Regional President Speech

Menu Page Menu + Operating with Limited Data Nov. 18, 2025 Tom Barkin President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond Shenandoah University Halpin-Harris Hall Winchester, Va. Highlights: • We have been operating with limited government data. The good news is that we aren’t navigating blind. We have other ways to keep a pulse on the economy. • On net, we are seeing pressure on both sides of our mandate, with inflation above our target and job growth down. • We also see mitigants on both sides, with consumer pushback and productivity improvements limiting inflation and labor supply slowing at roughly the same pace as labor demand, reducing the hit to unemployment. Thank you for that kind introduction. I thought I would share my sense of the economy today and where it may be headed. These are my thoughts only and not those of anyone else on the Federal Open Market Committee or in the Federal Reserve System. I hope you will give me some grace as we have been operating with limited government data for almost seven weeks. I like analogies, so I’ve been describing operating with limited data as trying to bring a boat to shore in the pitch black and having the lighthouse go dark. You can assume you’re on the same course for a short while. You can try to navigate by lantern. But you can’t ignore the fact that you don’t have much visibility, you might lose your bearings and there may be hazards up ahead. The good news is that we aren’t navigating blind. We have other ways to keep a pulse on the economy. Private sector data help. For the most part, they aren't as definitive nor as calibrated, but they can highlight big shifts in economic conditions. In addition, the Fed benefits from collecting real-time information directly from the communities we serve. The Richmond Fed set up our extensive outreach efforts because we recognized that even government data has its drawbacks. It’s backward-looking. It’s revised multiple times. It’s aggregated, so it often doesn’t capture underlying nuance. To address these gaps, each year my outreach team connects with thousands of business and community leaders; this year, we are on track to meet with about 4,000. We get thousands more responses through our regional surveys of business activity, as well as The CFO Survey. This outreach helps us understand the economy better, as well as anticipate turning points we might otherwise miss. In 2020, businesses in Bristol told us of packed shopping malls across the Tennessee border where shutdown rules had lifted; pent-up demand was coming. In 2022, furniture manufacturers told us sales were slowing; the goods boom was cooling. In 2023, firms told us they’d keep testing price increases; pricing psychology had shifted from “no chance” before COVID-19 to “no crime in trying.” So, let me share what the official data had been telling us, what the private data are suggesting, and what my team is hearing. Demand remains healthy. The last official data, from August, showed a year-over-year increase in real consumer spending of 2.7 percent. Retail sales grew a strong 0.6 percent from July. Driven by artificial intelligence (AI), business investment was robust. Since then, private data haven’t signaled much change. Credit and debit card spending remains solid, in the context of low unemployment and buoyant markets. Third quarter earnings and earnings outlooks came in well, suggesting continued support for investment. The elevated uncertainty that businesses perceived earlier in the year seems to be abating. But in our outreach, the feel is very different by sector. If you build data centers, or provide energy, or sell to higher-income customers, or trade on Wall Street, or build pharmaceutical plants, or live in the Carolinas, your economy is hot. But if you’re a farmer, or a realtor, or a manufacturer hurt by tariffs, or are dependent on lower-income consumers, you are struggling. In the D.C. metro part of my district, the government shutdown has exacerbated an already challenging situation for federal workers, local businesses, and institutions dependent on government funding. Turning to the labor market, while the unemployment rate has ticked up this year, it was still historically low at 4.3 percent through August. Employment growth, on the other hand, is soft. We’ve been describing a low-hire, low-fire environment with three-month average job growth at a modest 29,000, but layoffs (as signaled by initial jobless claims) stable and low. Private sector metrics haven’t suggested much change. Job postings have drifted down. Jobs growth as reported by ADP remains muted, coming in at 42,000 in October. We have kept access to initial claims data from the states, and they haven’t moved meaningfully. Our outreach suggests a somewhat weaker labor market than these numbers suggest. If you ask businesses how they see the labor market today, they say, “balanced.” But as they describe that “balance” in more detail, it doesn’t seem so. With the exception of skilled trades, labor feels quite available with plenty of quality applicants per opening. Recent layoff announcements by sizable firms like Amazon, Verizon, and Target give additional cause for caution. I will note it is a challenge to calibrate how much impact slower job growth will have on the unemployment rate, because we have been witnessing a rapid drop in the growth of labor supply. My generation is aging out of the workforce, and net immigration is declining. The Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that the labor force will grow 0.3 percent annually over the next decade, well below the annual rate of 0.8 percent over the decade ending in 2024. There may be fewer jobs to fill, but there are also fewer people vying for each job. Inflation is still above target. The last CPI print shows 12-month headline and core inflation at 3 percent through September. That likely translates to PCE inflation almost a full point above our 2 percent target. On the positive side, shelter price growth is easing, and oil prices remain low; on the other hand, goods price growth has remained higher than its recent norms, and we are seeing some pressure in non-housing core services like insurance. We unfortunately have fewer quality alternative data sources for inflation, as it is easier to monitor the price of coffee than to assess the mix of price changes across the entire consumer basket. Our outreach leads me to believe inflation remains somewhat elevated but isn’t likely to increase much. Our survey respondents expect higher growth in prices than they did before the pandemic. Where meaningful, they tell us tariff and other input cost pressures need to get passed on. At the same time, we hear customers are exhausted by ever-increasing prices. This isn’t 2022 when stimulus, COVID-era savings, and rapid wage growth fueled revenge spending. Today — in the context of weak sentiment — we hear consumers are trading down, pushing back on higher prices by moving to private label, repairing rather than replacing, and shopping at value-priced retailers. We also hear they are trading off, maybe paying for a new phone by forgoing a vacation. Increased productivity may also be giving businesses the ability to offset input cost increases. Businesses caught short workers after the pandemic invested in labor-saving technology, process redesign, and more sophisticated staffing models. They may be reaping the rewards now. The recent drop in turnover may be making newer employees more productive. Firms that choose not to hire are naturally increasing their productivity as output grows with lower headcount. Some sectors tell us they are benefitting from the elimination of unnecessary regulation. Notice I made it this far without mentioning the two omnipresent letters: A and I. But they matter too, with more to come. So, on net, we are seeing pressure on both sides of our mandate, with inflation above our target and job growth down. But we also see mitigants on both sides, with consumer pushback and productivity improvements limiting inflation and labor supply slowing at roughly the same pace as labor demand, reducing the hit to unemployment. This brings me to policy. When the lighthouse goes dark, you might remain on your preexisting path at first, but soon enough, you will want to throttle back until you get more visibility. That’s not a particularly comfortable place to be, so I am looking forward to some illumination, from the data as it returns or from our outreach. You may notice nothing I just said gives any guidance for our next meeting. That’s intentional, as I think we have a lot to learn between now and then. In times like this, I look for guidance from you. I want to know how your businesses are doing and what you are planning in terms of investment, hiring, layoffs, compensation and pricing. In some ways, these uncharted waters feel like the information challenge we faced during the pandemic; that’s why I worked so hard in that period to stay close to so many contacts across the Fifth District, even if outside and at a distance. If we aren’t yet connected, I encourage you to reach out so we can learn from you. If you aren’t yet participating in our surveys, please sign up. Your perspective is important, now more than ever, as we attempt to steer forward.

Tom Barkin (2025, November 17). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20251118_tom_barkin

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