speeches · May 8, 2014
Regional President Speech
Richard W. Fisher · President
Comments on Tailored Regulation and
Forward Guidance
(With Reference to Dr. Seuss, Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke
and Other Serious Economists)
Remarks before the Louisiana Bankers Association
th
114 Annual Convention and Expo
Richard W. Fisher
President and CEO
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
New Orleans, Louisiana
May 9, 2014
The views expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect official positions of the Federal Reserve System.
Comments on Tailored Regulation and Forward Guidance
(With Reference to Dr. Seuss, Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke
and Other Serious Economists)
Richard W. Fisher
Thank you, Drake (Mills). Your service as president of the Federal Reserve Board’s Community
Depository Institutions Advisory Council is greatly appreciated. You are kind to have a Texan
come speak to you and your fellow Louisiana bankers, though this is not without precedent: The
great blues guitarist and singer Clarence Garlow may have been born in Louisiana, but he had
long lived in Texas before he recorded “Bon Ton Roula” in 1949 and gave New Orleans the
reputation of the American city where les bon temps rouler.
It would be hard to say that the good times are rolling for community bankers, though the pace
and rhythm of the economies of the U.S. and Louisiana and your next-door neighbor, Texas, are
getting stronger daily.
I have been outspoken as to why our community banks feel besieged. Everyone in this room and
their sister or brother knows what I preach about the continuing problem of banks considered
“too big to fail” and the witches’ brew that was concocted by Congress, known as Dodd–Frank.
My colleagues at the Dallas Fed and I submit that Louisiana’s and the nation’s community and
regional banks play on an uneven playing field against the giant money-center banks. The Fed is
coming down hard on the big guys to ensure they are adequately capitalized and liquid. We are
using all means within our power to make sure they never again place the American taxpayer at
risk by bringing the financial system to its knees. But the fact remains that the big banks have a
greater share of the deposit market than ever, are coming into our communities and regions to
lend money on terms and at prices that any banker with a memory cell knows from experience
usually end in tears, and are putting independent bankers in a precarious position.
And as to Dodd–Frank, I am skeptical that the bureaucracy and rules and regulations this
massive legislative initiative has created, even with the careful execution by the Fed, will
vanquish too big to fail—the law’s very intention as stated in its preamble. But of this I am
certain: It has made the lives of community and regional banks vastly more complicated. Like
almost anything that comes out of the U.S. Congress, it has primarily been a boon to lawyers and
consultants and compliance officers, adding to expenses but doing little to help you grow your
businesses.
We at the Dallas Fed are acutely conscious of this. We think of Dodd–Frank as akin to what Dr.
Seuss once wrote about medicine:
When at last we are sure
You’ve been properly pilled,
Then a few paper forms
Must be properly filled.
So that you and your heirs
May be properly billed.1
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Interest margins for community and regional banks have been shrinking for some 20 years. To be
sure, the low interest rates the Fed has engineered to bring the economy out of the death spiral
threatened by the Financial Panic of 2007–09 exacerbated pressures on margins as we awaited
the strengthening economy we are now beginning to experience. But adding the pills and the
bills of extra layers of compliance and legal expenses generated by Dodd–Frank has
compounded the difficulty of passing on profitable franchises to your banking heirs.
This is why, Systemwide, the Fed has been sensitive to the situation of banks under $50 billion,
and especially sensitive to the situation of banks with less than $10 billion in footings. To be
sure, we are as committed as ever to safety and soundness and the application of the law; we
always have been and always will be. But at the Dallas Fed, we believe we can apply the
requisite discipline required to safeguard our banking system in a way that is beneficial to
regional and community banks. We and our fellow Federal Reserve Banks have worked hard to
instill a constructive and interactive relationship, rather than a hostile, purely formulaic one, with
the banks we supervise. You might have noted that Janet Yellen’s speech of May 1 to the
Independent Community Bankers was titled “Tailored Supervision of Community Banks.” The
Federal Reserve banks take this charge seriously.
This is no idle claim. Just looking at the Eleventh District, we are increasingly being petitioned
by banks for membership in the Federal Reserve System. The number of state member banks in
the Dallas Fed district increased by 8 percent in 2012, by 19 percent in 2013, and we have
already increased membership an annualized 26 percent in the first three months of 2014.
So I would just say this to those of you who are madder than (bleep!) about what Congress and
the regulators have wrought: The Federal Reserve knows what community and regional banks do
for their communities. We appreciate that you are the backbone for the homeowners, small
businesses, service clubs and school sports teams and scouts and churches and myriad other
activities that make for better communities. We want you not only to endure, but to succeed and
grow. And we want to make sure you play on an even playing field with those who have legions
of white-shoe lawyers and K Street lobbyists you couldn’t dream of affording.
I wanted to just say that at the outset.
Monetary Policy Going Forward: De-Spiking the Punch Bowl 10 Ounces at a Time
Now, if you will indulge me, I want to speak of the direction of monetary policy from here
onward.
The Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) is in the process of winding down its massive
purchases of Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. At our last meeting, in recognition that
the economy is improving and acknowledging that we have generated massive amounts of
excess reserves among depository institutions operating in the U.S., we voted to reduce our
purchases to a combined $45 billion per month, on the path to eliminating them at the earliest
practicable date. Speaking only for myself as a voting member, barring some destabilizing
development in the real economy that comes out of left field, I will continue to vote for the pace
of reduction we have undertaken, reducing by $10 billion per meeting our purchases and
eliminating them entirely at the October meeting with a final reduction of $15 billion.
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I was not for this program, popularly known as QE3, to begin with. I doubted its efficacy and
was convinced that the financial system already had sufficient liquidity to finance recovery
without providing tinder for future inflation. But I lost that argument in the fall of 2012, and I am
just happy that we will be rid of the program soon enough.
I am often asked why I do not support a more rapid deceleration of our purchases, given my
agnosticism about their effectiveness and my concern that they might well be leading to froth in
certain segments of the financial markets. The answer is an admission of reality: We juiced the
trading and risk markets so extensively that they became somewhat addicted to our
accommodation of their needs. You may remember the “taper tantrum” market operators threw
last spring when we broached the idea of temperance. It went over about as big as would saying
you wanted to ban Hurricanes and other happy-making libations here in New Orleans!
Preventing Market Seizures and the DTs
Until just recently, Herb Kelleher was chairman of the Dallas Fed board. I can safely say that I
had the funniest chairman of any Federal Reserve Bank, and one of the smartest ever. Herb is not
only the iconic founder of Southwest Airlines, but he is also an iconic consumer of Wild Turkey
Bourbon. A wise man, he advised me that you can’t go from Wild Turkey to cold turkey
overnight. So despite having argued against spiking the punchbowl to the degree we did, I have
accepted that the prudent course of action and the best way to prevent the onset of market
seizures and delirium tremens is to gradually reduce and eventually eliminate the flow of excess
liquidity we have been supplying. The financial markets now seem to be unperturbed by and
appear to be fully discounting the reduction pattern I am supporting.
You should bear in mind that the Fed works directly only with depository institutions. And that
they represent only a fifth or less of the credit markets in the U.S. And yet as I speak, depository
institutions, including foreign banks doing business in the United States, have $2.5 trillion in
excess reserves on the books of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks. So one would be hard pressed to
say that ending our asset purchases, which the depository institutions from which we buy them
deposit back with us as excess reserves, would deny the economy needed liquidity.
“Normalizing” Policy
The focus of our discussions now is when and how to “normalize” monetary policy. Given that
we work directly with only 20 percent or less of the highly developed U.S. credit intermediation
system, this becomes a complicated matter. It raises questions, for example, about whether we
should focus on the federal funds rate, which has been our traditional fulcrum, or some other
measure, such as the rate we pay on excess reserves or that we pay on overnight reverse repos or
some mix thereof. You can expect to hear more about this as time passes. Today, I am going to
focus on another aspect of “normalization,” and that is: Once we have wound down QE3, when
are we likely to raise the short-term rate that anchors the yield curve?
In the parlance of the trade, market operators and bankers alike are seeking “forward guidance”
about our intentions. I spoke about this at length in a recent speech in Hong Kong, and I refer
you to that speech if you need a sleeping aid this evening.2
The Advent of the Dots
The intense focus on when we are likely to raise the overnight rate is understandable. I was a
banker in my previous life, before migrating to portfolio management; I spent 20 years in both
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professions before going into public service so as to “pay it back.” As a banker and market
operator, I naturally wanted to eliminate uncertainty as much as possible. The adage “don’t fight
the Fed,” was prevalent then, as it is now, so I would garner as much knowledge as possible
about future Federal Reserve intentions and moves in order to position my book.
Then, we had little information. The FOMC under Paul Volcker did not even announce its
decisions, and the market was left to discover them on its own. Later, under Alan Greenspan, the
FOMC began the process of releasing information about decisions taken, but any clues as to
future intentions required one to divine some signal from the chairman’s almost mystical
pronouncements and oracular circumlocution. Chairman Ben Bernanke worked with the FOMC
to instill greater transparency under the assumption that providing as much information as we
can enlightens markets so as to modulate the possible disruption of surprises and allows
decision-makers—from consumers to businesses to bankers and investors—to plan forward. To
this end, we now release copious amounts of information, including the forecasts of economic
activity and the year-end level at which we see the rate on overnight money trading, as foreseen
by each individual FOMC participant under his or her assessment of appropriate monetary
policy.
We call this exercise the Summary of Economic Projections, or SEP for short. We release it
quarterly. I draw your attention to it because it has become something of a phenomenon among
analysts preoccupied with the entrails of policymaking and has taken on a life of its own. You
read about it in the papers and get analysis of it from market soothsayers. Yet, I want to caution
you against becoming overly preoccupied with the FOMC’s SEP. In my less than humble
opinion, it is a flawed tool. Let me explain why.
Here is what the last SEP release for the fed funds rate looked like. It provided the FOMC
participants’ projections for the overnight rate at year-end for the next three years and beyond to
the “longer run,” as foreseen from March 19:
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Federal Reserve Policy Projections
NOTE: Each “dot” indicates the value of an individual FOMC participant’s judgment of the appropriate level of the
target federal funds rate at the end of the specified calendar year or over the longer run.
SOURCE: Federal Reserve Board of Governors.
You can see why it is referred to in the business as “the dot chart.” The best guesses of the entire
panoply of participants in FOMC deliberations—19 when we have a full complement (the 12
Fed bankers and the maximum of seven governors appointed by the president subject to approval
of the Senate)—are summarized in dots with the expected level on the “y-axis” and the year at
the end of which it is thought likely to occur on the “x-axis.”
I use the term “best guesses” deliberately. The participants in the FOMC have sophisticated
econometric models, a deep knowledge of theory and a great breadth of experience to draw
upon. But truth be told, however we dress up our forecasts as rigorous analysis, they are no more
than the very best educated guesses of the superbly trained but still human staffs of the 12 Fed
bankers and the active governors.
And the composition of those among the FOMC participants who actually vote on policy
changes periodically. With the departure of Governor Jeremy Stein at the end of this month, we
will have eight people, including me, who vote on policy for the remainder of this year. We are
hopeful that the full Senate will confirm the two governors who have now come out of the
Senate Banking Committee, but we don’t know when that will occur. That will bring the total
number of voters to 10. But the composition of those 10 voters will change each year going
forward.
Here, for example, is how the voters have changed just since last year and how the voting group
will morph on into 2016, with those names in red indicating new positions or votes.
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Changing Policy Leadership Landscape
December FOMC
Governors: Bernanke (Chairman), Yellen, Raskin, Tarullo, Powell, Stein, Vacant
Presidents: Dudley (New York), Bullard (St. Louis), Evans (Chicago),
George (Kansas City), Rosengren (Boston)
March FOMC
Governors: Bernanke, Yellen (Chair), Raskin, Tarullo, Powell, Stein, Vacantx3
Presidents: Dudley (New York), Plosser(Philadelphia),Pianalto(Cleveland),
Fisher (Dallas),Kocherlakota (Minneapolis)
June FOMC
Governors: Yellen (Chair), Tarullo, Powell, Stein, Fischer?*, Brainard?*,Vacantx2
Presidents: Dudley (New York), Plosser(Philadelphia), PianaltoMester(Cleveland),
Fisher (Dallas), Kocherlakota (Minneapolis)
* Ms. LaelBrainardand Dr. Stanley Fischer have been nominated, but not yet confirmed, to be Fed governors.
Changing Policy Leadership Landscape
2015 FOMC
Governors: Yellen (Chair), Tarullo, Powell, Fischer?*, Brainard?*,Vacantx2
Presidents: Dudley (New York), Evans (Chicago), Lacker (Richmond),
Lockhart (Atlanta), Williams (San Francisco)
2016 FOMC
Governors: Yellen (Chair), Tarullo, Powell, Fischer?*, Brainard?*,Vacantx2
Presidents: Dudley (New York), Bullard (St. Louis), George (Kansas City),
Mester(Cleveland), Rosengren (Boston)
* Ms. LaelBrainardand Dr. Stanley Fischer have been nominated, but not yet confirmed, to be Fed governors.
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Dot-ology or Doxology?
Even though the Fed has a remarkable assembly of the best economic thinkers on the planet
(present company excluded), no one on the FOMC is a seer and none possess Nostradamus-like
insight, even when looking out just a couple of quarters; and, given that the roster of those who
actually vote on policy is constantly changing, it is a wonder that the analytical community and
market economists have become so fixated on “the dots.”
Some analysts practically worship the dots. They have become analytical idols around which a
doxology of sorts has developed (“Praise dots from whom all insights flow”). Others consider
their fallibility but still spill plenty of ink slicing and dicing them.
For example, here is a foray into dot-ology sent out on April 23 by the highly regarded chief
international economist of Deutsche Bank, Torsten Slok: “One important question is how
confident FOMC members are in their forecasts. One way to measure this is to look at the
standard deviation around FOMC members’ forecasts of where they think the fed funds rate will
be in two years’ time, i.e. look at the standard deviation of the dots in the Fed’s dot chart. … At
their latest meeting the FOMC members felt more certain about the coming hike in the fed funds
rate than they did a year ago.”3
I cite Mr. Slok’s analysis only as an example of an entire field of study—a veritable industry—
that has evolved around “the dots.” So extensive is the preoccupation with this that it would not
surprise me if Harrah’s Casino here on Canal Street eventually starts taking bets on how the dots
will shift from quarter to quarter.
Surely, economists of high repute are aware of the imperfections of this exercise and the
fundamental problem with date-based forward guidance (projecting a schedule for future policy
changes). We, on the FOMC, certainly are.
Dr. Seuss or Strother Martin?
There have been suggestions from outside and within the Fed on how to better present our “best
guesses” as to when we will move the base rate for anchoring the yield curve. For example, some
have suggested identifying which dots belong to current voting members of the FOMC. Others
have suggested that we report only the median of responses or the median of voter responses,
rather than the entire array of dots. But neither of these approaches would do anything to
enlighten the markets as to the views of future voters, nor would they overcome the underlying
problem with date-based forward guidance.
What to do? If the dot chart creates confusion, one option would be to dispense with the exercise
altogether. Having evoked Dr. Seuss earlier, I can imagine his bidding the dots farewell with
some ditty like this:
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We gave you form
So you’d inform
About the price of dough.
But all you’ve done
Is make for fun,
And this we didn’t know.
So, out, damned dot!
Out with the lot!
It’s clearly time to go.
Yet expressing the FOMC participants’ perceptions of, and possible reactions to, an assortment
of future scenarios—however often the committee’s composition may change—does strike me as
having some merit, if only to give markets insight into how the central bank might react under
different circumstances.
In the parlance of the trade, this is called “state-based” guidance. Yet here, too, we have
struggled. For example, until two meetings ago, we used an unemployment figure of 6½ percent
as a point sometime after which we would begin to consider pulling back on monetary
accommodation, then decided this wasn’t quite the ticket.
This may be a little more inside baseball than you expected to hear today, but here’s the point:
Expect the Fed to continue refining its communications. We are getting better at it. But to invoke
the immortal words from the chain gang captain portrayed by Strother Martin in the 1967 movie
Cool Hand Luke: “What we’ve got here is failure to communicate.” We are working on it so that
you and other bankers, market operators, businesses and consumers will develop the best
possible insight into how your monetary authority will behave. I expect that our new Chair, Janet
Yellen, will play a significant role here as she uses her press conferences to explain what simply
cannot be communicated with a series of dots or within the statement we release after each
meeting.
Alas, There Is Congress
Now mind you, your monetary authority—your Federal Reserve—does not hold every card to
your future in its hand. No matter how clearly we communicate, no matter how expertly we tailor
our supervision of your banks, no matter how we conduct monetary policy, our work is
necessary but not sufficient to the success of the Louisiana, Texas and U.S. economies. The
fiscal authorities—Congress and the executive branch—must do their job to provide the proper
tax, spending and regulatory incentives for businesses to take advantage of the cheap and
abundant money the Fed has made possible and put it to work to grow, expand their payrolls and
let America truly prosper.
I will spare you my thoughts on Congress (it is not very central banker-like to resort to
profanity). All I will say is that you and your neighbors and friends and customers are the ones
who elect people to office and whether you are a ‘D’ or an ‘R,’ you need only look at yourself in
the mirror to see who is in charge of placing the right people in office to get the job done of
putting the American economy back on track. I’d say you have some serious work to do here.
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Conclusion
For today, just bear in mind that the Fed is doing its utmost to be an enlightened regulator of
your banks. For the economy as a whole, there is abundant liquidity to finance economic
expansion, and the FOMC will assure that it remains affordable as long as the prospect of
inflation rising above its 2 percent target remains in abeyance. It is too early to say that the
economy can declare laissez les bon temps rouler. But for you bankers in this audience today,
you might be forgiven if you kick up your heels a little bit while you are in New Orleans …
though the curmudgeonly old Fed will be watching to make sure that for its part, you don’t let
things get out of hand.
Thank you, Drake. Thank you all.
Now, in the best tradition of central banking, I would be happy to avoid answering any questions
you have.
Notes
1 You’re Only Old Once!: A Book for Obsolete Children, by Theodor Seuss Geisel, New York: Random
House, 1986.
2 See “Forward Guidance,” by Richard W. Fisher, remarks before the Asia Society Hong Kong Center,
Hong Kong, April 4, 2014, www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2014/fs140404.cfm.
3 “Standard Deviation of the Dots in the Dot Chart,” by Torsten Slok, Deutsche Bank Research, April 23,
2014.
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