speeches · May 8, 2025
Regional President Speech
Beth M. Hammack · President
The Outlook for the Economy and Monetary Policy
Beth M. Hammack
President and Chief Executive Officer
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
Remarks for the Policy Panel
Hoover Monetary Policy Conference: Finishing the Job and New Challenges
Hoover Institution, Stanford University
Stanford, CA
May 9, 2025
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Introduction
My thanks to the Hoover Institution for inviting me to speak on this esteemed panel. It’s great to be back
at my alma mater. I am especially grateful that yesterday I was able to join the celebration in honor of
John Taylor. When we experience uncertain economic times with a wide range of possible paths for the
economy, simple policy rules provide a good starting point for assessing how monetary policy may wish
to respond in different scenarios. The Cleveland Fed’s website has a section that looks at federal funds
rate projections based on seven simple policy rules and multiple forecasts, including the rule that John
Taylor published in the year I graduated from Stanford.1 I combine this information with a variety of
economic and financial data, forecasts, and anecdotes from business and community contacts as I think
about the appropriate path for monetary policy.
Recently, the signals about the economy have been decidedly mixed. By many measures, the backward-
looking data have been encouraging, but heightened uncertainty surrounding government policies is
clouding the outlook and raising the risks of higher inflation, slower growth, and softening in the labor
market. So let me briefly share my current view on finishing the job amid new challenges in the economy.
As always, the views I present today are my own and not necessarily those of the Federal Reserve System
or my colleagues on the Federal Open Market Committee.2
Economic Outlook
The economy entered this year with solid momentum, as real gross domestic product increased at a 2-3/4
percent annualized rate during the second half of last year. Based on the first estimate, GDP declined in
the first quarter. Behind this weak headline number, consumer spending and business fixed investment
1 See Knotek II, Edward S., Randal J. Verbrugge, Christian Garciga, Caitlin Treanor, and Saeed Zaman. 2016.
“Federal Funds Rates Based on Seven Simple Monetary Policy Rules.” Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland, Economic Commentary 2016-07. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ec-201607. Quarterly updates are available at
clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/simple-monetary-policy-rules.
2 I am grateful to Edward Knotek for assistance with these remarks.
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both grew at solid rates. A key question is whether this will continue, as national survey measures of
consumer and business sentiment have declined, with many respondents citing policy uncertainty.
At the Cleveland Fed, we compile feedback from regional business and community leaders into our
SORCE indexes, which capture recent and expected trends in the Fourth District’s economy.3 In general,
our contacts report subdued economic activity. In their comments to us, many contacts indicate that they
have paused some spending in light of increased uncertainty surrounding government policies, including
tariffs, immigration, federal spending, and employment. A growing share of contacts expect that their
nonlabor costs are going to rise in the coming months, with many noting higher tariffs as a key factor.
Looking at our maximum employment goal, the US labor market has been healthy. The unemployment
rate was 4.2 percent in April, a relatively low level and similar to readings over the last 12 months, with
solid job gains on average through the first four months of this year.
On our inflation objective, we’ve made good progress, but there is still more work to do to return the
economy to price stability. Headline PCE inflation was 2.3 percent through March. Core PCE inflation,
which excludes the volatile food and energy sectors, was somewhat higher. The Cleveland Fed calculates
several alternative inflation measures that focus on price changes in the center of the distribution in order
to limit the influence of outliers and capture the inflation trend, including the median CPI, trimmed-mean
CPI, and median PCE inflation. These measures have also come down from their highs but are running
above headline inflation and our 2 percent objective. While the recent inflation data have been
encouraging, they are backward-looking and do not capture very recent developments.
3 Before each meeting of the FOMC, the Cleveland Fed provides updates regarding recent and expected regional
business and community conditions via its Survey of Regional Conditions and Expectations (SORCE) indexes. See
clevelandfed.org/sorce.
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On net, the tariffs that have been put in place constitute a substantive change in trade policy. It will take
some time for the overall economic effects of these recently enacted and other proposed changes to
government policies to become clearer in the hard data.
In this dynamic environment, I am considering a variety of data to inform my view on progress toward
our dual mandate goals of maximum employment and price stability. Beyond the usual monthly and
quarterly indicators on growth, inflation, and the labor market, I am looking at higher-frequency data on
evolving conditions. In these times, I find that anecdotal reports from business, community, and financial
market contacts are especially helpful because they provide timely information and additional context to
complement the hard data. Staff at the Cleveland Fed produce and update novel data series to help shed
light on current conditions. One recent project uses natural language processing to quantify the sentiment
of the Federal Reserve’s Beige Book entries as a predictor of recessions.4 In a second project, Cleveland
Fed researchers compile data from advance layoff notices filed under the Worker Adjustment and
Retraining Notification Act, or WARN Act, that serve as a leading indicator for layoffs.5
I also monitor financial conditions to assess their impact on households and businesses. In recent weeks,
financial conditions have been volatile as markets have incorporated new information into asset prices. In
response to tariff announcements in early April, financial conditions tightened on net, as major equity
indices declined, credit spreads widened, and long-term interest rates increased. At the same time, the
dollar weakened against a basket of foreign currencies. This pattern was different from recent “risk-off”
episodes in which equity prices declined, credit spreads widened, the dollar appreciated, and US Treasury
4 See Filippou, Ilias, Christian Garciga, James Mitchell, and My T. Nguyen. 2024. “Regional Economic Sentiment:
Constructing Quantitative Estimates from the Beige Book and Testing Their Ability to Forecast Recessions.”
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Economic Commentary 2024-08. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ec-202408. Data are
updated and available at openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/205881/version/V7/view.
5 See Krolikowski, Pawel M., and Kurt G. Lunsford. 2022. “Advance Layoff Notices and Aggregate Job Loss.”
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Working Paper No. 20-03R. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-wp-202003R. Data are
updated twice a month and available at openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155161/version/V31/view.
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yields fell as domestic and international investors sought the safety of US government bonds. More
recently, as tariff policy has shifted, some of these measures have largely retraced their initial moves.
Markets respond to data and announcements at a high frequency. My job as a policymaker is to separate
the signal from the noise in financial market fluctuations. Doing so allows me to incorporate into my
outlook market trends that are likely to affect the real economy, recognizing that volatility on its own can
have a dampening effect on spending and investment.
Monetary Policy
A common theme from talking with business, community, and financial market contacts is that
uncertainty is elevated. I see risks around both legs of our dual mandate that could lead to higher inflation
outcomes and to lower growth and employment outcomes in the near to medium term. This is a difficult
set of risks for monetary policy to navigate.
Given the economy’s starting point, with inflation still elevated and with both sides of our mandate
expected to be under pressure, there is a strong case to hold monetary policy steady at its current modestly
restrictive setting. I am usually inclined to take action; but in this case, taking no action may be the best
choice to balance the risks coming from further elevated inflation and a slowing labor market. If this
scenario comes to pass, then it will be important to ensure inflation expectations remain well anchored
while assessing the likely magnitude and persistence of the misses to each side of our dual mandate goals.
In terms of inflation, it is certainly possible that increases in tariffs could have only a short-lived effect.
But coming after an extended period of elevated inflation, consumers and businesses may respond
differently to this event than might otherwise have been the case. When clarity is hard to come by,
waiting for additional data will help inform the path ahead.
But other scenarios are certainly possible, and instead of focusing on a modal outlook, I am considering a
range of possible outcomes. If the economy should falter and inflation decline, then it may be appropriate
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to ease policy by lowering the federal funds rate from its current level, perhaps even quickly. If the labor
market remains healthy and inflation moves up persistently, then monetary policy may need to follow a
more restrictive trajectory.
We will simply have to see how events unfold. I would rather be slow and move in the right direction
than move quickly in the wrong direction. Fortunately, with policy at its current modestly restrictive level,
I think we are in position to assess the incoming data, the risks to the outlook, and the appropriate policy
response to achieve our longer-term objectives.
Concluding Topics
Let me conclude with three sets of big-picture topics that I have noted in other venues and that are worth
repeating here.
The first topic is r-star. There is considerable uncertainty over a fundamental concept for policymakers:
how restrictive—or accommodative—is monetary policy.6 My view that monetary policy is only
modestly restrictive is based on my assessment that the economy has been resilient, the labor market has
been healthy, and inflation has come down only slowly under the current setting. Figuring out the neutral
rate is always complicated. There is evidence that the neutral rate changes over time, with some models
and estimates pointing to long-running structural factors and others capturing a role for shorter-term
forces. Fiscal deficits, productivity growth, and the structure of the Fed’s balance sheet are just a few such
factors. Recent and prospective changes in government policies could also affect r-star. This is a topic that
bears watching.
6 See Beth M. Hammack. 2024. “Lake Effect: Views from the Fourth District on the Economy and Monetary
Policy.” Speech given at the City Club of Cleveland, Friday Forum, Cleveland, Ohio, December 6, 2024.
clevelandfed.org/collections/speeches/2024/sp-20241206-views-from-fourth-district-on-economic-and-monetary-
policy.
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My second topic is the Federal Reserve’s plan for the balance sheet.7 Tools, tradeoffs, and assessments of
the level for ample reserves will all be relevant in the near to medium term, but we also need to think over
a longer horizon. What does a “neutral” balance sheet look like, especially on the asset side? Should we
align assets and liabilities, and, if so, how? How much volatility should we be willing to accept in
overnight markets? Ultimately, there may be tradeoffs between the variability in short rates and the size
of the balance sheet. Could there be benefits from separating market-functioning balance sheet actions
from all other actions? I see these questions about the steady state for the balance sheet as worthy of
discussion by the FOMC. My takeaway is that rapidly expanding the balance sheet is easy, but shrinking
it with minimal market impact is harder and takes more time, especially after purchasing a lot of long-
dated assets.
My final topic is the growth of the private-credit market.8 This market fills a financing gap for relatively
higher-risk, middle-market borrowers. There are some financial-stability benefits of the growth in this
market, but there are also some risks. Some of these risks include the market’s relative opacity, the
growing exposure of pension funds and life insurers, and interconnections between private credit and the
banking system. As the rapid growth in private-credit investments compresses returns, these funds may
employ more leverage. In fact, while the level of private-credit fund leverage appears moderate, it has
been notably increasing over the past several years, particularly at business-development companies. As a
Federal Reserve policymaker, I am attuned to the potential financial stability risks from this fast-growing
market.
7 See Beth M. Hammack. 2025. “The Federal Reserve’s Balance Sheet: Some Major League Questions.” Speech
given at the Money Marketeers of New York University, Inc., New York, New York, April 23, 2025.
clevelandfed.org/collections/speeches/sp-20250423-federal-reserve-balance-sheet.
8 See Beth M. Hammack. 2025. “Trading Places: My New View from Inside the Federal Reserve.” Speech given at
Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs and the Bank Policy Institute, 9th Annual SIPA/BPI
Bank Regulation Research Conference, New York, New York, February 27,
2025. clevelandfed.org/collections/speeches/2025/sp-20250227-trading-places-my-new-view-from-inside-the-
federal-reserve.
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And with that, I thank you for your attention. I look forward to the upcoming discussion.
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Beth M. Hammack (2025, May 8). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20250509_beth_m_hammack
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author = {Beth M. Hammack},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {2025},
month = {May},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20250509_beth_m_hammack},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}