from Hurricane Floyd. The borrowing needs of nonfinancial corporations
The profits that nonfinancial corporations earned on remained sizable in 1999. Capital spending out-
their domestic operations in the first three quarters of stripped internal cash flow, and equity retirements
1999 were about 2'/2 percent above the level of a year that resulted from stock repurchases and a block-
earlier; growth of these earnings, which account for buster pace of merger activity more than offset record
about two-thirds of all economic profits, had slowed volumes of both seasoned and initial public equity
to just over 2 percent in 1998 after averaging 13 per- offerings. Overall, the debt of nonfinancial businesses
cent at a compound annual rate in the previous six grew 10'/> percent, down only a touch from its
years. Nonfinancial corporations have boosted vol- decade-high 1998 pace.
Gross corporate bond issuance
Millions ol dollars
D High yield
Investment grade
A S O N DJ F M A MJ J A S O N DJ
MOTH. Excludes unrated issues and is
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The strength in business borrowing was wide- in particular, exhibited upward pressure at this time.
spread across funding sources. Corporate bond The likelihood of year-end difficulties seemed to
issuance was robust, particularly in the first half of diminish in the fall, and spreads again retreated,
the year, though the markets' increased preference ending the year down on balance but generally above
for liquidity and quality, amid an appreciable rise the levels that had prevailed over the several years up
in defaults on junk bonds, left issuance of below - to mid-1998.
investment-grade securities down more than a quarter Federal Reserve surveys indicated that banks
from their record pace in 1998. The receptiveness of firmed terms and standards for commercial and indus-
the capital markets helped firms to pay down loans at trial loans a bit further, on balance, in 1999. In the
banks—which had been boosted to an 11% percent syndicated loan market, spreads for lower-rated bor-
gain in 1998 by the financial market turmoil that rowers also ended the year higher, on balance, after
year—and growth in these loans slowed to a more rising substantially in 1998. Spreads for higher-rated
moderate 5'/4 percent pace in 1999. The commercial borrowers were fairly steady through 1998 and early
paper market continued to expand rapidly, with 1999, widened a bit around midyear, and then fell
domestic nonfinancial outstandings rising 18 percent back to end the year about where they had started.
on top of the 14 percent gain in 1998. The ratio of net interest payments to cash flow for
Commercial mortgage borrowing was strong again nonfinancial firms remained in the low range it has
as well, as real estate prices generally continued occupied for the past few years, but many measures
to rise, albeit at a slower pace than in 1998, and of credit quality nonetheless deteriorated in 1999.
vacancy rates generally remained near historical Moody's Investors Service downgraded more non-
lows. The mix of lending shifted back to banks and financial debt issuers than it upgraded over the year,
life insurance companies from commercial mortgage- affecting a net $78 billion of debt. The problems that
backed securities, as conditions in the CMBS market, emerged in the bond market were concentrated
especially investor appetites for lower-rated tranches, mostly among borrowers in the junk sector, and partly
remained less favorable than they had been before the reflected a fallout from the large volume of issuance
credit market disruptions in the fall of 1998. and the generous terms available in 1997 and early
Risk spreads on corporate bonds seesawed during 1998; default rates on junk bonds rose to levels not
1999. Over the early part of the year, spreads reversed seen since the recession of 1990-91. Delinquency
part of the 1998 run-up as markets recovered. During rates on C&I loans at commercial banks ticked up in
the summer, they rose again in response to concerns 1999, albeit from very low levels, while the charge-
about market liquidity, expectations of a surge in off rate for those loans continued on its upward trend
financing before the century date change, and of the past several years. Business failures edged up
anticipated firming of monetary policy. Swap spreads, last year but remained in a historically low range.
Spreads of corporate bond yields
over Treasury security yields
Net interest payments of nonfinancial corporations
relative to cash flow
SONDJ FMAMJ JASONDJ F
19' 1999 2000
Noi>:. The data are daily. The spread of high-yield bonds compares the yield
>n the Merrill Lynch 175 index with that on a seven-year Treasury: the other
:wo spreads compare yields on the appropriate Merrill Lynch indexes with that
an a ten-year Treasury. Last observations are for February 11. 2000. MOTH. The data are quarterly and extend through 1999:Q3.
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Annual change in real government expenditures growth of these outlays has picked up appreciably as
on consumption and investment the expansion has lengthened.
At the federal level, expenditures in the unified
budget rose 3 percent in fiscal 1999, just a touch less
D Federal than the 3!/4 percent rise of the preceding fiscal year.
• State and local
Faster growth of nominal spending on items that are
included in consumption and investment was offset in
the most recent fiscal year by a deceleration in other
categories. Net interest outlays fell more than 5 per-
cent—enough to trim total spending growth about
% percentage point—and only small increases were
recorded in expenditures for social insurance and
income security, categories that together account for
nearly half of total federal outlays. In contrast, fed-
I I eral expenditures on Medicaid, after having slowed
in 1996 and 1997, picked up again in the past two
fiscal years. Spending on agriculture doubled in fiscal
The Government Sector 1999; the increase resulted both from a step-up in
payments under farm safety net programs that were
Buoyed by rapid increases in receipts and favorable retained in the "freedom to farm" legislation of 1996
budget balances, the combined real expenditures of and from more recent emergency farm legislation.
federal, state, and local governments on consumption Federal receipts grew 6 percent in fiscal 1999 after
and investment rose about 4% percent from the fourth increases that averaged close to 9 percent in the two
quarter of 1998 to the fourth quarter of 1999. Annual previous fiscal years. Net receipts from taxes on
data, which smooth through some of the quarterly individuals continued to outpace the growth of per-
noise that is often evident in government outlays, sonal income, but by less than in other recent years,
showed a gain in real spending of more than 3'/2 per- and receipts from corporate income taxes fell moder-
cent this past year, the largest increase of the expan- ately. Nonetheless, with total receipts growing faster
sion. Federal expenditures on consumption and than spending, the surplus in the unified budget con-
investment were up nearly 3 percent in annual terms; tinued to rise, moving from $69 billion in fiscal 1998
real defense expenditures, which had trended lower to $124 billion this past fiscal year. Excluding net
through most of the 1990s, rose moderately, and interest payments—a charge resulting from past
outlays for nondefense consumption and investment deficits—the federal government recorded a surplus
increased sharply. Meanwhile, the consumption and of more than $350 billion in fiscal 1999.
investment expenditures of state and local govern- Federal saving, a measure that results from a trans-
ments rose more than 4 percent in annual terms; lation of the federal budget surplus into terms consis-
tent with the national income and product accounts,
amounted to 2'/4 percent of nominal GDP in the first
Federal receipts and expenditures
three quarters of 1999, up from l'/2 percent in 1998
and '/2 percent in 1997. Before 1997, federal saving
had been negative for seventeen consecutive years,
Total expenditures by amounts exceeding 3 percent of nominal GDP in
several years—most recently in 1992. The change in
the federal government's saving position from 1992
to 1999 more than offset the sharp drop in the per-
sonal saving rate and helped lift national saving from
less than 16 percent of nominal GDP in 1992 and
1993 to a range of about 18!/a percent to 19 percent
over the past several quarters.
Federal debt growth has mirrored the turnabout in
the government's saving position. In the 1980s and
I I I I I I I I I I I I I I | I I I early 1990s, borrowing resulted in large additions
1984 1987 1990 1996 1999
to the volume of outstanding government debt. In
in N S O ep T t E em . T be h r e . data are from the unified budget and are for die fiscal year ended contrast, with the budget in surplus the past two
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National saving large volumes of debt. Alternate quarterly refunding
auctions of five- and ten-year notes and semiannual
Percent ol nominal GDI' auctions of thirty-year bonds will now be smaller
reopenings of existing issues rather than new issues.
Thirty-year TIIS will now be auctioned once a year
Excluding federal saving rather than twice, and the two auctions of ten-year
TIIS will be modestly reduced. Auctions of one-year
Treasury bills will drop from thirteen a year to four,
while weekly bill volumes will rise somewhat.
Finally, the Treasury plans to enter the market to buy
back in "reverse auctions" as much as $30 billion of
Total saving outstanding securities this year, beginning in March
or April.
State and local government debt expanded 4'/4 per-
cent in 1999, well off last year's elevated pace.
NOTH. National saving includes the gross saving of households, businesses, Borrowing for new capital investment edged up, but
and governments. The data extend through I999:Q3. the roughly full-percentage-point rise in municipal
bond yields over the year led to a sharp drop in
years, the Treasury has been paying down debt. With- advance refundings, which in turn pulled gross issu-
out the rise in federal saving and the reversal in ance below last year's level. Tax revenues continued
borrowing, interest rates in recent years likely would to grow at a robust rate, improving the financial
have been higher than they have been, and private condition of states and localities, as reflected in a
capital formation, a key element in the vigorous ratio of debt rating upgrades to downgrades of more
economic expansion, would have been lower, per- than three to one over the year. The surplus in the
haps appreciably. current account of state and local governments in the
The Treasury responded to its lower borrowing first three quarters of 1999 amounted to about '/2 per-
requirements in 1999 primarily by reducing the num- cent of nominal GDP, about the same as in 1998 but
ber of auctions of thirty-year bonds from three to two otherwise the largest of the past several years.
and by trimming auction sizes for notes and Treasury
inflation-indexed securities (TIIS). Weekly bill vol-
umes were increased from 1998 levels, however, to The External Sector
help build up cash holdings as a Y2K precaution. For
2000, the Treasury plans major changes in debt man- Trade and the Current Account
agement in an attempt to keep down the average
maturity of the debt and maintain sufficient auction U.S. external balances deteriorated in 1999 largely
sizes to support the liquidity and benchmark status of because of continued declines in net exports of goods
its most recently issued securities, while still retiring and services and some further weakening of net
investment income. The nominal trade deficit for
Federal government debt held by the public goods and services widened more than $100 billion
in 1999, to an estimated $270 billion, as imports
IVrccni ol nominal GDI' expanded faster than exports. For the first three quar-
ters of the year, the current account deficit increased
more than one-third, reaching $320 billion at an
annual rate, or 3'/2 percent of GDP. In 1998, the
current account deficit was 2'/2 percent of GDP.
Real imports of goods and services expanded
strongly in 1999—about 13 percent according to
preliminary estimates—as the rapid import growth
during the first half of the year was extended through
the second half. The expansion of real imports was
fueled by the continued strong growth of U.S. domes-
tic expenditures. Declines in non-oil import prices
through most of the year, partly reflecting previous
. The data are annual. dollar appreciation, contributed as well. All major
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U.S. current account Capital Account
IVrcem of nominal GDI'
U.S. capital flows in 1999 reflected the relatively
strong cyclical position of the US. economy and the
global wave of corporate mergers. Foreign purchases
of U.S. securities remained brisk—near the level of
the previous two years, in which they had been
elevated by the global financial unrest. The composi-
tion of foreign securities purchases in 1999 showed a
continued shift away from Treasuries, in part because
of the U.S. budget surplus and the decline in the
supply of Treasuries relative to other securities and,
perhaps, to a general increased tolerance of foreign
I II investors for risk as markets calmed after their tur-
981 1983 1985 1987 1989 1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 moil of late 1998. Available data indicate that private
. The observation for 1999 is the average for the first three quarters of foreigners sold on net about $20 billion in Trea-
suries, compared with net purchases of $50 billion in
1998 and $150 billion in 1997. These sales of Trea-
import categories other than aircraft and oil recorded suries were more than offset by a pickup in foreign
strong increases. While U.S. consumption of oil rose purchases of their nearest substitute—government
about 4 percent in 1999, the quantity of oil imported agency bonds—as well as corporate bonds and
was about unchanged, and inventories were drawn equities.
down. Foreign direct investment flows into the United
Real exports of goods and services rose an esti- States were also robust in 1999, with the pace of
mated 4 percent in 1999, a somewhat faster pace than inflows in the first three quarters only slightly below
in 1998. Economic activity abroad picked up, par- the record inflow set in 1998. As in 1998, direct
ticularly in Canada, Mexico, and Asian developing investment inflows last year were elevated by several
economies. However, the lagged effects of relative large mergers, which left their imprint on other parts
prices owing to past dollar appreciation held down of the capital account as well. In the past two years,
exports. An upturn in U.S. exports to Canada, many of the largest mergers have been financed by
Mexico, and key Asian emerging markets contrasted a swap of equity in the foreign acquiring firm for
with a much flatter pace of exports to Europe, Japan, equity in the U.S. firm being acquired. The Bureau
and South America. Capital equipment composed of Economic Analysis estimates that U.S. residents
about 45 percent of U.S. goods exports, industrial acquired more than $100 billion of foreign equity
supplies were 20 percent, and agricultural, automo- through this mechanism in the first three quarters of
tive, and consumer goods were each roughly 1999. Separate data on market transactions indicate
10 percent. that U.S. residents made net purchases of Japanese
equities. They also sold European equities, probably
in an attempt to rebalance portfolios in light of the
Change in real imports and exports of goods and services equity acquired through stock swaps. U.S. residents
on net purchased a small volume of foreign bonds in
K-ivcm.04toQ4
1999. U.S. direct investment in foreign economies
Imports also reflected the global wave of merger activity in
1999 and will likely total something near its record
level of 1998.
Available data indicate a return to sizable capital
inflows from foreign official sources in 1999, follow-
ing a modest outflow in 1998. The decline in foreign
official assets in the United States in 1998 was fairly
widespread, as many countries found their currencies
under unwanted downward pressure during the tur-
moil. By contrast, the increase in foreign official
I I 1 11 I I I I I I reserves in the United States in 1999 was fairly
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 concentrated in a relatively few countries that expert-
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enced unwanted upward pressure on their currencies Change in payroll employment
vis-a-vis the U.S. dollar.
Thousands iif johs. monthly average
The Labor Market .iliiin
As in other recent years, the rapid growth of aggre-
gate output in 1999 was associated with both strong
growth of productivity and brisk gains in employ-
ment. According to the initial estimate for 1999,
output per hour in the nonfarm business sector rose
3!/4 percent over the four quarters of the year, and
historical data were revised this past year to show
I i I i i i i I I I I
stronger gains than previously reported in the years
1991 1993 1995 1997 1999
preceding 1999. As the data stand currently, the aver-
age rate of rise in output per hour over the past four
years is about 23/4 percent—up from an average of
1 '/2 percent from the mid-1970s to the end of 1995. by many of the same categories that had been strong
Some of the step-up in productivity growth since in previous years—transportation and communica-
1995 can be traced to high levels of capital spending tions, computer services, engineering and manage-
and an accompanying faster rate of increase in the ment, recreation, and personnel supply. In the con-
amount of capital per worker. Beyond that, the causes struction sector, employment growth remained quite
are more difficult to pin down quantitatively but brisk—more than 4 percent from the final quarter of
are apparently related to increased technological 1998 to the final quarter of 1999. Manufacturing
and organizational efficiencies. Firms are not only employment, influenced by spillover from the disrup-
expanding the stock of capital but are also discover- tions in foreign economies, continued to decline
ing many new uses for the technologies embodied in sharply in the first half of the year, but losses there-
that capital, and workers are becoming more skilled after were small as factory production strengthened.
at employing the new technologies. Since the start of the expansion in 1991, the job count
The number of jobs on nonfarm payrolls rose in manufacturing has changed little, on net, but with
slightly more than 2 percent from the end of 1998 to factory productivity rising rapidly, manufacturing
the end of 1999, a net increase of 2.7 million. Annual output has trended up at a brisk pace.
job gains had ranged between 2'/4 percent and
23/4 percent over the 1996-98 period. Once again in
1999, the private service-producing sector accounted Measures of labor utilization
for most of the total rise in payroll employment, led
Change in output per hour
Augmented unemployment rate
Civilian unemployment rate
I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I
1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000
NOTK. The augmented unemployment rate is the number of unemployed plus
those who are not in the labor force and want a job. divided by the civilian labor
force plus those who are not in the labor force and want a job. The break in data
at January 1994 marks the introduction of a redesigned survey: data from that
point on are not directly comparable with those of earlier periods. The data
NOTE. Nonfarm business sector. extend through January 2000.
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In 1999, employers continued to face a tight labor Change in unit labor costs
market. Some increase in the workforce came from
the pool of the unemployed, and the jobless rate lViwni.Q4u>Q4
declined to an average of 4.1 percent in the fourth
quarter. In January 2000, the rate edged down to
4.0 percent, the lowest monthly reading since the
start of the 1970s. Because the unemployment rate
is a reflection only of the number of persons who
are available for work and actively looking, it does
not capture potential labor supply that is one step
removed—namely those individuals who are inter-
ested in working but are not actively seeking work at
the current time. However, like the unemployment
rate itself, an augmented rate that includes these
interested nonparticipants also has declined to a low
level, as more individuals have taken advantage NOTK. Nonfarm business sector.
of expanding opportunities to work.
Although the supply-demand balance in the labor about 4 percent in each of the two previous years.
market tightened further in 1999, the added pressure The hourly cost to employers of the non wage benefits
did not translate into bigger increases in nominal provided to employees also rose 3'/2 percent in 1999,
hourly compensation. The employment cost index for but this increase was considerably larger than those
hourly compensation of workers in private nonfarm of the past few years. Much of the pickup in benefit
industries rose 3.4 percent in nominal terms during costs came from a faster rate of rise in the costs of
1999, little changed from the increase of the previous health insurance, which were reportedly driven up by
year, and an alternative measure of hourly compensa- several factors: a moderate acceleration in the price
tion from the nonfarm productivity and cost data of medical care, the efforts of some insurers to rebuild
slowed from a 5'/4 percent increase in 1998 to a profit margins, and the recognition by employers that
4'/2 percent rise this past year. Compensation gains in an attractive health benefits package was helpful
1999 probably were influenced, in part, by the very in hiring and retaining workers in a tight labor
low inflation rate of 1998, which resulted in unex- market.
pectedly large increases in inflation-adjusted pay in Because the employment cost index does not cap-
that year and probably damped wage increments last ture some forms of compensation that employers
year. According to the employment cost index, the have been using more extensively—for example,
hourly wages of workers in private industry rose stock options, signing bonuses, and employee price
3'/2 percent in nominal terms after having increased discounts on in-store purchases—it has likely been
understating the true size of workers' gains. The
productivity and cost measure of hourly compensa-
tion captures at least some of the labor costs that the
Change in employment cost index employment cost index omits, and this broader cov-
erage may explain why the productivity and cost
Hourly compensation measure has been rising faster. However, it, too, is
affected by problems of measurement, some of which
would lead to overstatement of the rate of rise in
hourly compensation.
With the rise in output per hour in the nonfarm
business sector in 1999 offsetting about three-fourths
of the rise in the productivity and cost measure of
nominal hourly compensation, nonfarm unit labor
costs were up just a shade more than 1 percent. Unit
labor costs had increased slightly more than 2 percent
in both 1997 and 1998 and less than 1 percent in
1996. Because labor costs are by far the most impor-
tant item in total unit costs, these small increases
NOTE. Change from one year earlier. Private industry, excluding farm and
household workers. Data extend through December 1999. have been crucial to keeping inflation low.
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Alternative measures of price change but it rose 3 percent in 1999. A big swing in oil
prices—down in 1998 but up sharply in 1999—
accounted for a large part of this turnaround. Exclud-
ing oil, the prices of imported goods continued to fall
Chain-type in 1999 but, according to the initial estimate, less
Gross domestic product
Gross domestic purchases rapidly than over the three previous years, when
Per E s x on c a lu l d c i o n n g s f u o m o p d t i a o n n d e e x n p er e g n y d i . u . downward pressure from appreciation of the dollar
had been considerable. The prices of imported mate-
Fi.wJ-weight
Consumer price index rials and supplies rebounded, but the prices of im-
Excluding food and energy
ported capital goods fell sharply further. Meanwhile,
Noi>. Changes are based on quarterly averages and are measured to the the chain-type price index for exports increased 1 per-
fourth quarter of the year indicated from the fourth quarter of the preceding year.
cent in the latest year, reversing a portion of the
2'/2 percent drop of 1998, when the sluggishness of
Prices foreign economies and the strength of the dollar had
pressured U.S. producers to mark down the prices
Rates of increase in the broader measures of aggre- charged to foreign buyers.
gate prices in 1999 were somewhat larger than those Prices of domestically produced primary materials,
of 1998. The chain-type price index for GDP—which which tend to be especially sensitive to developments
measures inflation for goods and services produced in world markets, rebounded sharply in 1999. The
domestically—moved up about 1 '/> percent, a pickup producer price index for crude materials excluding
of !/2 percentage point from the increase of 1998. In food and energy advanced about 10 percent after
comparison, acceleration in various price measures having fallen about 15 percent in 1998, and the PPI
for goods and services purchased amounted to 1 per- for intermediate materials excluding food and energy
centage point or more: The chain-type price index for increased about 1 Vi percent, reversing a 1998 decline
personal consumption expenditures increased 2 per- of about that same size. But further along in the chain
cent, twice as much as in the previous year, and the of processing and distribution, the effects of these
chain-type price index for gross domestic purchases, increases were not very visible. The producer price
which measures prices of the aggregate purchases of index for finished goods excluding food and energy
consumers, businesses, and governments, moved up rose slightly less rapidly in 1999 than in 1998, and
close to 2 percent after an increase of just % percent the consumer price index for goods excluding food
in 1998. The consumer price index rose more than and energy rose at about the same low rate that it had
2'/2 percent over the four quarters of the year after in 1998. Large gains in productivity and a margin of
having increased 1 '/> percent in 1998. excess capacity in the industrial sector helped keep
The acceleration in the prices of goods and ser- prices of goods in check, even as growth of domestic
vices purchased was driven in part by a reversal in demand remained exceptionally strong.
import prices. In 1998, the chain-type price index for "Core" inflation at the consumer level—which
imports of goods and services had fallen 5 percent, takes account of the prices of services as well as the
prices of goods and excludes food and energy
Change in consumer prices prices—changed little in 1999. The increase in the
core index for personal consumption expenditures,
1 !/2 percent over the four quarters of the year, was
D Consumer price index about the same as the increase in 1998. As measured
• Chain-type price index for PCE by the CPI, core inflation was 2 percent this past year,
about '/4 percentage point lower than in 1998, but the
deceleration was a reflection of a change in CPI
methodology that had taken place at the start of last
year; on a methodologically consistent basis, the rise
in the core CPI was about the same in both years.
In the national accounts, the chain-type price index
for private fixed investment edged up '/4 percent in
1999 after having fallen about 3/4 percent in 1998.
With construction costs rising, the index for residen-
tial investment increased 33/4 percent, its largest
NOTE. Consumer price index for all urban c< advance in several years. By contrast, the price index
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Change in consumer prices excluding food and energy Selected Treasury rates, daily data
IVrvx-m. O4 ID O4
O Consumer price index Thirty-year
— • Chain-type price index for PCE Treasury
J FMAMJ J ASONDJ FMAMJ J ASONDJ F
No IK. Consumer price index for all urban consumers. 1998 1999 2000
NOTK. Last observations are for February 11. 2000.
for nonresidential investment declined moderately, as
a result of another drop in the index for equipment likelihood of outsized demands for credit and liquid-
and software. Falling equipment prices are one chan- ity over the year-end subsided, causing spreads to
nel through which faster productivity gains have been narrow, and stock prices surged once again. After
reshaping the economy in recent years; the drop in the century date change passed without disruptions,
prices has contributed to high levels of investment, liquidity improved and trading volumes grew,
rapid expansion of the capital stock, and a step-up in although both bond and equity prices have remained
the growth of potential output. quite volatile so far this year.
Interest Rates
US. Financial Markets
Over the first few months of 1999, short-term Trea-
Financial markets were somewhat unsettled as 1999 sury rates moved in a narrow range, anchored by
began, with the disruptions of the previous autumn an unchanged stance of monetary policy. Yields on
still unwinding and the devaluation of the Brazilian intermediate- and long-term Treasury securities rose,
real causing some jitters around mid-January. How- however, as the flight to quality and liquidity of the
ever, market conditions improved into the spring, preceding fall unwound, and incoming data pointed
evidenced in part by increased trading volumes and
narrowed bid-asked and credit spreads, as it became
increasingly evident that strong growth was continu- Selected Treasury rates, quarterly data
ing in the United States, and that economies abroad
were rebounding. In this environment, market partici-
pants began to anticipate that the Federal Reserve
would reverse the policy easings of the preceding
fall, and interest rates rose. Nevertheless, improved
profit expectations apparently more than offset the
interest rate increases, and equity prices continued to
climb until late spring. From May into the fall, both
equity prices and longer-term interest rates moved in
a choppy fashion, while short-term interest rates
moved up with monetary policy tightenings in June,
August, and November. Worries about Y2K became
pronounced after midyear, and expectations of an
acceleration of borrowing ahead of the fourth quarter
prompted a resurgence in liquidity and credit premi- NOTE. The twenty-year Treasury bond rate is shown until the first issuance of
the thirty-year Treasury bond in February 1977. The data extend through the
ums. In the closing months of the year, however, the fourth quarter of 1999.
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to continued robust economic growth and likely Fed- measured as the implied forward rate for a monthlong
eral Reserve tightening. Over most of the rest of the period spanning the turn relative to the rate for a
year, short-term Treasury rates moved broadly in line neighboring period—rose earlier and reached much
with the three quarter-point increases in the target higher levels than in recent years.
federal funds rate; longer-term yields rose less, as Those year-end premiums peaked in late October
markets had already anticipated some of those policy and then declined substantially, as markets reflected
actions. increased confidence in technical readiness and spe-
Bond and note yields moved sharply higher from cial assurances from central banks that sufficient
early November 1999 to mid-January 2000, as Y2K liquidity would be available around the century date
fears diminished, incoming data indicated surprising change. Important among these assurances were sev-
economic vitality, and the century date change was eral of the Federal Reserve initiatives described in the
negotiated without significant technical problems. first section of this report. Securities dealers took
In recent weeks, long-term Treasury yields have particular advantage of the widened pools of accept-
retraced a good portion of that rise on expectations able collateral for open market operations and used
of reduced supply stemming from the Treasury's new large volumes of federal agency debt and mortgage-
buy back program and reductions in the amount of backed securities in repurchase agreements with the
bonds to be auctioned. This rally has been mostly Open Market Desk in the closing weeks of the year,
confined to the long end of the Treasury market; which helped to relieve a potential scarcity of Trea-
long-term corporate bond yields have fallen only sury collateral over the turn. Market participants also
slightly, and yields are largely unchanged or have purchased options on nearly $500 billion worth of
risen a little further at maturities of ten years or less, repurchase agreements under the standby financing
where most private borrowing is concentrated. facility and pledged more than $650 billion of collat-
Concerns about liquidity and credit risk around the eral for borrowing at the discount window. With the
century date change led to large premiums in private smooth rollover, however, none of the RP options
money market rates in the second half of 1999. were exercised, and borrowing at the discount win-
During the summer, this "safe haven" demand held dow turned out to be fairly light.
down rates on Treasury bills maturing early in the
new year, until the announcement in August that the
Treasury was targeting an unusually large year-end
Equity Prices
cash balance, implying that it would issue a substan-
tial volume of January-dated cash management bills.
Nearly all major stock indexes ended 1999 in record
Year-end premiums in eurodollar, commercial paper,
territory. The Nasdaq composite index paced the
term federal funds, and other money markets—
advance by soaring 86 percent over the year, and the
S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average posted
Eurodollar deposit forward premium over year-end still-impressive gains of 20 percent and 25 percent.
Major stock price indexes
Index (January 4. 1999 =
Oct. Nov. Dec.
No IK. The data are daily. For October the forward premiums are one-month
forward rates two months ahead less one-month forward rates one month ahead:
for November they are one-month forward rates one month ahead less one- J FMAMJ JASONDJFMAMJ JASONDJF
month deposit rates: and for December they are three-week forward rates one 1998 1999 2000
week ahead less one-week deposit rates. The December forward premiums
extend into the third week of December. NOTE. The data are daily. Last observations are for February 11. 2000.
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Equity valuation and long-term real interest rate Domestic nonfinancial debt: Annual range and actual level
1980 1984 1988 1992 1996 2000 O N DJ F M A MJ J A S O N DJ
No IK. The data are monthly and extend through January 2000. The earnings- 1998 1999 2000
price ratio is based on the I/B/E/S International. Inc.. consensus estimate of
earnings over the coming twelve months. The real interest rate is the yield on the
ten-year Treasury note less the ten-year inflation expectations from the Federal
Reserve Bank of Philadelphia Survey of Professional Forecasters. from an already-slim 1 '/4 percent to '/2 percent, sug-
gesting that investors are pricing in expectations of
Last year was the fifth consecutive year that all three tremendous earnings growth at technology firms rela-
indexes posted double-digit returns. Most stock tive to historical norms.
indexes moved up sharply over the first few months
of the year and were about flat on net from May
through August; they then declined into October Debt and the Monetary Aggregates
before surging in the final months of the year. The
Nasdaq index, in particular, achieved most of its Debt and Depository Intermediation
annual gains in November and December. Stock price
advances in 1999 were not very broad-based, how- The debt of domestic nonfinancial sectors is esti-
ever: More than half of the S&P 500 issues lost value mated to have grown 6!/2 percent in 1999 on a
over the year. So far in 2000, stock prices have been fourth-quarter-to-fourth-quarter basis, near the upper
volatile and mixed; major indexes currently span a end of the FOMC's 3 percent to 7 percent range and
range from the Dow's nearly 10 percent drop to the about a percentage point faster than nominal GDP. As
Nasdaq's 8 percent advance. was the case in 1998, robust outlays on consumer
Almost all key industry groups performed well. durable goods, housing, and business investment,
One exception was shares of financial firms, which as well as substantial net equity retirements, helped
were flat, on balance. Investor perceptions that rising sustain nonfederal sector debt growth at rates above
interest rates would hurt earnings and, possibly, con-
cern over loan quality apparently offset the boost
Domestic nonfinancial debt as a percentage of nominal GDP
resulting from passage in the fall of legislation
reforming the depression-era Glass-Steagall con-
straints on combining commercial banking with
insurance and investment banking. Small-cap stocks,
which had lagged in 1998, also performed well; the
Russell 2000 index climbed 20 percent over the year
and finally surpassed its April 1998 peak in late
December.
At large firms, stock price gains about kept pace
with expected earnings growth in 1999, and the
S&P 500 one-year-ahead earnings-price ratio fluc-
tuated around the historically low level of 4 per-
cent even as real interest rates rose. Meanwhile, the
Nasdaq composite index's earnings-price ratio (using
actual twelve-month trailing earnings) plummeted
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9 percent. Meanwhile, the dramatically increased M3: Annual range and actual level
federal budget surplus allowed the Treasury to reduce
its outstanding debt about 2 percent. These move- Trillions ol dollars
ments follow the pattern of recent years whereby
increases in the debt of households, businesses, and
state and local governments relative to GDP have
come close to matching declines in the federal gov-
ernment share, consistent with reduced pressure on
available savings from the federal sector facilitating
private borrowing.
After increasing for several years, the share of total
credit accounted for by depository institutions lev-
eled out in 1999. Growth in credit extended by those
institutions edged down to 6!/2 percent from 6% per-
cent in 1998. Adjusted for mark-to-market account-
O N D J F M A M J J A S O N DJ
ing rules, bank credit growth retreated from 10'/4 per-
1998 1999 2000
cent in 1998 to 5'/2 percent last year, with a con-
siderable portion of the slowdown attributable to
an unwinding of the surge in holdings of non-US, The Monetary Aggregates
government securities, business loans, and security
loans that had been built up during the market disrup- Growth of the broad monetary aggregates moderated
tions in the fall of 1998. Real estate loans constituted significantly last year. Nevertheless, as was expected
one of the few categories of bank credit that acceler- by the FOMC last February and July, both M2
ated in 1999. By contrast, thrift credit swelled 9 per- and M3 finished the year above their annual price-
cent, up from a 4!/2 percent gain in 1998, as rising stability ranges. M3 rose 7'/2 percent in 1999, some-
mortgage interest rates led borrowers to opt more what outside the Committee's range of 2 percent
frequently for adjustable-rate mortgages, which to 6 percent but far below the nearly 11 percent
thrifts tend to keep on their books. The trend toward pace of 1998. M3 growth retreated early in 1999, as
securitization of consumer loans continued in 1999: the surge in depository credit in the final quarter of
Bank originations of consumer loans were up about 1998 unwound and depository institutions curbed
5 percent, while holdings ran off at a l?/4 percent their issuance of the managed liabilities included
pace. in that aggregate. At that time, the expansion of
4. Growth of money and debt
Percent
Period Ml M2 MM- , non D fin o a m nc e i s a t l ic debt
Annual'
1989 .3 5.2 4.1 7.4
1990 4.2 4.2 1.9 7
1991 3.1 I.I 5
1992 14 1 8 6 5
1993 10 1.4 1.0 9
1994 .6 1.7 9
1995 -1 3.9 6.1 5
1996 -4 4.5 6.8 4
1997 5.6 8.9 2
1998 2 8.5 10.9 7
1999 6.2 7.5 6
Quarterly- (annual rate)-
19991 75 82 67
2 2 6.0 6.0 6.9
1 55 5 1 60
5 5.4 10.0 6.2
NOTE. Ml consists of currency, travelers checks, demand deposits, and other standing credit market debt of the U.S. government, state and local govern-
checkable deposits. M2 consists of Ml plus savings deposits (including money ments, households and nonprofit organizations, nonfinancial businesses, and
market deposit accounts), small-denomination time deposits, and balances in farms.
retail money market funds. M3 consists of M2 plus large-denomination time 1. From average for fourth quarter of preceding year to average for fourth
deposits, balances in institutional money market funds. RP liabilities (overnight quarter of year indicated.
and term), and eurodollars (overnight and term). Debt consists of the out- 2. From average for preceding quarter to average for quarter indicated.
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M2: Annual range and actual level in the year. Early in 2000, these effects began to
unwind.
Trillions of dollars M2 increased 6J/4 percent in 1999, somewhat above
the FOMCs range of 1 percent to 5 percent. Both the
easing of elevated demands for liquid assets that had
boosted M2 in the fourth quarter of 1998 and a rise
in its opportunity cost (the difference between inter-
est rates on short-term market instruments and the
rates available on M2 assets) tended to bring down
M2 growth in 1999. That rise in opportunity cost also
helped to halt the decline in M2 velocity that had
begun in mid-1997, although the 1% percent (annual
rate) rise in velocity over the second half of 1999 was
not enough to offset the drop in the first half of the
year. Within M2, currency demand grew briskly over
O N DJ F M A MJ J A S O N DJ
1998 1999 2000 the year as a whole, reflecting booming retail sales
and, late in the year, some precautionary buildup for
Y2K. Money stock currency grew at an annualized
institution-only money funds also slowed with the rate of 28 percent in December and then ran off in the
ebbing of heightened preferences for liquid assets. weeks after the turn of the year.
However, M3 bulged again in the fourth quarter In anticipation of a surge in the public's demand
of 1999, as loan growth picked up and banks for currency, depository institutions vastly expanded
funded the increase mainly with large time deposits their holdings of vault cash, beginning in the fall
and other managed liabilities in M3. U.S. bran- to avoid potential constraints in the ability of the
ches and agencies of foreign banks stepped up issu- armored car industry to accommodate large currency
ance of large certificates of deposit, in part to aug- shipments late in the year. Depositories' cash draw-
ment the liquidity of their head offices over the ings reduced their Federal Reserve balances and
century date change, apparently because it was drained substantial volumes of reserves, and, in mid-
cheaper to fund in U.S. markets. Domestic banks December, large precautionary increases in the Trea-
needed the additional funding because of strong loan sury's cash balance and in foreign central banks'
growth and a buildup in vault cash for Y2K contin- liquid investments at the Federal Reserve did as well.
gencies. Corporations apparently built up year-end The magnitude of these flows was largely anticipated
precautionary liquidity in institution-only money by the System, and, to replace the lost reserves,
funds, which provided a further boost to M3 late during the fourth quarter the Desk entered into a
number of longer-maturity repurchase agreements
timed to mature early in 2000. The Desk also
M2 velocity and the opportunity cost of holding M2
executed a large number of short-term repurchase
Ratio scale Ptttunta|>c points, ratio scale transactions for over the turn of the year, including
some in the forward market, to provide sufficient
reserves and support market liquidity.
The public's demand for currency through year-
end, though appreciable, remained well below the
level for which the banking system was prepared, and
vault cash at the beginning of January stood about
$38 billion above its year-ago level. This excess vault
cash, and other century date change effects in money
and reserve markets, unwound quickly after the
smooth transition into the new year.
I I I
1989
International Developments
No IK. The data are quarterly and extend through 1999:Q4. The velocity of
M2 is the ratio of nominal gross domestic product to the stock of M2. The
opportunity cost of M2 is a two-quarter moving average of the difference Global economic conditions improved in 1999 after a
between the three-month Treasury bill rate and the weighted average return on
assets included in M2. year of depressed growth and heightened financial
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market instability. Financial markets in developing was maintained only at the cost of continued high
countries, which had been hit hard by crises in Asia real interest rates that contributed to the decline in
and Russia in recent years, recovered last year. The real GDP in 1999. In contrast, real GDP in Mexico
pace of activity in developing countries increased, rose an estimated 6 percent in 1999, aided by higher
with Asian emerging-market economies in particular oil prices and strong export growth to the United
bouncing back strongly from the output declines of States. The peso appreciated against the dollar for the
the preceding year. Real growth improved in almost year as a whole, despite a Mexican inflation rate
all the major industrial economies as well. This about 10 percentage points higher than in the United
strengthening of activity contributed to a general rise States.
in equity prices and a widespread increase in interest The recovery of activity last year in Asian devel-
rates. Despite stronger activity and higher prices for oping countries was earlier, more widespread, and
oil and other commodities, average foreign inflation sharper than in Latin America, just as the downturn
was lower in 1999 than in 1998, as output remained had been the previous year. After a steep drop in
below potential in most countries. activity in the immediate wake of the financial crises
Although the general theme in emerging financial that hit several Asian emerging-market economies in
markets in 1999 was a return to stability, the year late 1997, the preconditions for a revival in activity
began with heightened tension as a result of a finan- were set by measures initiated to stabilize shaky
cial crisis in Brazil. With the effects of the August financial markets and banking sectors, often in con-
1998 collapse of the ruble and the default on Russian junction with International Monetary Fund programs
government debt still reverberating, Brazil was that provided financial support. Once financial condi-
forced to abandon its exchange-rate-based stabiliza- tions had been stabilized, monetary policies turned
tion program in January 1999. The real, allowed to accommodative in 1998, and this stimulus, along
float, soon fell nearly 50 percent against the dollar, with the shift toward fiscal deficits and an ongoing
generating fears of a depreciation-inflation spiral that boost to net exports provided by the sharp deprecia-
could return Brazil to its high-inflation past. In addi- tions of their currencies, laid the foundation for last
tion, there were concerns that the government might year's strong revival in activity. Korea's recovery
default on its domestic-currency and dollar-indexed was the most robust, with real GDP estimated to have
debt, the latter totaling more than $50 billion. In the increased more than 10 percent in 1999 after falling
event, these fears proved unfounded. The turning 5 percent the previous year. The government contin-
point appears to have come in March when a new ued to make progress toward needed financial and
central bank governor announced that fighting infla- corporate sector reform. However, significant weak-
tion was a top priority and interest rates were substan- nesses remained, as evidenced by the near collapse of
tially raised to support the real. Over the remainder Daewoo, Korea's second largest conglomerate. Other
of the year, Brazilian financial markets stabilized Asian developing countries that experienced financial
on balance, despite continuing concerns about the difficulties in late 1997 (Thailand, Malaysia, Indone-
government's ability to reduce the fiscal deficit. Infla- sia, and the Philippines) also recorded increases in
tion, although accelerating from the previous year, real GDP in 1999 after declines the previous year.
remained under 10 percent. Brazilian economic activ- Indonesian financial markets were buffeted severely
ity also recovered somewhat in 1999, after declining at times during 1999 by concerns about political
in 1998, as the return of confidence allowed officials instability, but the rupiah ended the year with a
to lower short-term interest rates substantially from modest net appreciation against the dollar. The other
their crisis-related peak levels of early in the year. former crisis countries also saw their currencies stabi-
The Brazilian crisis triggered some renewed finan- lize or slightly appreciate against the dollar. Inflation
cial stress in other Latin American economies, and rates in these countries generally declined, despite the
domestic interest rates and Brady bond yield spreads pickup in activity and higher prices for oil and other
increased sharply from levels already elevated by commodities. Inflation was held down by the ele-
the Russian crisis. However, as the situation in vated, if diminishing, levels of excess capacity and
Brazil improved, financial conditions in the rest of unemployment and by a waning of the inflationary
the region stabilized relatively rapidly. Even so, the impact of previous exchange rate depreciations.
combination of elevated risk premiums and dimin- In China, real growth slowed moderately in 1999.
ished access to international credit markets tended to Given China's exchange rate peg to the dollar, the
depress activity in much of the region in the first half sizable depreciations elsewhere in Asia in 1997 and
of 1999. Probably the most strongly affected was 1998 led to a sharp appreciation of China's real
Argentina, where the exchange rate peg to the dollar effective exchange rate, and there was speculation
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last year that the renminbi might be devalued. How- further rise in U.S. external deficits—with the U.S.
ever, with China's trade balance continuing in sub- current account deficit moving up toward 4 percent of
stantial, though reduced, surplus, Chinese officials GDP by the end of the year—may have tended to
maintained the exchange rate peg to the dollar last hold down the dollar because of investor concerns
year and stated their intention of extending it through that the associated strong net demand for dollar assets
at least this year. After the onset of the Asian finan- might prove unsustainable. So far this year, the dol-
cial crisis, continuance of Hong Kong's currency- lar's average exchange value has increased slightly,
board-maintained peg to the U.S. dollar was also boosted by new evidence of strong U.S. growth.
questioned. In the event, the tie to the dollar was Against the currencies of the major foreign industrial
sustained, but only at the cost of high real interest countries, the dollar's most notable movements in
rates, which contributed to a decrease in output in 1999 were a substantial depreciation against the Japa-
Hong Kong in 1998 and early 1999 and a decline of nese yen and a significant appreciation relative to the
consumer prices over this period. However, real GDP euro.
started to move up again later in the year, reflecting in The dollar depreciated 10 percent on balance
part the strong revival of activity in the rest of Asia. against the yen over the course of 1999. In the first
In Russia, economic activity increased last year half of the year, the dollar strengthened slightly rela-
despite persistent and severe structural problems. tive to the yen, as growth in Japan appeared to remain
Real GDP, which had dropped nearly 10 percent in sluggish and Japanese monetary authorities reduced
1998 as a result of the domestic financial crisis, short-term interest rates to near zero in an effort to
recovered about half the loss last year. Net exports jumpstart the economy. However, around mid-year,
rose strongly, boosted by the lagged effect of the several signs of a revival of activity—particularly the
substantial real depreciation of the ruble in late 1998 announcement of unanticipated strong growth in real
and by higher oil prices. The inflation rate moderated GDP in the first quarter—triggered a depreciation of
to about 50 percent, somewhat greater than the depre- the dollar relative to the yen amid reports of large
ciation of the ruble over the course of the year. inflows of foreign capital into the Japanese stock
The dollar's average foreign exchange value, mea- market. Data releases showing that the U.S. current
sured on a trade-weighted basis against the currencies account deficit had reached record levels in both the
of a broad group of important U.S. trading partners, second and third quarters of the year also appeared to
ended 1999 little changed from its level at the begin- be associated with depreciations of the dollar against
ning of the year. There appeared to be two main, the yen. Concerned that a stronger yen could harm
roughly offsetting, pressures on the dollar last year. the fledgling recovery, Japanese monetary authorities
On the one hand, the continued very strong growth of intervened heavily to weaken the yen on numerous
the U.S. economy relative to foreign economies occasions. So far this year, the dollar has firmed
tended to support the dollar. On the other hand, the
U.S. dollar exchange rate against the Japanese yen
Nominal dollar exchange rate indexes and the euro
Index. January 1997 = 100 Index. January 1997 = 100
_J | _J |
1997 1998 1999 1997 1998 1999
NOTE. The data are monthly. Indexes are trade-weighted averages of the NOTE. The data are monthly. Restated German mark is the dollar-mark
exchange value of die dollar against major currencies and against the currencies exchange rate reseated by the official conversion factor between the mark and
of a broad group of important US. trading partners. Last observations are for the the euro, 1.95583. through December 1998. Euro exchange rate as of January
first two weeks of February 2000. 1999. Last observations are for the first two weeks of February 2000.
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about 7 percent against the yen. Japanese real GDP 25 basis points earlier this month. The euro-area
increased somewhat in 1999, following two consecu- inflation rate edged up in 1999, boosted by higher oil
tive years of decline. Growth was concentrated in the prices, but still remained below the 2 percent target
first half of the year, when domestic demand surged, ceiling.
led by fiscal stimulus. Later in the year, domestic Growth in the United Kingdom also moved higher
demand slumped, as the pace of fiscal expansion on balance in 1999, with growth picking up over the
flagged. Net exports made virtually no contribution course of the year. Along with the strengthening of
to growth for the year as a whole. Japanese consumer global demand, the recovery was stimulated by a
prices declined slightly on balance over the course of series of official interest rate reductions, totaling
the year. 250 basis points, undertaken by the Bank of England
The new European currency, the euro, came into over the last half of 1998 and the first half of 1999.
operation at the start of 1999, marking the beginning Later in 1999 and early this year, the policy rate was
of stage three of European economic and monetary raised four times for a total of 100 basis points, with
union. The rates of exchange between the euro and officials citing the need to keep inflation below its
the currencies of the eleven countries adopting the 2'/2 percent target level in light of the strength of
new currency were set at the end of 1998; based on consumption and the housing market and continuing
these rates, the value of the euro at its creation was tight conditions in the labor market. On balance, the
just under $1.17. From a technical perspective, the dollar appreciated slightly against the pound over the
introduction of the euro went smoothly, and on its course of 1999.
first day of trading its value moved higher. However, In Canada, real growth recovered in 1999 after
the euro soon started to weaken against the dollar, slumping the previous year in response to the global
influenced by indications that euro-area growth slowdown and the related drop in the prices of Cana-
would remain very slow. After approaching parity dian commodity exports. Last year, strong demand
with the dollar in early July, the euro rebounded, from the United States spurred Canadian exports
partly on gathering signs of European recovery. How- while rising consumer and business confidence sup-
ever, the currency weakened again in the fall, and in ported domestic demand. In the spring, the Bank of
early December it reached parity with the dollar, Canada lowered its official interest rate twice for a
about where it closed the year. The euro's weakness total of 50 basis points in an effort to stimulate
late in the year was attributed in part to concerns activity in the context of a rising Canadian dollar.
about the pace of market-oriented structural reforms This decline was reversed by 25-basis-point increases
in continental Europe and to a political wrangle over near the end of the year and earlier this month, as
the proposed imposition of a withholding tax on Canadian inflation moved above the midpoint of its
investment income. On balance, the dollar appreci- target range, the pace of output growth increased, and
ated 16 percent relative to the euro over 1999. So U.S. interest rates moved higher. Over the course of
far this year, the dollar has strengthened 2 percent 1999, the U.S. dollar depreciated 6 percent on bal-
further against the euro. Although the euro's for- ance against the Canadian dollar.
eign exchange value weakened in its first year Concerns about liquidity and credit risk related to
of operation, the volume of euro-denominated the century date change generated a temporary bulge
transactions—particularly the issuance of debt in year-end premiums in money market rates in the
securities—expanded rapidly. second half of the year in some countries. For the
In the eleven European countries that now fix their euro, borrowing costs for short-term interbank fund-
currencies to the euro, real GDP growth remained ing over the year changeover—as measured by the
weak early in 1999 but strengthened subsequently interest rate implied by the forward market for a
and averaged an estimated 3 percent rate for the year one-month loan spanning the year-end relative to the
as a whole. Net exports made a significant positive rates for neighboring months—started to rise in late
contribution to growth, supported by a revival of summer but then reversed nearly all of this increase
demand in Asia and Eastern Europe and by the in late October and early November before mov-
effects of the euro's depreciation. The area wide ing up more moderately in December. The sharp
unemployment rate declined, albeit to a still-high rate October-November decline in the year-changeover
of nearly 10 percent. In the spring, the European funding premium came in response to a series of
central bank lowered its policy rate 50 basis points, to announcements by major central banks that outlined
2'/2 percent. This decline was reversed later in the and clarified the measures these institutions were
year in reaction to accumulating evidence of a pickup prepared to undertake to alleviate potential liquidity
in activity, and the rate was raised an additional problems related to the century date change. For yen
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Forward premium for deposits over year-end Foreign ten-year interest rates
Noi>.. The data are monthly. Last observation is for the first two weeks of
February 2000.
Equity prices showed strong and widespread
increases in 1999, as the pace of global activity
quickened and the threat from emerging-market
financial crises appeared to recede. In the industrial
countries equity prices on average rose sharply,
extending the general upward trend of recent years.
The average percentage increase of equity prices in
developing countries was even larger, as prices recov-
Aug. Sept.
1999 ered from their crisis-related declines of the previ-
NOTE. The data are daily. Year-end premium measured by the interest rate on ous year. The fact that emerging Latin American and
a one-month instrument spanning the year-end relative to the rates for neighbor- Asian equity markets outperformed those in indus-
ing months. Last observation is for December 29. 1999. trial countries lends some support to the view that
global investors increased their risk tolerance, espe-
funding, the century date change premium moved in
cially during the last months of the year.
a different pattern, fluctuating around a relatively low Oil prices increased dramatically during 1999, fully
level before spiking sharply for several days just
reversing the declines in the previous two years. The
before the year-end. The late-December jump in the
average spot price for West Texas intermediate, the
yen funding premium was partly in response to date
change-related illiquidity in the Japanese government
bond repo market that emerged in early December Foreign equity indexes
and persisted into early January. To counter these
conditions, toward the end of the year the Bank of
Japan infused huge amounts of liquidity into its
domestic banking system, which soon brought short-
term yen funding costs back down to near zero.
Bond yields in the major foreign industrial coun-
tries generally moved higher on balance in 1999.
Long-term interest rates were boosted by mounting
evidence that economic recovery was taking hold
abroad and by rising expectations of monetary tight-
ening in the United States and, later, in other indus-
trial countries. Over the course of the year, long-term
Developing Asia
interest rates increased on balance by more than
100 basis points in nearly all the major industrial
countries. The notable exception was Japan, where
NOTE. The data are monthly. Last observation is for the first t>
long-term rates were little changed. February 2000.
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U.S. benchmark crude, more than doubled, from further on speculation over a possible extension of
around $12 per barrel at the beginning of the year to current OPEC production targets and the onset of
more than $26 per barrel in December. This rebound unexpectedly cold weather in key consuming regions.
in oil prices was driven by a combination of strength- The price of gold fluctuated substantially in 1999.
ening world demand and constrained world supply. The price declined to near a twenty-year low of about
The strong U.S. economy, combined with a recovery $250 per ounce at mid-year as several central banks,
of economic activity abroad and a somewhat more including the Bank of England and the Swiss
normal weather pattern, led to a 2 percent increase National Bank, announced plans to sell a sizable
in world oil consumption. Oil production, on the portion of their reserves. The September announce-
other hand, declined 2 percent, primarily because of ment that fifteen European central banks, including
reduced supplies from OPEC and other key produc- the two just mentioned, would limit their aggregate
ers. Starting last spring, OPEC consistently held pro- sales of bullion and curtail leasing activities, saw the
duction near targeted levels, in marked contrast to the price of gold briefly rise above $320 per ounce before
widespread lack of compliance that characterized ear- turning down later in the year. Recently, the price has
lier agreements. So far this year, oil prices have risen moved back up, to above $300 per ounce.
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Statement of
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Committee on Banking and Financial Services
U.S. House of Representatives
February 17,2000
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I appreciate this opportunity to present the Federal Reserve's semiannual report on the
economy and monetary policy.
There is little evidence that the American economy, which grew more than 4 percent in
1999 and surged forward at an even faster pace in the second half of the year, is slowing
appreciably. At the same time, inflation has remained largely contained. An increase in the
overall rate of inflation in 1999 was mainly a result of higher energy prices. Importantly, unit
labor costs actually declined in the second half of the year. Indeed, still-preliminary data indicate
that total unit cost increases last year remained extraordinarily low, even as the business
expansion approached a record nine years. Domestic operating profit margins, after sagging for
eighteen months, apparently turned up again in the fourth quarter, and profit expectations for
major corporations for the first quarter have been undergoing upward revisions since the
beginning of the year-scarcely an indication of imminent economic weakness.
The Economic Forces at Work
Underlying this performance, unprecedented in my half-century of observing the
American economy, is a continuing acceleration in productivity. Nonfarm business output per
workhour increased 3-1/4 percent during the past year-likely more than 4 percent when
measured by nonfarm business income. Security analysts' projections of long-term earnings, an
indicator of expectations of company productivity, continued to be revised upward in January,
extending a string of upward revisions that began in early 1995. One result of this remarkable
economic performance has been a pronounced increase in living standards for the majority of
Americans. Another has been a labor market that has provided job opportunities for large
numbers of people previously struggling to get on the first rung of a ladder leading to training,
skills, and permanent employment.
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Yet those profoundly beneficial forces driving the American economy to competitive
excellence are also engendering a set of imbalances that, unless contained, threaten our
continuing prosperity. Accelerating productivity entails a matching acceleration in the potential
output of goods and services and a corresponding rise in real incomes available to purchase the
new output. The problem is that the pickup in productivity tends to create even greater increases
in aggregate demand than in potential aggregate supply. This occurs principally because a rise in
structural productivity growth has its counterpart in higher expectations for long-term corporate
earnings. This, in turn, not only spurs business investment but also increases stock prices and the
market value of assets held by households, creating additional purchasing power for which no
additional goods or services have yet been produced.
Historical evidence suggests that perhaps three to four cents out of every additional dollar
of stock market wealth eventually is reflected in increased consumer purchases. The sharp rise in
the amount of consumer outlays relative to disposable incomes in recent years, and the
corresponding fall in the saving rate, has been consistent with this so-called wealth effect on
household purchases. Moreover, higher stock prices, by lowering the cost of equity capital, have
helped to support the boom in capital spending.
Outlays prompted by capital gains in excess of increases in income, as best we can judge,
have added about 1 percentage point to annual growth of gross domestic purchases, on average,
over the past five years. The additional growth in spending of recent years that has accompanied
these wealth gains as well as other supporting influences on the economy appears to have been
met in about equal measure from increased net imports and from goods and services produced by
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the net increase in newly hired workers over and above the normal growth of the work force,
including a substantial net inflow of workers from abroad.
But these safety valves that have been supplying goods and services to meet the recent
increments to purchasing power largely generated by capital gains cannot be expected to absorb
an excess of demand over supply indefinitely. First, growing net imports and a widening current
account deficit require ever larger portfolio and direct foreign investments in the United States,
an outcome that cannot continue without limit.
Imbalances in the labor markets perhaps may have even more serious implications for
inflation pressures. While the pool of officially unemployed and those otherwise willing to work
may continue to shrink, as it has persistently over the past seven years, there is an effective limit
to new hiring, unless immigration is uncapped. At some point in the continuous reduction in the
number of available workers willing to take jobs, short of the repeal of the law of supply and
demand, wage increases must rise above even impressive gains in productivity. This would
intensify inflationary pressures or squeeze profit margins, with either outcome capable of
bringing our growing prosperity to an end.
As would be expected, imbalances between demand and potential supply in markets for
goods and services are being mirrored in the financial markets by an excess in the demand for
funds. As a consequence, market interest rates are already moving in the direction of containing
the excess of demand in financial markets and therefore in product markets as well. For
example, BBB corporate bond rates adjusted for inflation expectations have risen by more than 1
percentage point during the past two years. However, to date, rising business earnings
expectations and declining compensation for risk have more than offset the effects of this
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increase, propelling equity prices and the-wealth effect higher. Should this process continue,
however, with the assistance of a monetary policy vigilant against emerging macroeconomic
imbalances, real long-term rates will at some point be high enough to finally balance demand
with supply at the economy's potential in both the financial and product markets. Other things
equal, this condition will involve equity discount factors high enough to bring the rise in asset
values into line with that of household incomes, thereby stemming the impetus to consumption
relative to income that has come from rising wealth. This does not necessarily imply a decline in
asset values-although that, of course, can happen at any time for any number of reasons-but
rather that these values will increase no faster than household incomes.
Because there are limits to the amount of goods and services that can be supplied from
increasing net imports and by drawing on a limited pool of persons willing to work, it necessarily
follows that consumption cannot keep rising faster than income. Moreover, outsized increases in
wealth cannot persist indefinitely either. For so long as the levels of consumption and
investment are sensitive to asset values, equity values increasing at a pace faster than income,
other things equal, will induce a rise in overall demand in excess of potential supply. But that
situation cannot persist without limit because the supply safety valves are themselves limited.
With foreign economies strengthening and labor markets already tight, how the current
wealth effect is finally contained will determine whether the extraordinary expansion that it has
helped foster can slow to a sustainable pace, without destabilizing the economy in the process.
Technological Change Continues Apace
On a broader front, there are few signs to date of slowing in the pace of innovation and
the spread of our newer technologies that, as I have indicated in previous testimonies, have been
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at the root of our extraordinary productivity improvement. Indeed, some analysts conjecture that
we still may be in the earlier stages of the rapid adoption of new technologies and not yet in sight
of the stage when this wave of innovation will crest. With so few examples in our history, there
is very little basis for determining the particular stage of development through which we are
currently passing.
Without doubt, the synergies of the microprocessor, laser, fiber-optic glass, and satellite
technologies have brought quantum advances in information availability. These advances, in
turn, have dramatically decreased business operational uncertainties and risk premiums and,
thereby, have engendered major cost reductions and productivity advances. There seems little
question that further major advances lie ahead. What is uncertain is the future pace of the
application of these innovations, because it is this pace that governs the rate of change in
productivity and economic potential.
Monetary policy, of course, did not produce the intellectual insights behind the
technological advances that have been responsible for the recent phenomenal reshaping of our
economic landscape. It has, however, been instrumental, we trust, in establishing a stable
financial and economic environment with low inflation that is conducive to the investments that
have exploited these innovative technologies.
Federal budget policy has also played a pivotal role. The emergence of surpluses in the
unified budget and of the associated increase in government saving over the past few years has
been exceptionally important to the balance of the expansion, because the surpluses have been
absorbing a portion of the potential excess of demand over sustainable supply associated partly
with the wealth effect. Moreover, because the surpluses are augmenting the pool of domestic
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saving, they have held interest rates below the levels that otherwise would have been needed to
achieve financial and economic balance during this period of exceptional economic growth.
They have, in effect, helped to finance and sustain the productive private investment that has
been key to capturing the benefits of the newer technologies that, in turn, have boosted the
long-term growth potential of the U.S. economy.
The recent good news on the budget suggests that our longer-run prospects for continuing
this beneficial process of recycling savings from the public to the private sectors have improved
greatly in recent years. Nonetheless, budget outlays are expected to come under mounting
pressure as the baby boom generation moves into retirement, a process that gets under way a
decade from now. Maintaining the surpluses and using them to repay debt over coming years
will continue to be an important way the federal government can encourage productivity-
enhancing investment and rising standards of living. Thus, we cannot afford to be lulled into
letting down our guard on budgetary matters, an issue to which I shall return later in this
testimony.
The Economic Outlook
Although the outlook is clouded by a number of uncertainties, the central tendencies of
the projections of the Board members and Reserve Bank presidents imply continued good
economic performance in the United States. Most of them expect economic growth to slow
somewhat this year, easing into the 3-1/2 to 3-3/4 percent area. The unemployment rate would
remain in the neighborhood of 4 to 4-1/4 percent. The rate of inflation for total personal
consumption expenditures is expected to be 1-3/4 to 2 percent, at or a bit below the rate in 1999,
which was elevated by rising energy prices.
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In preparing these forecasts, the Federal Open Market Committee members had to
consider several of the crucial demand- and supply-side forces I referred to earlier. Continued
favorable developments in labor productivity are anticipated both to raise the economy's capacity
to produce and, through its supporting effects on real incomes and asset values, to boost private
domestic demand. When productivity-driven wealth increases were spurring demand a few years
ago, the effects on resource utilization and inflation pressures were offset in part by the effects of
weakening foreign economies and a rising foreign exchange value of the dollar, which depressed
exports and encouraged imports. Last year, with the welcome recovery of foreign economies and
with the leveling out of the dollar, these factors holding down demand and prices in the United
States started to unwind. Strong growth in foreign economic activity is expected to continue this
year, and, other things equal, the effect of the previous appreciation of the dollar should wane,
augmenting demand on U.S. resources and lessening one source of downward pressure on our
prices.
As a consequence, the necessary alignment of the growth of aggregate demand with the
growth of potential aggregate supply may well depend on restraint on domestic demand, which
continues to be buoyed by the lagged effects of increases in stock market valuations.
Accordingly, the appreciable increases in both nominal and real intermediate- and long-term
interest rates over the last two years should act as a needed restraining influence in the period
ahead. However, to date, interest-sensitive spending has remained robust, and the FOMC will
have to stay alert for signs that real interest rates have not yet risen enough to bring the growth of
demand into line with that of potential supply, even should the acceleration of productivity
continue.
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Achieving that alignment seems more pressing today than it did earlier, before the effects
of imbalances began to cumulate, lessening the depth of our various buffers against inflationary
pressures. Labor markets, for example, have tightened in recent years as demand has persistently
outstripped even accelerating potential supply. As I have previously noted, we cannot be sure in
an environment with so little historical precedent what degree of labor market tautness could
begin to push unit costs and prices up more rapidly. We know, however, that there is a limit, and
we can be sure that the smaller the pool of people without jobs willing to take them, the closer
we are to that limit. As the FOMC indicated after its last meeting, the risks still seem to be
weighted on the side of building inflation pressures.
A central bank can best contribute to economic growth and rising standards of living by
fostering a financial environment that promotes overall balance in the economy and price
stability. Maintaining an environment of effective price stability is essential, because the
experience in the United States and abroad has underscored that low and stable inflation is a
prerequisite for healthy, balanced, economic expansion. Sustained expansion and price stability
provide a backdrop against which workers and businesses can respond to signals from the
marketplace in ways that make most efficient use of the evolving technologies.
Federal Budget Policy Issues
Before closing, I should like to revisit some issues of federal budget policy that I have
addressed in previous congressional testimony. Some modest erosion in fiscal discipline resulted
last year through the use of the "emergency" spending initiatives and some "creative
accounting." Although somewhat disappointing, that erosion was small relative to the influence
of the wise choice of the Administration and the Congress to allow the bulk of the unified budget
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surpluses projected for the next several years to build and retire debt to the public. The idea that
we should stop borrowing from the social security trust fund to finance other outlays has gained
surprising-and welcome-traction, and it establishes, in effect, a new budgetary framework that
is centered on the on-budget surplus and how it should be used.
This new framework is useful because it offers a clear objective that should strengthen
budgetary discipline. It moves the budget process closer to accrual accounting, the private-sector
norm, and—I would hope—the ultimate objective of federal budget accounting.
The new budget projections from the Congressional Budget Office and the
Administration generally look reasonable. But, as many analysts have stressed, these estimates
represent a midrange of possible outcomes for the economy and the budget, and actual budgetary
results could deviate quite significantly from current expectations. Some of the uncertainty
centers on the likelihood that the recent spectacular growth of labor productivity will persist over
the years ahead. Like many private forecasters, the CBO and the Office of Management and
Budget assume that productivity growth will drop back somewhat from the recent stepped-up
pace. But a distinct possibility, as I pointed out earlier, is that the development and diffusion of
new technologies in the current wave of innovation may still be at a relatively early stage and
that the scope for further acceleration of productivity is thus greater than is embodied in these
budget projections. If so, the outlook for budget surpluses would be even brighter than is now
anticipated.
But there are significant downside risks to the budget outlook as well. One is our limited
knowledge of the forces driving the surge in tax revenues in recent years. Of course, a good part
of that surge is due to the extraordinary rise in the market value of assets which, as I noted
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earlier, cannot be sustained at the pace of recent years. But that is not the entire story. These
relationships are complex, and until we have detailed tabulations compiled from actual tax
returns, we shall not really know why individual tax revenues, relative to income, have been even
higher than would have been predicted from rising asset values and bracket creep. Thus, we
cannot rule out the possibility that this so-called "tax surprise," which has figured so prominently
in the improved budget picture of recent years, will dissipate or reverse. If this were to happen,
the projected surpluses, even with current economic assumptions, would shrink appreciably and
perhaps disappear. Such an outcome would be especially likely if adverse developments
occurred in other parts of the budget as well~for example, if the recent slowdown in health care
spending were to be followed by a sharper pickup than is assumed in current budget projections.
Another consideration that argues for letting the unified surpluses build is that the budget
is still significantly short of balance when measured on an accrual basis. If social security, for
example, were measured on such a basis, counting benefits when they are earned by workers
rather than when they are paid out, that program would have shown a substantial deficit last year.
The deficit would have been large enough to push the total federal budget into the red, and an
accrual-based budget measure could conceivably record noticeable deficits over the next few
years, rather than the surpluses now indicated by the official projections for either the total
unified budget or the on-budget accounts. Such accruals take account of still growing contingent
liabilities that, under most reasonable sets of actuarial assumptions, currently amount to many
trillions of dollars for social security benefits alone.
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Even if accrual accounting is set aside, it might still be prudent to eschew new
longer-term, potentially irreversible commitments until we are assured that the on-budget surplus
projections are less conjectural than they are, of necessity, today.
Allowing surpluses to reduce the debt to the public, rather than for all practical purposes
irrevocably committing to their disposition in advance, can be viewed as a holding action
pending the clarification of the true underlying budget outcomes of the next few years. Debt
repaid can very readily be reborrowed to fund delayed initiatives.
More fundamentally, the growth potential of our economy under current circumstances is
best served, in my judgment, by allowing the unified budget surpluses presently in train to
materialize and thereby reduce Treasury debt held by the public.
Yet I recognize that growing budget surpluses may be politically infeasible to defend. If
this proves to be the case, as I have also testified previously, the likelihood of maintaining a still
satisfactory overall budget position over the longer run is greater, I believe, if surpluses are used
to lower tax rates rather than to embark on new spending programs. History illustrates the
difficulties of keeping spending in check, especially in programs that are open-ended
commitments, which too often have led to larger outlays than initially envisioned. Decisions to
reduce taxes, however, are more likely to be contained by the need to maintain an adequate
revenue base to finance necessary government services. Moreover, especially if designed to
lower marginal rates, tax reductions can offer favorable incentives for economic performance.
Conclusion
As the U.S. economy enters a new century as well as a new year, the time is opportune to
reflect on the basic characteristics of our economic system that have brought about our success in
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recent years. Competitive and open markets, the rule of law, fiscal discipline, and a culture of
enterprise and entrepreneurship should continue to undergird rapid innovation and enhanced
productivity that in turn should foster a sustained further rise in living standards. It would be
imprudent, however, to presume that the business cycle has been purged from market economies
so long as human expectations are subject to bouts of euphoria and disillusionment. We can only
anticipate that we will readily take such diversions in stride and trust that beneficent
fundamentals will provide the framework for continued economic progress well into the new
millennium.
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Question Submitted for the Record
for Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
from Chairman James Leach
Q.I. Despite the fact that stock market valuations may indirectly affect economic
activity, does the Fed have a proper role either in "jawboning" the market or
making interest rate decisions designed principally to affect market levels?
In a time when some might consider market valuations to be unrealistically
high, is it wiser to raise interest rates, which presumably disproportionately
hit small businesses and middle class Americans, or to raise margin
requirements which exclusively affect deep-pocketed, leveraged investors?
Or are the effects of changes in margin requirements so marginal that their
impact is "de mimimis" on the market itself?
A.I. The Federal Reserve is not "jawboning" the stock market or targeting
stock prices. Rather, the Federal Reserve is concerned about imbalances between
aggregate demand and supply and their implications for inflation and thus sustainability of
the expansion. The sharp increase in equity valuation appears to have been an important
factor behind an apparently developing imbalance. With regard to margin requirements,
studies suggest that changes in such requirements have no appreciable and predictable
effect on stock prices. Nonetheless, the Federal Reserve recognizes that considerable risks
can be involved in the purchase of equity on margin, especially in volatile markets, and
believes that lenders and borrowers need to assess carefully the risks they are assuming
through the use of margin.
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Chairman Greenspan subsequently submitted the following for the record:
The Federal Reserve has not prepared any formal estimates of the point at
which it would experience difficulties in conducting open market operations as the federal
debt is paid down, and we do not expect to encounter significant difficulties in the near
future. As you know, even though the Treasury has been paying down debt for the past
two years or so, the recent surpluses followed a very long period of large federal deficits,
and consequently the volume of federal debt outstanding remains quite large. Moreover,
the Federal Reserve Act enables us to transact in Treasury securities and certain other
instruments (such as obligations of federal agencies, certain obligations of state and local
governments, foreign exchange, sovereign debt, etc.) on both an outright and a temporary,
repurchase basis. The Federal Reserve already has been placing considerable emphasis on
repurchase transactions in our operations. The availability of repurchase agreements
against non-Treasury instruments as well as against Treasury securities will continue to
contribute to our flexibility in an environment of declining Treasury debt.
As you suggest, an objective of the Federal Reserve in implementing
monetary policy is to minimize interference in the allocation of credit in the money and
capital markets. Meeting this objective would be an important consideration in the design
of any implementation alternatives, should declines in Treasury debt eventually make
modifications of our current techniques desirable. I should clarify that current statutory
authority does not permit the Federal Reserve to make purchases of high-grade private
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bonds on either an outright or temporary basis. If at some future time it should become
apparent that additional authority is desirable, we would request that the Congress make
technical changes in the Federal Reserve Act to permit transactions in a broader range of
assets.
The precise market responses to a reduction or even complete elimination of
Treasury debt are difficult to judge in advance. (The main variable determining whether
Treasury debt is eliminated entirely is the realized amount of federal surpluses.) Since
Treasury obligations have been acting as benchmark issues, some market adaptations
certainly will be required if Treasury debt shrinks significantly. As I mentioned at the
hearing, I am confident that the capital markets would create alternative benchmarks to fill
the void left by disappearing Treasury debt. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac already have
attempted to take advantage of this situation by issuing so-called "benchmark" and
"reference" issues, but it is possible that obligations of entirely private firms eventually
could serve as benchmarks.
As I often have emphasized, there is considerable uncertainty about the size
of future surpluses and, indeed, about whether they will even continue to materialize.
Consequently, we should be cautious about making plans based on projections of large
surpluses. If the surpluses do eventuate, the implied smaller federal presence in credit
markets will have substantial benefits for the economy. The reduced volumes of federal
debt will tend to lower even private real interest rates and more generally will foster a
receptive climate for private financing of capital formation, which will help to maximize
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sustainable economic growth. Any adaptations that may eventually be required in Federal
Reserve operations are insignificant in comparison to those benefits. Similarly, I am quite
confident that any market adaptations in response to declining Treasury debt will ultimately
preserve and possibly even enhance the efficiency of our capital markets.
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Questions Submitted for the Record
for Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
from Congressman Ron Paul
Q. 1. In early February foreign holdings of U.S. debt jumped significantly to over $700
billion. What is the explanation for this? For whom does the Federal Reserve hold
these new funds and in what form?
A.I. The only data available on foreign holdings of U.S. debt in February are
partial data on foreign official reserves held at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
These holdings were in the $740-$750 billion range in February, but they did not increase
significantly during February and have exceeded $700 billion since December of 1998.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York (FRBNY) acts as custodian for most foreign
governments and central banks as well as several international organizations. U.S.
Treasury securities make up by far the bulk of these assets held in custody-over $625
billion, or eighty percent of the total. In addition to Treasuries, FRBNY also holds
Agency securities, CDs, commercial paper, bankers' acceptances, bank deposits,
repurchase agreements, and gold for its foreign official customers.
Q.2. Jerry L. Jordan of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland at the Cato Institute's
17th Annual Monetary Conference, "The Search for Global Monetary Order," on
October 21, 1999, remarked, "If monetary sovereignty or independence is not
worth much in today's global capital markets, and if seignorage is quite small in a
noninflationary world, then the costs and risks associated with a national central
bank and a national currency become harder to justify."* These comments were
characterized as central banks are becoming obsolete. Do you agree with Jerry
Jordan's statement and its characterization?
A.2. In my view, national central banks continue to have an important role to play
in promoting the goals of financial stability and sustainable economic growth. Even in
today's highly integrated global economic and financial system, national central banks can
exert a considerable influence on domestic price and economic developments and thus help
to make progress toward these goals.
Q.3. One effect of the Federal Funds Rate Target is to smooth short-term rates, such as
the prime rate, over the short term (over a few weeks to a few months). To what
extent has this short-term smoothing effect exacerbated the stock market bubble by
largely removing the financing cost risk of making leveraged bets in the stock
market?
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A.3. I do not believe that our short-term monetary policy operating procedures
have a significant effect on stock prices. Our operating procedures, as you suggest, do
tend to smooth short-run fluctuations in short-term interest rates. However, the risks of
investing in-equities come primarily from uncertainty about future earnings and about the
longer-term interest rates at which those future earnings should be discounted, and not
mainly from the possibility that the short-run cost of financing stock positions could
increase. Consequently, even if our operating procedures were associated with somewhat
larger movements in short-term rates, I doubt that investors* perceptions of equity risks
would be much affected and thus that equity prices would be significantly influenced.
Q.4. On April 1, 2000,1 will be the keynote speaker at a Freedom Rally in California
where NORFED will be issuing the first Gold Certificate since 1933. Given your
professed "nostalgia" for the gold standard, is there anything you would suggest I
add to the speech?
A.4. Thank you for the opportunity, but there is nothing in particular that I would
like to suggest.
Q.5. Dr. Kurt Richebacher, former chief economist and managing partner at Germany's
Dresdner Bank, has issued dire predictions for the global economy: "a deflationary
collapse lies ahead that will ravage the world's bourses and usher in a dark period
of austerity and financial discipline," according to Rick Ackerman in The Sunday
Examiner. He reportedly bases his predictions, in part, on the "statistical hoax" of
our government's 1995 implementation of a "hedonic" price index, which he
characterized as akin to measuring GM's auto sales by tallying the horsepower of all
the engines in its cars. With the proliferation of the use of cellular telephones,
emails and faxes, and the greater subsequent blurring of home and work, measuring
hours worked has become more difficult. Given your testimony on the importance
of estimated productivity gains and your comment that it is "impossible" to manage
something one cannot define, what precautions should policy makers take in case
these gains have been overestimated?
A.5. Possible errors in the measurement of real output and productivity in and of
themselves are not the central issue: Correction of the errors would not alter the balance
of potential supply and actual production, for both would be adjusted by like amounts.
The key for monetary policy is the balance between supply and demand, as gauged, for
example, by changes in the utilization of labor or of plant capacity.
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However, to the extent that output is being mis-measured owing to errors in
deflation of nominal expenditures, it follows that our price indexes may be giving
misleading signals about the true rate of inflation. This is a troubling issue—one that I have
noted on many occasions. Especially in a world in which products are becoming more and
more difficult to define, price measurement will be an increasing challenge. This is one
reason why strict quantitative inflation targeting might be undesirable. But, in any event,
it behooves us, when the measured rate of price increase is relatively low, to keep a close
eye on the economy for indications of the sorts of financial and economic tensions that
typically have accompanied deflationary pressures-such as debt service problems and
contractionary tendencies in economic activity. At this point, I do not see any signs that
we have a problem of this sort.
Q.6. The Gold Anti-Trust Action (GATA) open questions in the Roil Call ad raised the
profile of speculation of government and central bank manipulation of the gold
market. Because the Federal Reserve Bank of New York acts as the agent for all
international transactions of the Fed and the Treasury, can you end any speculation
of U.S. involvement by saying unequivocally that the N. Y. Fed has not intervened
for itself, Treasury or as an agent for anyone else?
A.6. I don't know if I will able to end speculation about U.S. involvement in the
gold market, but I can say unequivocally that the Federal Reserve Bank of New York has
not intervened in the gold market in an attempt to manipulate the price of gold on its own
behalf or for the U.S. Treasury or anyone else.
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Chairman Greenspan subsequently submitted the following in response to Congressman
Sanders' questions:
I would like to elaborate, in writing as requested, on the issue of income
disparities as measured by the Survey of Consumer Finances, as well as the earlier issue
you raised regarding the impact of the minimum wage.
You noted that the Survey of Consumer Finances conducted by the Federal
Reserve showed, among the various income groups identified in a summary table, only
those earning $100,000 or more had shown a gain in average income between 1995 and
1998, and asked how such a pattern could be seen as consistent with what some
characterize as a "booming economy."
As a technical matter, these data do not trace the fortunes of individual families
over time, and thus may not provide precisely the kind of information you would wish.
But, setting aside the finer statistical issues, I have already indicated that I share your
concerns about the fact that there are still many families that are struggling in this country.
I do believe that the continuing economic expansion is bringing new opportunities to many
who had not previously been able to find employment, and it is our objective—by avoiding
inflationary imbalances in the economy-to prolong that expansion and its benefits for these
people and their families.
Regarding the issue of the minimum wage, I do not believe that raising the
minimum wage is the appropriate tool to address the problem of income disparities.
Increases in the minimum wage make it more costly for employers to hire workers whose
current skills would not permit them to be productive enough to make it profitable to
employ them. By avoiding setting such an artificial barrier, we can facilitate the flow of
less skilled individuals into the work force, where they can gain the work experience and
on-the-job training that will enhance their value to employers and put them on a path
toward greater economic welfare.
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Chairman Greenspan subsequently submitted the following response
for inclusion in the record:
This question of what government policy actions would be appropriate
in raising real wage rates, perhaps at the expense of lowering business profits, is
difficult. I believe that the primary focus of policy action should be the
maximization of the total income "pie" of the economy, the amount that can be
divided between labor and capital.
The crucial element in the growth of real wages and labor incomes
over time is the improvement of labor productivity—the amount of output produced
per hour of work. And one of the most important contributors to productivity
growth is the increase in the capital stock available to workers. If workers have
more equipment to leverage their efforts, they will produce more and, history
suggests strongly, they will share with the owners of capital the fruits of that
additional production. Appropriate taxation of returns on capital and a non-
inflationary environment in which the price mechanism works most effectively in
guiding the allocation of capital are conditions conducive to efficient investment.
Workers will also be more productive if they are well trained and if
they find their way to the positions in which they can be put to best use. This
suggests that policies that promote the development of worker skills and the
dissemination of information about job availability may be helpful in enhancing
productivity, though incentives are already quite strong for the private sector to do
much of this job.
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Chairman Greenspan subsequently submitted the following response for
inclusion in the record:
You raised the issue of the role of the oil price in the design of monetary
policy. You also asked about whether the Federal Reserve would take account of the
repercussions in foreign countries, in particular Russia, of its monetary policy actions.
As your question on how oil prices affect U.S. economic performance and
thus monetary policy implies, oil price increases by themselves can have somewhat
contradictory implications for the setting of monetary policy. They would have to be
considered in the context of all the other influences on progress toward the goals of price
stability and sustainable economic growth. Although the likely direction of influence on
monetary policy of a given change in oil prices remains uncertain, it can safely be said that
over time the effects of a given change in oil prices on both inflation and real economic
growth have diminished, simply because the share of oil-based products in our GDP has
fallen. As for Russia, the Federal Reserve interprets its legislative mandates as promoting
sustainable growth and price stability for the U.S. economy. Aside from the effects on our
economy, it does not routinely consider how its policies affect foreign countries or take
account of foreign policy considerations in its setting of monetary policy.
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