speeches · January 2, 2020
Regional President Speech
Tom Barkin · President
Is a Recession Around the Corner?
Thomas I. Barkin
President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
Maryland Bankers Association First Friday Economic Outlook Forum
Baltimore, Maryland
January 3, 2020
Thank you very much for inviting me to join you this morning. It’s a pleasure to have the
opportunity to speak with you again. With apologies to those of you who heard me speak last
year, I’d like to start by telling you a bit about myself, and then I’ll share my perspective on the
national economy.
I joined the Richmond Fed two years ago after a 30-year career in consulting at
McKinsey, where I was our CFO and led our offices in the South. I’ve spent my professional life
helping firms make decisions about hiring, compensation and prices, and I’ve made a lot of those
decisions myself. So I hope I’m bringing a different perspective to the Federal Open Market
Committee (FOMC). My colleagues on the committee are some of the most talented
macroeconomists, bankers, academics and financial regulators in the country. But as the only
committee member coming from management, I approach things differently.
To help inform my perspective, I’ve made it a priority to travel throughout the Richmond
Fed’s district, talking to business and community leaders to make sure I’m in close touch with
what’s happening in our economy. I’m in Maryland a lot, and I really appreciate the opportunity
to meet with groups like this and hear your reactions and questions.
Today, I want to focus on a question I hear a lot: Is there a recession around the corner?
This is a reasonable question to ask. After all, at more than 10 years, the current upturn is the
longest on record. They call it the business “cycle” for a reason—at some point things are going
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to turn back down, aren’t they? We’ve also seen yield curve inversions recently, which
historically have been very good predictors of a recession. And, after more than a year of
relatively strong GDP growth, the economy has slowed recently, toward around 2 percent.
When it comes to answering this question, economists are notoriously bad at predicting
the future. Fortunately, I’m not an economist… but it’s not clear that businesspeople are that
great at it either. At the end of 2018, nearly half of CFOs in the Duke CFO survey were
predicting a recession by the end of 2019—one that hasn’t yet happened. As Yogi Berra
famously said, “It’s tough to make predictions—especially about the future.”
But I’m here and I have a microphone so let me try to answer anyway. Before I say more,
however, I have to note that the views I express are my own and not necessarily those of my
colleagues on the FOMC or in the Federal Reserve System.1
Current Signs of Economic Strength
Now, it’s true that this has been a long expansion. But expansions don’t die of old age;
they die of heart attacks. One pundit once said, about the Volcker years, that the Fed murders
them.
Look at the recessions over the past 40 years. In the early 1980s, the Fed’s policies to
tame runaway inflation caused two recessions back-to-back. A decade later, the savings and loan
crisis and an oil price shock led to the 1991 recession. The dot-com bust and the tragedy of Sept.
11 precipitated the recession in 2001, and the subprime mortgage crisis and ensuing financial
meltdown created the Great Recession in 2007-09. None of these were a situation where we
gradually drifted into a recession—to find one like that you’d have to go back to the 1970s.
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In fact, along many dimensions the economy looks quite healthy. First and foremost, the
labor market is very strong. The unemployment rate was 3.5 percent in November—the lowest
rate since 1969—and the economy added 266,000 jobs. There are about 1 million more job
openings than job seekers. Consequently, we’re seeing employers willing to take a chance on
people they might have passed over a few years ago. And wage growth is picking up—earnings
have increased 3.1 percent over the past 12 months and even more for lower-paying jobs. At the
same time, inflation is low and stable at around 1.6 percent. The resulting increase in real wages
matters.
The strength of the labor market helps consumers feel confident: They have jobs, and
their earnings are increasing. Credit markets are open. Both consumer spending and saving are
strong.
I did mention that GDP growth has slowed. But “slowing” isn’t the same as
“underperforming.” Why is that? To put it very simply, economic growth depends on how many
people are working and how productive they are. That means the economy can only grow as
quickly as workforce growth plus productivity growth. Productivity growth averaged just 1
percent between 2013 and 2018. Over the same period, workforce growth averaged 0.8 percent.
Adding these up, we’d predict GDP growth of around 2 percent—which is right where we are.
To me, the current numbers suggest we’re converging to normal levels rather than
underperforming.
Would I like to see faster GDP growth? Of course. That requires boosting productivity
growth or increasing the size of the workforce. To achieve the latter, we need to either draw
people off the sidelines of the labor force or increase immigration, which has contributed to
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about half of workforce growth since the 1990s. These topics are beyond the scope of my
remarks today, but they’re important for policymakers to pay attention to.2
The upshot is that the economy is growing at about the rate we would expect it to grow.
The Future: The Upside
Of course, today isn’t a promise of tomorrow. Let me tell a cautionary tale: During the
year preceding the 1970 recession, GDP growth averaged 3 percent and unemployment averaged
3.5 percent. Before the 2001 recession, we experienced 3 percent GDP growth and 4 percent
unemployment. And in the year before home prices peaked in mid-2006, GDP averaged
3.4 percent and unemployment averaged under 5 percent. Things can change.
So what indicators am I watching for signs that a change might be coming? I pay a lot of
attention to what consumers are spending on big ticket items, because consumer spending is
almost 70 percent of GDP. If you feel unsure about the future, you might delay buying a house or
car or new furniture. But right now consumers remain confident and are buying. Real consumer
spending on durable goods was up 5.6 percent over the previous year in the third quarter of 2019
and has increased every quarter since 2011. Housing demand is solid: Pending home sales are up
4.4 percent over the same time last year, and housing starts are trending up. In addition, the
demand for automobiles remains strong; vehicle sales reached 17.1 million (at an annual rate) in
November.
Consumers are willing to spend when they have jobs. Another leading indicator is initial
claims for unemployment insurance, which you can think of as a proxy for layoffs. Right now,
initial claims are near a 50-year low even though the labor force is larger than ever.
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Initial claims are one component of the Conference Board’s Leading Economic Index,
another measure I watch closely because it has been a good predictor of recessions in the past.3
The index also includes indicators such as new building permits, manufacturing activity and
consumer lending. It has declined slightly the past few months, but it’s still well above the levels
that would indicate a recession is on the horizon.
The Future: The Downside
The data I’ve described so far point to continued growth. But you might feel less
optimistic looking at the yield curve, which, as I noted, has inverted several times recently. It’s
true that an inverted yield curve has preceded recessions in the past—but it doesn’t cause
recessions. If underlying economic conditions change, so could the meaning of the signal. For
example, recent research by the Richmond Fed found that term premiums (the compensation one
receives or pays for locking up their funds for a period of time) have fallen significantly since the
1980s. This makes the yield curve structurally flatter, and therefore makes an inversion more
likely even if no recession is coming. We could also be seeing international savings move toward
higher-yielding U.S. Treasury bills at a time when negative interest rates make their home
government bonds relatively unattractive. I think the current behavior of the yield curve reflects
the flow of funds rather than a looming recession.
Some observers also are concerned about recent contractions in manufacturing activity,
as measured by declines in the ISM’s Purchasing Managers Index. But we saw similar dips in
2012 and 2015, after which activity rebounded, and the index is still well above the level that
indicates the economy as a whole is contracting. In addition, manufacturing has declined
considerably as a share of nominal GDP (from about 30 percent in the early 1950s to 12 percent
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in 2015) and as a share of employment (from 30 percent to just 8 percent). So it might not have
the same explanatory power.
Now, business investment is an area I watch closely, and that I do worry about. It has
been weak recently, falling 3 percent in the third quarter of 2019.
What explains that weakness? In my view, it’s uncertainty. Between Brexit, the Middle
East, immigration and the ongoing negotiations with China—to name just a few—it’s been a
roller coaster both here and abroad. Economists from Northwestern, Stanford and the University
of Chicago have developed an “economic uncertainty index” that gauges the degree of
uncertainty in 24 different countries. The “global” index hit its all-time high in August, and it
remains elevated.4
Add political polarization and regulatory uncertainty to the mix and it’s tough for
businesses to feel like they’re on solid ground—and how can you invest when you don’t know
the rules? Uncertainty can also make firms less confident about hiring and pricing. So I don’t
discount the idea that we could talk ourselves into a recession, particularly if the uncertainty
begins to affect consumer confidence and spending.5
And of course there’s always the possibility of a “heart attack,” or shock, perhaps caused
by global risks. Imagine an escalation with Iran or a collapse in international economies.
Financial risks are also worth watching: Markets recently hit their all-time highs. In addition,
corporate debt has increased significantly at the same time the covenants governing those loans
have become more lax. Between 70 and 75 percent of these loans are not on banks’ books, which
means regulators have very little visibility into the potential risks.
Another area where regulators lack full visibility is cybersecurity, and these risks keep me up
at night too.
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Implications for Policy
So far I’ve described an economy that looks healthy in many respects, although we face
some downside risks and potential shocks. In this context, what should policymakers do?
The FOMC bought some “insurance,” as Chair Powell has described it, against the
uncertainty last year by lowering the fed funds target rate 75 basis points. I think we’re seeing
this insurance pay off through the traditional channels, such as auto and home sales.
Policymakers are also continuing to promote financial stability. We’ve made a lot of progress
over the past decade, but we need to continue to be proactive about monitoring the risks we
might face in the future.
The current environment makes it even more important to step up on the fiscal side. By
this, I don’t mean using the traditional levers of spending and taxation. Today, I think we have to
broaden the definition of fiscal policy to incorporate the climate for business. That includes trade
actions and trade uncertainty, regulatory changes and regulatory uncertainty, geopolitical
challenges and domestic politics. In my view, the biggest boost to our economy would come
from lessening the uncertainty and lowering the volume. I am hopeful that the recent election in
the United Kingdom, the passage of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA)
and the trade deal with China will do that. That would build business confidence, build consumer
confidence and lead to increased investment, spending and hiring. I like to say that American
businesses are creative. Give them the rules—almost any set of rules—and they will make things
happen. We’ve seen that with Brexit. Three years ago, the current path was projected to be
economically destructive. But you see the positive reaction with the election—businesses just
want to know the rules.
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Net, the economy is still healthy. I’m encouraged by recent jobs reports and the pace of
holiday spending. I’m hopeful recent events will lessen uncertainty and build confidence. While
there is always the risk of a shock, the Fed has done a lot to support the economy’s continued
expansion and to provide buffers against the downside.
I would note that recession isn’t inevitable. Australia has gone 27 years without one. Or
another way to say that is that a policymaker, like me, is still allowed to dream!
Thank you, and now I’d love to take your questions.
1 Thank you to Jessie Romero for assistance preparing these remarks.
2 Thomas I. Barkin, “Ensuring Longer-Term Growth,” Speech at the Greater Raleigh Chamber of Commerce’s 2019
Economic Forecast Event, Raleigh, N.C., January 10, 2019; “A Practitioner’s Perspective on the Productivity
Slowdown,” Speech at the Virginia Association of Economists’ Annual Meeting, Richmond, Va., April 4, 2019;
“Getting People off the Sidelines: The Ultimate Workforce Development Plan,” Speech at the Danville Chamber of
Commerce’s Workforce Summit, Danville, Va., November 12, 2019.
3 Matthew Murphy, Jessie Romero, and Roy Webb, “Predicting Recessions,” Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
Economic Brief no. 19-12, December 2019.
4 Scott R. Baker, Nicholas Bloom, and Steven J. Davis, Economic Policy Uncertainty Index.
5 Thomas I. Barkin, “Sentiment and the Real Economy,” Speech to the New York Association for Business
Economics, New York, N.Y., May 15, 2019.
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author = {Tom Barkin},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {2020},
month = {Jan},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20200103_tom_barkin},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}