speeches · October 25, 1998
Speech
William Poole · President
Whither the U.S. Credit Markets?
ConstructionFinancialManagersAssociation
Co-sponsoredbytheAssociatedBuildersandContractorsandtheBuildersExchange
Louisville,Kentucky
October26,1998
Iam delighted to be here this evening to overtheten-yearTreasuryyield.Thedailyaverage
meet with the Construction Financial ofthatspreadwasabout185basispointssofar
Managers Association at this meeting co- inOctober,comparedwithanaverageoverthe
sponsored by the Associated Builders and entireperiodsince1959of68basispoints.The
Contractors and the Builders Exchange. I had figurealsorevealsthatthespreadintoday’smar-
originally planned to provide an overview of the ketisindeedhigherthanwehaveseensince1959.
state of the economy but decided instead to con- ThelighterlineinFigure1showsthespread
centrate on the very unusual situation in today’s oflower-ratedcorporatesecurities—thosecarrying
creditmarkets.Ithinkthisdecisionisfullyappro- aBaarating—overthe10-yearTreasuryyield.So
priate given that interest rates and credit avail- farinOctoberthatspreadhasaveraged265basis
ability are critical issues for all parts of the con- points.Aswecanseefromthefigure,thisspread
struction industry.
ishigherthannormal—theaverageovertheentire
TheU.S.financiallandscapechangeddramati-
periodis167basispoints.However,aspreadthis
callyinmid-Augustofthisyear.Initially,whatwe
largeisnotallthatuncommonsince1959.
sawwasadramaticwideningofqualityspreads
Weshouldalsocomparethecurrentspreads
aslower-ratedcorporatebondsfellinyieldrelative
totheirrecentlevelsbeforeAugust.Overthepast
toTreasurybonds.Intheensuingweekswefound
severalyears,theAaaspreadhasbeeninthe
thatthenumberofnewbondscomingtomarket
neighborhoodof100basispointsandtheBaa
felldramaticallyfromthepaceearlierintheyear.
spreadhasbeenintheneighborhoodof150basis
Inaddition,thestockmarketbecamemuchmore
points.So,clearlythespreadshaveincreased
volatileandonaverageequitypricesdeclined.As
sharplysinceAugustandthatisthephenomenon
inthebondmarket,thenumberofnewissuescom-
weneedtounderstandandthatmonetarypolicy
ingintotheequitymarketdeclinedsubstantially.
makersneedtoconfront.Atthispoint,Iwantto
WhatIwanttodothiseveningistodiscuss
putasidepolicydiscussion;wemustlookmuch
insomedetailwhathashappenedinthecredit
morecarefullyatunderstandingthesituation
marketsandtoworkonprovidingadeeperunder-
beforewediscussthepolicyresponse.
standingoftheseeventsandoftheirpossible
Theverticalshadedareasinthefigureshow
implicationsfortheU.S.economy.
periodsofrecessionasdefinedbytheNational
BureauofEconomicResearch.Inalmostallcases
historically,spreadswidenedonlyafterarecession
THE FINANCIAL MARKETS SINCE
wasclearlyunderway.Suchbehaviormakesper-
AUGUST
fectlygoodsenseasperiodsofrecessionbring
Letmebeginthisdiscussionbyreferringto decliningcorporateearningsandlessearnings
Figure1reportingcorporatebondspreadsmonthly coverageofcorporatedebtservice.Theeffectis
from1959todate.Theboldlineinthefigure moreimportant,ofcourse,forlower-ratedbonds
showsthespreadoftheAaaaveragebondyield suchastheBaabonds.Withincreasedriskof
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Figure 1
Corporate Bond Spreads
default,investorsdemandhigheryields.More- spreadthathasopenedupisquantitativelymore
over,ingeneralwecanobservethattheincrease aconsequenceofthesteepdeclineintheTreasury
inthespreadisgreaterthedeepertherecession. yieldthanaconsequenceofanincreaseinthe
Therecessionsof1973-75and1981-82weremore AaaorBaayields.Ifwelookatthelower-rated
seriousthantheotherrecessionsshowninthe bondsthemarketreferstoas“junk”bonds,the
figure,andthepeakspreadswerehigher.Ifwe storyisbroadlythesameexceptthatthejunk-
gobackfurtherinU.S.history,wewouldobserve bondyieldshavegoneupinabsolutevalueso
exactlythesamething. thatthespreadhasbecomequitelarge.Basedon
Manyobservershavecommentedonfigures theMerrillLynchhigh-yieldbondseries,this
similartoFigure1,althoughtomytastetheytoo spreadaveraged566basispointsinSeptember
oftenconcentrateononlythelastfewyearswith comparedwithmorerecentexperiencein1997
theconsequencethatthelessonsfromhistory and1998untilAugustofaspreadcloserto300
aremissed. basispoints.
Inowwanttoturntoadifferentwayoflook- Wecantellabroadlysimilarstoryatthe
ingatthissamesubjectbyexaminingtheabsolute short-endofthemarket.Thespreadbetweenthe
levelsoftheyields.Figure2providestheinforma- yieldsonbankCDsrelativetothethree-month
tionweneed.Theboldlineinthefigureshows Treasurybillratehasopeneduptothetuneof
the10-yearTreasurybondyield.Aswecansee, 142basispointsfortheweekendingOctober16
thatyieldhasdroppeddramaticallyinrecent comparedwithanaveragespreadovertheperiod
months.TheAaaandBaayieldshavealsofallen since1964of81basispoints.Thisyearbefore
somewhat,althoughnotasmuch.Therefore,the Augustthespreadwascloserto60basispoints.
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WhithertheU.S.CreditMarkets?
Figure 2
Long-Term BondYields
ThustheCDspreadhasincreasedbysomething Spreadsdonottelltheentirestory.Idon’thave
intheorderof80basispointssinceAugust.What thevolumenumbersatmyfingertips,butitis
thismeansisthatthecostofpurchasedfundsto evidentthatthenumberofnewissueshasdeclined
largebankshasrisensubstantiallyrelativetothe
quitesubstantially.Towhatextentvolumeis
Treasurybillrate.
downbecausepotentialborrowerssimplycannot
Thecommercialpaperratehasalsorisenrela-
placeriskierbondsduetoweakdemandforsuch
tivetotheTreasurybillrate.Inmid-Octoberthat
bondsandtowhatextentvolumeisdownbecause
spreadwasabout127basispointscomparedwith
potentialborrowersaresimplywaitingforspreads
anaveragespreadsince1971of71basispoints.
TheaveragespreadthisyearbeforeAugustwas tonarrowIdonotknow.Eitherway,thesharply
moreintheneighborhoodof50basispoints, reducedvolumeisanothermeasureofthemag-
whichmeansthatthecommercialpaperspread nitudeofthecurrentdisturbanceinthecredit
hasrisenbysomethingintheorderof80basis markets.
pointssinceAugust,oraboutthesameasthe
Finally,becauseofthewidereportingofthe
increaseintheCDspread.Thusthecostoffinanc-
stockmarket,everyoneisfamiliarwiththe
ingtothelargecorporationsthatutilizethecom-
declinesintheequitymarketandthegreatly
mercialpapermarkethasrisenby80basispoints
increasedvolatilityinthatmarket.Theincreased
relativetotheTreasurybillrate.Hereagain,as
volatilityisindeedquitedramatic;wehaveall
inthebondmarket,theabsolutecostoffinancing
intheCDandcommercialpapermarketshasnot experiencedthegut-wrenchingupanddowns—
goneup;thespreadshavewidenedbecausethe thedownshitdeeperinthegutthantheups—in
T-billratehasgonedownsubstantially. thestockmarket.
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FINANCIALMARKETS
Oneotherthingthathashappened—little UNDERSTANDING THE CREDIT
notedbythegeneralpublic,butmuchcommented
MARKET DISTURBANCE
uponbymarketprofessionals—isthespreadthat
hasopenedupwithintheTreasurybondmarket Nowthatwehavereviewedwhathashap-
betweenon-the-runandoff-the-runissues.For penedinthecreditmarkets,let’stalkabitabout
example,thelongestbondoutstanding,which tryingtounderstandtheseevents.Ialreadycom-
hasamaturityofalittlelessthan30years,was mentedbrieflythatinthebondmarket,asyou
recentlytradingatayieldofabout35basispoints canseefromthefiguresIdistributed,thespreads
lessthanthenextlongestbond.Thatspreadnar- historicallyhavebeenrelatedtorecessions.Ialso
rowedsomewhatlastweek.Ordinarily,thisyield commentedthatitmakesperfectsenseforspreads
differenceisintheneighborhoodoffivetoeight towidenundersuchcircumstances.Onepossible
basispoints.Thesamephenomenoncanbeseen interpretationoftheincreasedspreadstodayis
whencomparing10-yearand9-yearT-bonds,and thatarecessionhasalreadystarted.Thatpossi-
5-yearand6-yearT-bonds.Themarketliquidity bilityseemsremotetome,asthecurrenteconomic
isfarhigherfortheon-the-runissuesat5,10,and datasimplydonotpointtoanactualdeclinein
30yearsthanfortheneighboringbonds.Forsome economicactivityalreadyinplace.Themost
reason,themarketconcentratesonthoseparticular recentdatasuggestthattherateofgrowthhas
maturities.Finally,bid-askedspreadsforanygiven slowedabit,butnotthattheoveralleconomyis
issueintheTreasurymarkethavealsowidened. alreadyonadownwardtrack.Moreover,most
Itseemsreasonabletointerprettheseyield forecastersarecallingforcontinuedexpansion
spreadswithintheTreasurymarketasproviding nextyear,althoughthereareafewwhobelievea
ameasureofthemarket’stremendoushungerfor recessionisontheway.
liquidityandthemarket’stremendousuncertainty. Mypersonalobservationonarecessionfore-
Theon-the-runissuescanbetradedinmuch castisthatifarecessiondoesstartearlynextyear,
largervolumeandwithamuchlowerbid-asked thecircumstancessurroundingitwillbeunique
spread—althoughahigherbid-askedspreadthan inU.S.businesscyclehistory.AsfarasIknow,
normal—thantheneighboringissues,sotheseare lookingbackontheentirechronologyofreces-
theissueswheremarketprofessionalsplacefunds sionsstartinginthe1850s,thereisnocasein
onatemporarybasis.Itmayseemstrangethat whichtheperiodleadinguptoarecessionwas
traderswoulduseathirty-yearbondasaplace characterizedbylow-to-declininginflation,
toparkfundstemporarily,butthatseemstobe declininginterestrateswellinadvanceofthe
thewaythemarketworks. cyclepeak,andhigh-and-risingmoneygrowth.
So,tosummarize,throughoutthecreditmar- I’velearnednottosaythatsomethingisimpossible
ketsweseeevidenceofaverylargechangein inthisbusiness,butwemustformourjudgments
investors’attitudesstartinginmid-August.The fromourexperienceandtomeitseemsunlikely
equitymarketsareonaveragedownandmuch thatarecessioniseitheralreadyunderwayorjust
morevolatile.Qualityspreadshaveopenedup aroundthecorner.
substantiallyinthebondmarketandinthemoney Whenwelookatthespreadsattheshortend
market.Thevolumeofnewissuesinboththe ofthemarket—theCDandcommercialpaper
equitymarketandthebondmarkethasdeclined spreads—wecanobservetwofeaturesofourexpe-
verysubstantially.WithintheTreasurybondmar- riencesince1959.First,thespreadsarecharac-
ket,off-the-runissuestradeatmuchhigherthan terizedforthemostpartbyshort,sharppeaks.
usualyieldsrelativetoon-the-runissues.And Second,wecanidentifyspecificeventsthattrig-
bid-askedspreadsthroughoutthebondmarket, geredthesharpincreasesinthespreads.Itisuse-
includingtheTreasurybondmarket,arehigher fultorecountthesespecificeventstounderstand
thannormal. betterwhatisgoingon.
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WhithertheU.S.CreditMarkets?
In1970,thePenn-CentralRailroaddeclared Therearestrawsinthewindsuggestingthatthe
bankruptcy.Penn-Centralhadissuedcommercial flowsoffinancingthroughthemarketsarepicking
paperwhichtheratingagencieshadratedprime. uponceagainandthatweareheadedbacktoward
Holdersofprimecommercialpaperissuedby amorenormalstateofaffairs.Spreadshavenar-
othercorporationswereunderstandablytaken rowedabitinrecentdays,andthestockmarket
abackwhentheyheardofthePenn-Central isupsignificantlyfromitslows.But,Idowant
default.Theirreactionwasperfectlynaturaland toemphasizethatmyobservationsreflectstraws
understandable:theyaskedwhetherothercom- inthewind,andIwouldnotpersonallybesur-
mercialpaperratedprimemightalsobesuspect. prisedifthesituationeitherlastslongerorsorts
Theimmediateeffectwasasharpincreaseinthe itselfoutquickly.Putanotherway,thereisnec-
commercialpaperspreadoverT-billsasinvestors essarilyawidevariancetoanyreasonablefore-
insistedonahigheryieldtoprotectthemselves.
castaboutthismatter.
Beforeverylong,however,themarketsortedout
Nowletmetrytoputtheseobservationsina
theborrowersthattrulywereprimefromothers
somewhatgeneralframework.Hereishowthe
thatweremorequestionable.Thequestionable
processworksasbestIcanunderstandit.Some
borrowerswerenolongerabletoborrowatprime
shockorpieceofnewshitsthemarketandtakes
andtheprimeborrowersborrowedatanormal
peoplebysurprise.Manyinvestorsrunforcover
spreadovertheT-billrate.Thehiccupinthe
untiltheycansortoutthesituation.Investors
marketdisappearedquickly.
moveawayfrommoreriskysecuritiesandpark
Similardisturbancesthatresultedinsharply
fundstemporarilyinsafe,highlyliquidTreasury
increasedspreadscanbeidentified.TheFranklin
securities.However,thewidespreadsthatopen
NationalBankfailedin1974,ContinentalIllinois
upprovidetheincentivetothemarketstosortout
Banknearlyfailedin1984,andthestockmarket
theproblemquickly.Afterall,ifyoucaninvest
crashedin1987.Inallthesecasesweobserve
inaslightlyriskysecurityataspreadovera
spikesinspreadsintheCDandcommercialpaper
Treasurysecuritythatmorethanamplycompen-
markets.Butthekeypointisthatinachartthe
satesfortherisk,thenwhynotgoforit?The
spreadslooklikespikesratherthanlongplateaus
marketisinthebusinessofassessingrisksand
atthetimesoftheseevents.InthesecasesI’ve
obtainingthehighestpossibleyieldconsistent
mentioned,andothers,themarketstraightened
withtheriskbeingassumed.So,whilethemarket
outthematterquiteliterallyinamatterofweeks.
ingeneralmaybedominatedforafewweeksby
Thistime,thedisturbancehaslastedsome-
highlyrisk-adverseinvestors,moreastuteand
whatlongersofarthansimilardisturbancesinthe
adventurousinvestorswillstarttoplacefunds
past.Theshocktothemarketswasaparticular
inthesecuritiesthatofferahighyieldrelativeto
pieceofnews—theRussiandefaultonitsdebtin
theriskinvolved.Thisprocessgraduallyspreads
midAugust,ordebtreschedulingforthosewho
totherestofthemarket,andnotalwayssograd-
wanttobepoliteandstrictlyaccurate.Apparently,
theRussiansituationledmanyinvestorstothink ually.Thatiswhythefigureonthespreadshows
muchmorecarefullyaboutrisksinthemarket- spikesratherthanlongplateaus.
placeandtowonderwhetherspreadswereade- Ihaven’tmentionedbanklendingasyet,
quatetocoverthoserisks. becausenotmuchhashappenedonthatfront.
Wereallydonotknowhowlongspreads TheinformationIhaveindicatesthatlargebanks
willremainhighandthevolumeofnewissues mayhavepulledbackabit,lookingharderatthe
abnormallylow;thecurrentexperienceismore riskinessofpotentialloansandshyingawayfrom
generalandpervasivethantheexampleswesee sometheywouldhaveacceptedbeforeAugust.
inhistory.Butmyownpersonalguessisthatthe However,mostsmall-andmedium-sizedbanks
markettodayiswellintotheprocessofsorting havecontinuedtheirlendingpolicieslargely
outthesolidcreditsfromthelesssolidones. unchanged.
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FINANCIALMARKETS
IMPLICATIONS OF THE CREDIT Letmefinishwithafewobservationsonthe
currenteconomicsituation.Thefundamentals
MARKET DISTURBANCE
oftheU.S.economyreallydoseemtometobe
Itisprettyobviousthatifthespreadsremain sound.Iamnottryingtosoundoptimisticinan
highforanextendedperiodoftime,andifthe efforttocalmthemarket,orforanyotherpurpose.
flowofnewcredittoborrowerswhowouldhave Suchastancewouldn’tworkfortheFedformore
readilyqualifiedforfundsonlyashorttimeago thanafewdaysiftheflowofnewsreflectsfunda-
remainslargelycutoff,thentheeconomywill mentalsthatarenotreallysound.Itistruethat
almostcertainlyslowsubstantially.But,please thecreditmarketsmighthavebeenreactingto
donotethequalifyingphrase,“ifthedisturbance somethingthatIdon’tsee—Iamnotinfalliblein
continues.”Ifspreadsremainhigh,thentheeffect thesemattersandcertainlyhavemademyshare
ontheeconomywillbesubstantial.Putmore ofmistakenjudgmentsinthepast.However,Ido
precisely,thelongerthedisturbancecontinues, havetocallthingsasIseethemandIhavetried
thegreaterwillbetheeffectontheeconomy.Iam togiveyouaveryopenopinionaboutmyassess-
confidentthatinthesweepofhistorythedistur- ment.Thefundamentalsoftheeconomyarestrong
bancewillbetemporary,butIdonotknowtoday becausetheinflationenvironmentisbenign—
whether“temporary”meansamatterofafew inflationhasbeenstabletodecliningandinflation
moreweeksoramatterofafewmoremonths. expectationsarethatinflationwillremainbenign.
So,clearlyweattheFederalReserveneedtowatch Thelaborforceisfullyemployed.
thissituationcloselyandtoadjustmonetarypolicy Iwantespeciallytoemphasizethatthebank-
inlinewithourbestcurrentestimateoftheprob- ingsystemisstrong;increasesinbankcapital
ableeffectsofthefinancialmarketbehavioron overrecentyearshavemeantthatbanklosses
thegeneraleconomy. fromsomerecentloansthathavegonebaddonot
Letmeemphasizemypersonalconviction threatenthesolvencyofthebanks.Bankcapital
thatweneedtofocusontheeconomyitselfand isdoingexactlywhatitissupposetodo.This
notaimoursightsatthefinancialmarketsperse. situationisquitedifferentfromthatintheearly
TheFederalReservehasonlyonepolicyinstru- 1990swhenwedidhavearatherprolonged
ment,whichistheamountofmoneyitcreates. periodofcreditstringencyrelatedingoodpart
Asatacticalmatter,theFedsetsanoperating totheweaknessofbankcapitalatthattime.
targetforthefederalfundsrate.Withonepolicy Insum,IbelievethattheU.S.economyisin
instrument,theFedcanatbestbesuccessfulin asstrongapositionimaginabletowithstandthe
pursuingonepolicyobjective.Inmyview,that suddenburstofriskaversionthathasaffected
objectiveoughttobetheperformanceoftheU.S. thecreditmarketssincemidAugustintheper-
economy,andmostespeciallyalowandstable vasivewayIhavebeendiscussingtonight.Ihave
rateofinflation.Noaspectoftheperformanceof triedtounderstandwhatisgoingoninthecredit
thefinancialmarketsshoulditselfbeapolicy marketsbydrawingonacombinationofeconomic
objective,giventhattheFedhasonlyonepolicy theoryandhistoricalexperience.Ibelievethat
instrument,buttheFedshould,inmyview,do theFed’spolicyresponsetothissituation,empha-
thebestitcaninassessinghowfinancialmarkets sizingitspossibleeffectsontheU.S.economy,
mayaffecttheeconomy.Induetime,andcon- hasbeenfullyappropriate.That’smymessage.It
ceivablyquitequickly,thecurrentfinancialdis- willbeinterestingindeedtoseehowthesecon-
turbancewillpeterout,andthenmyjobwillbe ditionsevolveinthemonthsahead.
todothebestIcaninfiguringouttheeconomy’s
directiongiventheresumptionofnormalcredit
flows.
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William Poole (1998, October 25). Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/speech_19981026_poole
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author = {William Poole},
title = {Speech},
year = {1998},
month = {Oct},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/speech_19981026_poole},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}