speeches · February 10, 2025
Regional President Speech
Beth M. Hammack · President
Show Me the Low Inflation
Beth M. Hammack
President and Chief Executive Officer
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
University of Kentucky Gatton College of Business and Economics
Economic Outlook Conference
Lexington, KY
February 11, 2025
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Introduction
Hello and good morning. I’m grateful to the University of Kentucky’s Gatton College of Business and
Economics for the invitation to join you today. My savvy team knew not to schedule me on the day after
the Super Bowl, when an estimated 23 million people missed work. Hopefully everyone is feeling rested
and energized today. And in hopes of extending football season one more day, in the words of the movie
Jerry Maguire, I hope I had you at hello.
This is my second trip to Kentucky since starting as Cleveland Fed president last summer, and I’ve only
begun to scratch the surface of discoveries in your vibrant state. Among other engagements, I’ve visited
the Kentucky Horse Park, discussed the local economy with Lexington business and community leaders,
and toured a nonprofit workforce development program in Newport. However, I’ve not yet had a chance
to make a single stop on the Bourbon Trail, so I would welcome your recommendations for must-visit
distilleries.
Until then, I’m grateful to have the opportunity to tell you a little bit about how the Federal Reserve is
working to make a positive difference in the economic lives of every American, including right here in
Kentucky. I will also share with you my outlook for the economy and monetary policy. I especially look
forward to your questions, because hearing what’s on your minds is a key ingredient in my view of
appropriate policy. In this way, you can help me help you, but more on that in a moment.
I understand that this conference regularly hosts speakers from the Fed, so to the extent that some of you
are repeat participants, you may already know quite a bit about the institution. For everyone else, let me
give you a brief overview of what the Fed does to support the economy and financial system on behalf of
the American public—and how that affects you. Before I begin, please note that the views I express today
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are my own and not necessarily those of the Federal Reserve System or my colleagues on the Federal
Open Market Committee.1
The Federal Reserve
The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 in response to a wave of financial crises that swept the
country in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The framers of the Federal Reserve Act saw
the need for a central banking “system” rather than a single entity. The new system created a
decentralized institution with public and private characteristics, one that is uniquely capable of serving the
nation’s economic and financial interests free from short-term political pressures.
In Washington DC, the Board of Governors is a federal government agency with seven members who are
appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. The name you most likely recognize from this
body is Jerome Powell, who serves as Board chair. Across the country, 12 regional Reserve Banks,
including the one in Cleveland, serve as the operating arms of the Federal Reserve System. Although we
were created by Congress and we serve the public, the Reserve Banks are not part of the federal
government.
Each Reserve Bank has its own board of directors drawn from different parts of the regional community,
and these boards include business, banking, and nonprofit leaders. The Cleveland Fed represents the
Fourth Federal Reserve District, encompassing the eastern half of Kentucky, all of Ohio, and parts of
Pennsylvania and West Virginia. The Fed’s decentralized structure allows each Reserve Bank to have a
laser focus on its region, gather on-the-ground insights, and bring them into the process of setting policy
for the entire nation. I rely heavily on the perspectives of the Cleveland Bank’s directors, including those
in our branches in Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, and on the input from our advisory council members and
1 I am grateful to members of my staff in the Research and Communications Departments, including Edward Knotek
and Doug Campbell, for assistance with these remarks.
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contacts across the District. We have an Eastern Kentucky Business Advisory Council, and we’re always
looking for new contributors. You can recommend candidates—or yourself—on our website,
clevelandfed.org.
The Fed’s structure is designed to keep us free from short-term political pressures so that we can focus on
our core mission. A wide body of research has found that countries with politically independent central
banks tend to experience lower inflation rates. Other research has concluded that the Fed’s decentralized
structure has allowed the Reserve Banks to contribute new ideas to policymaking as a whole.2 But while
most people know about the Fed’s role in setting interest rates, there is much more to our work than that.
We exist to broadly support the US economy and financial system for the public. To do that, we perform
five general functions.
First, the Fed has a responsibility to promote financial stability, which again was the primary reason for
its founding more than 100 years ago. The Fed monitors the financial landscape for emerging risks while
enforcing rules and regulations aimed at promoting financial system resilience over the longer term. We
also have tools to contain damage if a shock hits the financial system that could have adverse
consequences for the economy.
Second is our supervision and regulation function. The Fed’s Board of Governors in DC controls the
regulatory side and has delegated the examination authority to the 12 Reserve Banks. Our goal here is to
ensure that individual banks and other financial institutions operate safely and soundly. When individual
institutions are stable and provide valuable credit services to households and businesses, they form the
foundation of a strong financial system, one that in turn supports effective monetary policy.
2 Bordo, Michael D., and Edward S. Prescott. 2023. “Federal Reserve Structure and the Production of Monetary
Policy Ideas.” Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Working Paper No. 23-29. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-wp-202329.
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Third on the list of Fed responsibilities is our support for the nation’s payments system. Most of us spend
very little time thinking about the payments system when it’s working—it’s like plumbing—but if
something goes wrong, it’s a big problem. The Fed’s job is to help ensure the whole system runs smoothly
behind the scenes.
A fourth responsibility of the Fed is to promote consumer protection and community development. To
give you an example, I’ll highlight some work by the Cleveland Fed’s community development team,
who conduct outreach and in-depth research on topics such as housing availability and workforce
development. Recently, the team has examined the challenging recovery that eastern Kentucky faces from
the catastrophic flooding that devastated the region in July 2022, destroying more than 500 homes and
damaging thousands of others. Through both research and on-the-ground interviews, the team has noted a
preexisting shortage of available workers in skilled trades to assist the redevelopment and the fact that
many people have chosen to leave the area rather than rebuild their homes and lives there. A third factor
slowing the recovery has been the need to find high-ground sites that will be less susceptible to flooding
in the future.3
The good news is that progress is being made despite these obstacles. The Housing Can’t Wait coalition
has completed work on almost 400 homes, about 90 of which are new construction and the remainder
rehabilitations. Much of the rebuilding is happening safely outside of the floodplain,4 and funding may be
available in the form of community development block grants for repairing flood-damaged infrastructure
and for flood-preparation projects. The tougher news is that eastern Kentucky faces a longstanding
3 See Klesta, Matt. 2023. “Resilience and Recovery: Insights from the July 2022 Eastern Kentucky Flood.” Federal
Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Community Development Reports. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-cd-20230927. See also
Klesta, Matt. 2024. “‘Below the Surface You Still See It’: The Eastern Kentucky Flood, Two Years Later.” Federal
Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Notes from the Field. clevelandfed.org/publications/notes-from-the-field/2024/nftf-
20240717-eastern-kentucky-flood-two-years-later.
4 Gaffney, Austyn. 2025. “Kentucky’s Mountaintop Mines Are Turned Into Neighborhoods,” New York Times.
nytimes.com/2025/01/28/climate/kentuckys-strip-mines-get-turned-into-neighborhoods.html.
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housing shortage, one that will continue to make the region’s efforts to attract new industry an uphill
climb. The Cleveland Fed’s community development team is continuing to monitor the situation and
engage with stakeholders to identify innovative solutions to ensure that the economic recovery can
continue apace. This work aligns with our mission to promote economic opportunity for all.
Collecting and sharing information about how regions like eastern Kentucky are faring is one of the
lesser-known but critical roles that Fed staff play. Our teams conduct surveys and meet regularly with
business and community leaders to learn about what they are seeing and experiencing. This information is
usually available to us before official economic statistics, which can take time to compile and produce. A
summary of this timely qualitative information from the Cleveland Fed and other Reserve Banks is
released to the public two weeks before every FOMC meeting in a publication commonly known as the
Beige Book.5 I also make it a point to talk directly to stakeholders like you throughout the region about
how you’re experiencing the economy. I find this information highly valuable. It provides additional
context and nuance behind the numbers. In essence, your views complete my picture of the economy, and
it’s one of the ways the Fed works to bring Main Street into the conversation about setting policy.
In many respects, the Fourth District is a microcosm of the national economy. Within its borders lies a
range of industries, from manufacturing, agriculture, and mining to medicine and advanced technology.
Like in the rest of the country, the region’s economy has become less manufacturing-intensive and more
services-oriented over time; about 20 percent of its employment today is in goods-producing industries,
compared with 30 percent more than three decades ago. These sectors operate in a variety of
communities, including older industrial cities and rural Appalachian areas.
5 The Cleveland Fed’s most recent Beige Book entry is available via clevelandfed.org/publications/beige-book.
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The Cleveland Fed’s regional analysis team takes the lead in collecting qualitative information from our
business and community contacts in the District. From this information, they produce a series of indices
to track economic trends along several dimensions, including current and expected business activity, labor
market data on employment and wages, and inflation-related data on costs and prices. We deliberately
survey a disproportionately higher number of firms that tend to be leading indicators of economic turning
points, such as those in construction and manufacturing, talking to nearly 150 contacts each cycle. And
starting last week, we began releasing these indices generated from our survey data to the public. The
Cleveland Fed’s Summary of Regional Conditions and Expectations, or SORCE, will be updated eight
times a year and made available on our public website, clevelandfed.org, following the same publication
cadence as the Beige Book.6 You’ll be able to see the same nearly real-time information that I see ahead
of each FOMC meeting—a snapshot of economic conditions in our region.
And this brings me to the final Fed function, setting monetary policy for the nation. Monetary policy
actions are undertaken by the Federal Open Market Committee, or FOMC, which comprises all 12
presidents of the Reserve Banks and the seven governors I mentioned earlier at the Board of Governors in
Washington DC. The 12 Reserve Bank presidents rotate their voting years, with the exception of the
president of the New York Fed, who is a permanent voting member and vice chair of the committee. The
Cleveland Fed president votes in even-numbered years, alternating with the Chicago Fed president, who
votes in odd-numbered years, while most other Reserve Bank presidents vote every three years. Whether
voting that year or not, all of us speak to, listen to, and learn from one another at every meeting.
Our focus at every FOMC meeting is how to achieve the dual mandate of maximum employment and
stable prices given to us by Congress. This mandate may sound straightforward, but the reality is that the
6 For more information on SORCE, see https://www.clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/summary-of-regional-
conditions-and-expectations and Elvery, Joel A. 2024. “Introduction to Cleveland Fed Summary of Regional
Conditions and Expectations (SORCE).” Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, District Data
Brief. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ddb-20241125.
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FOMC takes into account a wide range of information—including the reports that our District contacts
share with us—in assessing how close or how far we are from achieving these goals and how likely the
economy is to reach them, both today and over time.
So let me turn now to how I see the economic landscape.
Economic Activity
Over the last five years, the pandemic and its aftermath have caused tremendous swings in economic
activity, marked by briefly high then very low unemployment, supply chain disruptions, and elevated
inflation. As we start 2025, the US economy is strong, and the labor market is healthy. Inflation has eased
considerably over the last two years, but it remains above the FOMC’s 2 percent objective.
While not a part of our mandate, the broadest measure of economic activity is gross domestic product,
GDP, which captures spending by consumers, businesses, and governments on a wide range of goods and
services. Real GDP, which is adjusted for inflation, grew 2-1/2 percent over the last year. This pace of
growth is similar to the average rate experienced during the 10 years before the pandemic-induced
recession, and it’s higher than most estimates of the economy’s longer-run growth rate.
A key driver of this solid economic growth has been household spending. Consumer spending accounts
for more than two-thirds of GDP in the national data. Consumer spending was strong throughout 2024
and grew at a robust pace in the fourth quarter of last year, supported by the healthy labor market, rising
real wages, and elevated household wealth. We’ve heard from our regional business contacts that
shopping at retail establishments accelerated late last year, with holiday sales coming in stronger than
expected. Auto dealers report more-mixed activity, but they’re optimistic that sales could rise in coming
months now that auto loan rates have fallen.
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In the Cleveland Fed’s District, reports from our contacts point to modest overall growth in economic
activity in recent weeks, a signal reflected in our Cleveland Fed SORCE indices. Activity has been
firming across a range of sectors, including professional and business services, financial services, and
residential construction. One exception has been manufacturing, where some contacts report that general
uncertainty about potential government policy changes could account for the low demand they are seeing.
In general, our contacts are reasonably optimistic and expect activity to increase further in the months
ahead.
With national and regional data, it’s important to recognize that averages and totals can obscure
differences in individual experiences. Our contacts continue to paint a picture of a two-speed economic
expansion, one in which affluent consumers spend readily. At the same time, lower-income households
are more price conscious and, after a period of trading down, face ongoing challenges regarding housing
affordability and food security.
Labor Market
In the labor market, conditions have cooled from where they were in early 2023 but remain healthy.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics’ monthly employment situation report, usually released the first Friday of
each month, provides a wealth of data on the state of the labor market. The report released last Friday
showed that the unemployment rate was 4.0 percent in January and that total nonfarm payroll
employment increased by 143,000. These are good numbers.
Because a single month’s readings may be influenced by any number of idiosyncratic factors—such as
abnormal weather patterns or worker strikes—I examine a variety of data to capture broad trends in the
labor market.
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In early 2023, the unemployment rate had fallen as low as 3.4 percent, the lowest such reading since
1969. While the unemployment rate then began to move higher, over the last nine months it has been
quite steady, with readings between 4.0 and 4.2 percent, similar to my estimate of its longer run value.
Other measures also point to a healthy labor market. Job growth is slower than what it had been early in
the recovery, but we have seen a pickup in job gains on average over the last three months. The ratio of
job vacancies to unemployed workers has come down to levels that are roughly in line with the
prepandemic ratio. Wage growth has moderated from its peak readings, as worker availability has
increased and labor demand has slowed, but it remains elevated, a situation which may reflect strong
productivity growth. Although hiring rates are low, reports of layoffs remain limited, both in the national
data and regionally.
Recruiting workers in high-skill sectors remains an issue for some employers in the District. For example,
a Lexington-area contact noted that hiring physicians and nurse practitioners from outside the region is
difficult. Even though these professionals can command high salaries, the region’s tight housing market
means they are disappointed with the available housing options.
Nonetheless, Lexington is a star among Fourth District metro areas in terms of employment growth since
the onset of the pandemic. Lexington’s 5.5 percent employment growth from February 2020 through
March 2024 is the highest of any metro area in the District and well above the 3.8 percent average growth
for all US metro areas over this period.7 I think this speaks to the strong spirit of collaboration that I’ve
seen in Lexington among the private, public, and nonprofit sectors, including the University of Kentucky
and the business community.
7 See Mills, Russell, and Brett Huettner. 2025. “Postpandemic Employment Recovery in Fourth District Metro
Areas.” Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, District Data Brief. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ddb-20250115.
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Inflation
The cooling in the labor market has helped bring down inflation, but it’s still not all the way back to
where we want it to be. And it’s important to note that a period of elevated inflation, like the one we
recently experienced, leads to a large increase in the price level, which is unlikely to be reversed.
The Cleveland Fed has long been a leader in studying inflation, and the Bank’s Center for Inflation
Research produces and displays a number of useful inflation measures and other resources for
economists, policymakers, and the interested public.8 The FOMC’s preferred measure of inflation is based
on the price index for personal consumption expenditures, what you might know as “PCE inflation.”
Inflation as measured by the consumer price index, or CPI, generally runs a little higher but has followed
a similar pattern. PCE inflation peaked at 7.2 percent in June 2022. As of this past December, it had fallen
to 2.6 percent, helped by declines in energy prices last year, but this reading is still above our objective of
2 percent.
As I do with employment, I consider a variety of inflation measures to assess the role of outliers and to
extract the broader trends. A number of these measures are higher than the most recent PCE inflation
reading, suggesting that a portion of the decline in headline PCE inflation may not be sustained. While
some components’ inflation rates have returned to where they were before the pandemic, when inflation
was running at or below 2 percent, other components’ inflation rates have not.9 A more hopeful signal
comes from looking at the portion of the PCE price index that excludes food, energy, and prices that are
imputed rather than observed in market-based transactions. The good news is that market-based core PCE
inflation, as it’s called, is currently running at 2.4 percent, a little below headline inflation. Cleveland Fed
8 The Center for Inflation Research’s homepage is available at clevelandfed.org/center-for-inflation-research.
9 For example, housing-services inflation remains higher than its prepandemic inflation rate, reflecting catchup of
existing tenant rents to the dynamics of new-tenant rents, as described in Loewenstein, Lara, Jason Meyer, and
Randal J. Verbrugge. 2024. “New-Tenant Rent Passthrough and the Future of Rent Inflation.” Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland, Economic Commentary 2024-17. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ec-202417.
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research finds that this measure has usually had more predictive power for overall inflation than a number
of alternatives.10 However, market-based core inflation historically ran about 14 basis points lower than
PCE inflation from 1990 to 2019. Based on this relationship, we will need to see further disinflation in
market-based core, to readings below 2 percent.
Given that we are coming out of a period of elevated inflation, bringing inflation all the way down to
2 percent remains paramount. In the coming months, I will be watching closely to see if the beginning of
this year again witnesses outsized price increases, similar to what we saw early last year. We are paying
close attention to the ability of Fourth District businesses to raise prices. While contacts generally believe
it has become more challenging to raise prices, approximately one-quarter reported that their outlook for
price growth had increased over the past two months, while few reported reducing their expected price
growth. I am also closely watching the behavior of inflation expectations to ensure they are at levels
consistent with our 2 percent objective. The Cleveland Fed monitors and reports multiple inflation
expectations measures, including the Survey of Firms’ Inflation Expectations, which was just released
yesterday. In some encouraging news, this measure is down from its fourth-quarter reading and at the
upper end of its prepandemic range. Finally, I am carefully watching broad economic conditions and
potential changes in government policies that could impact the outlook for inflation.
The experience of the last few years has reinforced that elevated inflation imposes both real and perceived
costs.11 And we know the distribution of these costs is not borne evenly. I often hear from low- and
moderate-income individuals who continue to struggle with rising prices. The challenge for monetary
policy is to maintain the current healthy labor market conditions while finishing the job of bringing
inflation back to 2 percent on a sustained basis. There is more work to do.
10 Bognanni, Mark. 2020. “A Forecasting Assessment of Market-Based PCE Inflation.” Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland, Economic Commentary 2020-01. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ec-202001.
11 See L’Huillier, Jean-Paul, and Martin DeLuca. 2023. “The Long-Run Costs of Higher Inflation.” Federal Reserve
Bank of Cleveland, Economic Commentary 2023-17. doi.org/10.26509/frbc-ec-202317.
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Monetary Policy
The FOMC is firmly committed to achieving our dual mandate goals of maximum employment and price
stability. Our primary tool for communicating and implementing monetary policy is the target range for
the federal funds rate. During 2022 and 2023, the FOMC sharply increased the fed funds target range to
help bring inflation under control. There were some concerns at the time that doing so would weaken the
economy and the labor market as a necessary cost of reducing inflation.
Fortunately, the US economy is very resilient, and we avoided a sharp downturn while seeing
considerable progress in lowering inflation. Reflecting that cumulative progress on inflation, the cooling
in the labor market, and the evolving balance of risks, the FOMC reduced the fed funds target range last
year by 1 percentage point, to 4-1/4 to 4-1/2 percent. We held the target range steady at our meeting in
January.
Given the economy’s momentum heading into 2025, and with a healthy labor market, we have the luxury
of being patient as we assess the path forward for inflation. We have made good progress, but 2 percent
inflation is not in sight just yet. As long as the labor market remains healthy, I am looking for broad-based
evidence that inflation is sustainably returning to 2 percent before adjusting policy further. While
monetary policy needs to be forward-looking in nature, forecasts are no substitute for realizations. Or as
they might have put it in Jerry Maguire, “show me the low inflation.”
In my mind, there are two major factors that support a patient approach to monetary policy at this
juncture. First, while there are good reasons to expect that inflation will gradually come down to 2 percent
over the medium term, this is far from a certainty, and upside risks to the inflation outlook abound. The
ongoing strength in consumer spending bears watching to see whether it is consistent with easing
inflation. Given the long and variable lags of monetary policy, it may take time to see the impact coming
from last year’s rate cuts, and an acceleration in activity could slow or stall the disinflationary process.
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At the same time, there is uncertainty over what potential government policies may be implemented in the
near term, and there is considerable uncertainty over their attendant economic effects. Thus far, there have
been many proposed changes in regulation, tax and spending policies, immigration policies, and tariffs.
As proposals are implemented, my approach will be to analyze the policies, gather information from our
business and community contacts about the impacts they’re seeing, review relevant academic literature
and economic models, and, finally, observe the incoming financial and economic data before drawing
firm conclusions about the appropriate policy response.
For recently proposed or implemented policies, it will take some time to do this analysis. Taking the case
of tariffs as one example, it is appropriate for policy to be patient in assessing their ultimate effects. There
will be some important questions to answer: How long will the tariffs be in place? What will the effect on
import prices be, and how much will be passed through to consumer prices? Will economic growth be
weighed down by higher prices? How will inflation expectations respond? And will this be a one-time
change in the price level or a more persistent rise in inflation rates?
Given the recent history with elevated inflation, the risks to the inflation outlook appear skewed to the
upside, and this could delay a return to 2 percent and further risk embedding elevated inflation into the
economy.
A second reason to be patient is uncertainty over how restrictive monetary policy actually is. Figuring out
the neutral rate, one which neither stimulates nor restricts economic activity, is always complicated. As I
see strong economic growth, the low unemployment rate, and still-elevated inflation, my overall view as
of today is that monetary policy is only modestly restrictive. But considerable uncertainty surrounds this
assessment, and we may be at or close to a neutral setting already.
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I believe that financial markets and the business community share this view. Broad financial conditions
indices are accommodative, something which does not appear consistent with a view that policy is
meaningfully restrictive. Equity market valuations are high, and the equity risk premium is near zero. As
the FOMC cut the fed funds target over the final months of 2024, long-term interest rates, including
mortgage rates, actually moved up. The increase appears to reflect a variety of factors, including
somewhat higher expected future real rates, higher expected inflation, greater inflation risk, and a notably
larger real term premium. This could reflect optimism among businesses and investors that the economy
is on firmer footing than was initially perceived in September. It will be important to monitor a
constellation of financial market variables alongside business leaders’ outlooks to ascertain whether
financial conditions are broadly consistent with achieving our dual mandate objectives.
Given current economic conditions, it will likely be appropriate to hold the funds rate steady for some
time. A patient approach will allow us to assess the health of the labor market, whether inflation is
returning to 2 percent on a sustained basis, and how the economy is performing in the current rate
environment. We are well positioned to respond to changes in the outlook to achieve our maximum
employment and price stability objectives.
Conclusion
I’ve covered a lot of ground today, so let me give you the bite-sized version: The Fed is focused on its
mission to support the economy and financial system on behalf of the public. Right now, the economy is
in a good place, and policy is calibrated to keep us here with healthy conditions in the labor market and
continued downward pressure on inflation for a return to our 2 percent objective. We recognize that
although the overall economic picture looks positive, there are families who are still struggling. At the
Cleveland Fed, our teams are active in communities across the Fourth District, including Lexington, to
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help us better understand regional economic developments. We have many resources to help you; please
visit clevelandfed.org to see how you can engage with us.
One of the ways you can do that is to send me an email. You can find my contact information on our
website. I look forward to your questions and comments, and believe me—you’ll have me at hello.
Cite this document
APA
Beth M. Hammack (2025, February 10). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20250211_beth_m_hammack
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author = {Beth M. Hammack},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {2025},
month = {Feb},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20250211_beth_m_hammack},
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