speeches · November 4, 2019
Regional President Speech
Tom Barkin · President
The New Environment for Monetary Policy
Thomas I. Barkin
President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
Greater Baltimore Committee Economic Outlook Conference
Baltimore, Maryland
November 5, 2019
Thank you very much for inviting me to join you. You’ll be hearing a lot about the national and
regional economies this morning. So I thought I would take a step back and talk with you about
policy—specifically, how I interpret economic data through the lens of monetary policy. Please
note that the views I express are my own and not necessarily those of my colleagues on the
Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) or in the Federal Reserve System.1
Economic Outlook
Before I talk about how I’m interpreting the data, let me say a few words about my background
and perspective. I joined the Richmond Fed almost two years ago after a 30-year career in
consulting at McKinsey, where I had roles including chief financial officer and leading our
offices in the South. I’ve spent my professional life helping firms make decisions about hiring,
compensation and prices, and I’ve made a lot of those decisions myself. So I hope I’m bringing a
different perspective to the FOMC. My colleagues on the committee are some of the most
talented macroeconomists, bankers, academics and financial regulators in the country. But as the
only committee member coming from management, I approach things differently.
So how do I take a policy look at the national economy? First, I ask where we are today: My
answer is that the economy remains healthy. GDP growth was 1.9 percent in the third quarter. It
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has averaged 2.3 percent year to date, which is above the trend of around 2 percent you’d
estimate from the sum of population and productivity growth.
That growth is being strongly supported by consumers. Households are spending, and that’s
important because consumer spending accounts for nearly 70 percent of GDP. And even with
some recent drops, consumer confidence is near all-time highs.
What’s behind that confidence? Primarily, it’s the strength of the labor market. The
unemployment rate is near a 50-year low, at just 3.6 percent in October. In fact, there are roughly
1 million more job openings than there are people looking for work; and there have been more
jobs than job seekers since March of last year, the first time that’s happened in the 20-year
history of this data series. And wages are increasing while inflation remains muted. In October,
wages were up 3 percent over the year before, while inflation has been running around 1.7
percent, just under our 2 percent target. The resulting increase in real wages matters.
Although job growth has slowed some, which you’d expect to see as we near trend and markets
tighten, we’re still averaging nearly 170,000 new jobs per month this year. That’s still above
“breakeven”—the Atlanta Fed estimates we need 107,000 jobs per month to maintain 3.6 percent
unemployment with current population growth. So, the economy remains sound.
The second question I ask is, even with a healthy economy today, how likely is it that there’s a
recession on the horizon? You may have the same question, as I get asked this a lot. I have to
say—absent shocks—I don’t see one being imminent, unless we talk ourselves into one.2 In other
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words, as long as consumers keep spending, we will be in a good place. Housing demand has
rebounded over the past several months, and auto spending has continued to be strong. Both of
these are reliable indicators of the strength of consumer mindsets. And, if you want to test the
health of the labor market, you might monitor initial claims for unemployment insurance, a
rough measure of layoffs. They are as low as they’ve been since the late 1960s in absolute
numbers, despite the growth in our population. Finally, the Conference Board publishes a pretty
credible set of leading indicators of the economy. There is no evidence there that we’re faltering,
so I remain hopeful about our prospects.
The third question I ask myself is whether the risks are balanced, and here I would acknowledge
that they are tilted to the downside. These headwinds are mostly driven by uncertainty around
trade and politics. Between Brexit, the Middle East, immigration, and the ongoing negotiations
with China—to name just a few—it’s been a roller coaster both here and abroad. And we’re
seeing international economies struggle. GDP growth has slowed in China and stalled in the
eurozone. In the second quarter, growth was actually negative in Germany, Europe’s largest
economy. There’s a risk that weakness will affect us. Here at home, manufacturing activity has
slowed amid trade concerns.
Against this background, it’s not surprising that we’ve seen weakness in business investment. It
shrank 3 percent in the third quarter. And the bond market has sent some concerning signals
lately. The yield on 10-year Treasuries has been very low given the overall strength of the
economy and has actually been lower at times than the yield on 2-year Treasuries. As you
probably know, such an inversion of the yield curve is historically a good predictor of a
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recession. But is that what the yield curve is signaling now, or are we just seeing a move toward
higher-yielding safe assets at a time when international rates are historically low?
Overall, I think it’s safe to say the economy is giving us conflicting signals. The strength of
consumption and the labor market might be saying “hold” or even “raise rates,” while the
softness of investment, inflation and the bond market might be saying “lower rates.” How have
policymakers thought about it?
In 2018, the risk seemed to be the economy “overheating.” With interest rates well below
“normal” levels, strong GDP growth, fiscal stimulus and a tight labor market, we raised the
target rate four times, with many FOMC participants projecting additional rate increases the
following year. But in early 2019, political and global turmoil signaled more risk to the
downside. The committee decided to pause and take a patient approach, with a much flatter
projected rate path.
Then, with inflation muted, continued uncertainty and international weakness, we lowered the
target rate 75 basis points over the past three meetings. The FOMC’s decision to lower rates
doesn’t mean a recession is imminent. But it does reflect the fact that there is a lot of uncertainty
about the outlook, particularly with respect to global growth and the impact of trade. So it seems
prudent to take out some “insurance,” as Chair Powell said in July. A year ago, FOMC
participants were projecting 2020 rates more than 130 basis points higher than the most recent
Summary of Economic Projections. That’s powerful support for our economy.
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The New Environment
Now, let’s take a step back from the data and recognize that monetary policy is operating in a
new and different environment.
What do I mean by that? When I was in school, I learned about both monetary policy and fiscal
policy. The key fiscal policy levers were spending and taxation. But today, I think we have to
broaden the definition of fiscal policy to incorporate the government’s impact on the climate for
business. That includes trade actions and trade uncertainty, regulatory changes and regulatory
uncertainty, geopolitical challenges and domestic politics.
With the roller coaster I mentioned, it’s been tough for businesses to feel like they’re on solid
ground. Economists from Northwestern, Stanford and the University of Chicago have developed
an “economic uncertainty index” that gauges the degree of uncertainty in 24 different countries.3
The “global” index hit its all-time high in August. In the third quarter Duke CFO survey, more
than half of CFOs said they were less optimistic about the U.S. economy than they had been the
previous quarter—double the share of the year before.
The climate for business is already a challenge. Tariffs are taxes and—unless businesses shift
their supply chains—impose direct costs on target industries. International economies are
struggling as they try to adapt to changes in the global trade regime that the United States created
after World War II. When financial markets react to the news cycle, as they did earlier this year,
you see impacts on consumer spending. And health care regulation has to be affecting health care
firms’ investment plans.
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Uncertainty is having an impact too. It dampens business confidence, which can lead to lower
investment, less hiring and potentially even less confidence in pricing. After all, how can you
invest when you don’t know the rules? Uncertainty raises the threshold for action.4 Hearkening
back to my days as a CFO, I think of it as equivalent to an increase in investment hurdle rates.
Firms today are frustrated with political polarization and uncertainty about regulation. They tell
me they’re not scaling back yet, but they’re reluctant to double down. For these reasons, I don’t
discount the idea that we could talk ourselves into a recession—particularly if the uncertainty
begins to affect consumer confidence and spending.
Uncertainty also lessens the effectiveness of traditional policy, both fiscal and monetary. For
example, the country is running historically large deficits, and Congress passed a significant tax
cut in late 2017. Normally, one would imagine both these traditional fiscal policy levers should
boost the economy. In early 2018, we did see strong growth and an investment boom. But those
numbers dropped quickly as trade concerns came to dominate the headlines and outweighed the
impetus from fiscal stimulus.
Turning to monetary policy, uncertainty can also dampen the impact we might expect from any
policy “stance.” Accommodative monetary policy stimulates the economy. But in the presence of
high uncertainty—nearly all of which is generated by forces extraneous to what the FOMC
does—we risk not getting the same “bang for the buck.” The stimulus to borrow could be
outweighed by perceived risks to future cash flow.
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We might also view an accommodative monetary policy stance as powerful in shaping financial
market valuations. But again, high uncertainty scrambles the signals. Financial markets are being
moved by trade these days rather than by our policy stance.
Policy Options
If the current uncertainty is temporary, then the right course of action is to see through it the way
we might see through movements in the more volatile components of inflation. The divergence
we see between strong consumption and weaker investment may well be signaling that the
uncertainty won’t persist. The recent headway made on trade negotiations may lessen our
downside, as might the progress being made in the Brexit negotiations.
But if we’re in a more uncertain environment for the long term, we’ll have to recognize that even
though we have tools to use, they’re potentially less effective. For that reason, I’m closely
monitoring whether the recent “insurance” the FOMC purchased will have its intended effect.
More broadly, the Fed is undertaking a review to ask if we have the right monetary policy
strategy and tools to achieve our dual mandate, given low inflation and the risk of returning to
the zero lower bound in the current environment. A number of topics are on the table, including
“makeup” strategies for inflation shortfalls, balance sheet policies, forward guidance and
communications strategies.
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I won’t go into detail about these various options this morning, but I will say that in general I’m
hopeful we can develop a portfolio of tools to help us support the economy, as I’m skeptical that
any one tool can truly overcome significant fiscal headwinds.
That’s why, in my view, it’s even more important to step up on the fiscal side and improve the
climate for business. The biggest boost to our economy would come from lessening the
uncertainty and lowering the volume. That would build business confidence, build consumer
confidence and lead to increased investment, spending and hiring. Look at the market reaction
when it seemed like there was a Brexit deal. Originally, leaving the eurozone was viewed as a
calamitous choice. Now, markets are so relieved that the rules are clear, they reward the
decision. American businesses are creative. Give them the rules—almost any set of rules—and
they will make things happen.
The Future
Where do we go from here? I actually don’t have an answer to that question. But I think we face
three meaningful conflicts that I am watching closely. First, U.S. consumer spending is strong,
but U.S. investment is weak. The leading indicators are still robust, as I said, but will that remain
the case if business investment weakens further? Second, the U.S. economy is strong, but
international economies are weak. I heard an economist say that historically, we don’t import
recessions—we export them. But will that still be the case in our increasingly globally connected
economy? Third, the bond market is pessimistic, but the stock market is still upbeat. Experience
says the bond market wins—but is the bond market sending us the same signals it used to when
rates are so low?
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Those are enough questions from me. Now, I’d love to hear yours.
1 Thank you to Jessie Romero for assistance preparing these remarks.
2 Thomas I. Barkin, “Confidence, Expectations and Implications for Monetary Policy,” Speech at the Rocky
Mountain Economic Summit, Victor, Idaho, July 11, 2019.
3 Scott R. Baker, Nicholas Bloom, and Steven J. Davis, Economic Policy Uncertainty Index.
4 Nicholas Bloom, “The Impact of Uncertainty Shocks,” Econometrica, May 2009, vol. 77, no. 3, pp. 623-685.
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author = {Tom Barkin},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {2019},
month = {Nov},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_20191105_tom_barkin},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}