speeches · February 23, 2012
Regional President Speech
James Bullard · President
Comments on “Housing, Monetary Policy, and
the Recovery” by Michael Feroli, Ethan Harris,
Amir Sufi, and Kenneth West
*
James Bullard
President and CEO
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
2012 U.S. Monetary Policy Forum
Initiative on Global Markets
University of Chicago Booth School of Business
New York, N.Y.
24 February 2012
Abstract
This is a discussion of the paper “Housing, Monetary Policy, and the Recovery,”
by Michael Feroli, Ethan Harris, Amir Sufi, and Kenneth West. The paper is part of
the 2012 U.S. Monetary Policy Forum.
* This version: 23 February 2012. I appreciate helpful comments from the St. Louis Fed research
staff, especially Bill Emmons, Carlos Garriga, and Rajdeep Sengupta. Any views expressed are
my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Federal Open Market Committee.
1 Two trend lines
I am pleased to be here at the U.S. Monetary Policy Forum to comment on
this very nice paper by Michael Feroli, Ethan Harris, Amir Su…, and Ken
West. It represents the best of what this Forum is about. In particular, it
brings together judgments from academia, the private sector, and the policy
world to better inform all of us on a key issue. I certainly learned a lot from
this paper and I recommend it to all of you if you have not already read it.
Let me …rst lay out a big picture issue as I see it and then turn to a few
more speci…c comments on the paper.
It has become commonplace in the past several years to refer to the mid-
2000s as a real estate price “bubble”that has burst.1 This metaphor is, in
fact, so commonplace that it has ceased to be controversial. In this paper,
for instance, the authors lament (p. 14), “What started as a localized bubble
and bust has been transformed into a national problem.”Housing prices now
seem to have been far too high in the middle part of the past decade, driven
in large part by the widespread belief that “house prices never fall.”
If households and businesses had viewed the high prices as mere noise,
and therefore not changed their economic decision making very much, the
fall in housing prices would not have been such a critical event. But that is
not what happened.
Instead, the high real estate prices were taken very seriously. House-
holds consumed more and borrowed more than they otherwise would have;
developers built homes at an aggressive pace; Wall Street developed new
…nancially engineered products to feed the boom; and ancillary industries
thrived. When house prices fell by 30 percent and remained low, the wide-
spread belief that “house prices never fall”was shattered. Households were
left with debt levels much higher than they intended to take on, housing con-
1For economists, I prefer the language “sunspot”equilibrium to refer to a sustainable,
market-clearing situation in which the real allocation of resources is driven by beliefs
alone. In the macroeconomics literature, “bubble”equilibria are often socially desirable,
as for instance in much of monetary theory, while “sunspot”equilibria are often socially
undesirable, as they involve excess volatility. However, in common parlance the bubble
language overwhelms all attempts at distinctions.
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Figure 1: Decomposing Real GDP.
struction fell dramatically, Wall Street was nearly destroyed, and abetting
industries had to scale back aggressively. The size of the shock severely dis-
rupted labor market relationships, pushing unemployment to exceptionally
high levels. It takes a long time for those displaced by the shock to …nd new
working relationships.
The belief that drove the bubble cannot be reconstituted, and therefore
we say that the bubble has collapsed.2 It is neither feasible nor desirable to
rein‡ate such a damaging bubble. The authors explicitly (p. 13) “... make
no presumption that it would be socially optimal to have a booming housing
market”and state that “... we expect ... and probably want ... relatively
low investment post-boom.”
AsimplewaytoviewwhatisatstakeistoconsiderFigure1,whichsimply
plots twodecompositions of real GDP.3 Ontheleft handsideis alineartrend
2See also Bullard (2012a, 2012b).
3For additional discussion, see Thoma (2012).
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computed from 1947 to the present, and on the right hand side is a Hodrick-
Prescott (HP) …lter computed over the same time period.4 In order to see
the implications for recent GDP movements, only the past ten years are
plotted here. On the left, the current level of GDP is far below trend. On
the right, the current level of GDP is at or even above the trend line. Both
trend lines are atheoretical, statistical constructs: At best, they can give us
only a rough notion of where we think the macroeconomy should be if it
was behaving normally. Still, the policy messages are very di¤erent from the
two graphs. Pictures like the one on the left suggest that, three-and-a-half
years after Lehman-AIG, we remain in crisis mode. Actual output is far from
normal, and we must maintain emergency measures into the distant future.
Pictures like the one on the right give a di¤erent message. They suggest
that the business cycle adjustment dynamics are already complete. While
the current level of output is unsatisfactory, it is because of the trend, not
because of inadequate business cycle adjustment. Policy should be focused
on improving the trend line, because attempts to push the economy “back
to trend”through conventional business cycle stabilization policies will not
be very e¤ective.
Because the HP …lter is atheoretical, it cannot really substitute for a
careful theory that can tell us how to decompose trend from cycle.5 But
the …lter does attempt to isolate business cycle frequency movements in key
macroeconomic variables. If the adjustment is taking a long time, the …lter
ascribes more and more of the data movement to the trend component.
I interpret much of the analysis in the current paper as consistent with
the second view. The authors describe a variety of evidence consistent with
a collapsed real estate bubble. They provide estimates that suggest that the
actual stock of housing may be much larger than the desired stock. They
4The smoothing parameter for the HP …lter was set to 1;600.
5New Keynesian theory as described by Woodford (2003) is an example of a theory
that provides such a decomposition. In that theory, the gap that matters for monetary
policyisthedistancebetweenactualoutputunderstickypricesandthe‡exiblepricelevel
of output. The ‡exible price level of output would ‡uctuate continuously in response to
shocks hitting the economy.
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describe an economy that is not returning to a simple trend line with the
vigor that might have been expected given past experience. They give good
explanations as to why this has happened. And they describe additional
adjustment processes that are likely to take years to unfold. All of this
sounds like medium- and long-termadjustment as described by the HP trend
in Figure 1.
2 The state of the economy and the housing
market
One of the more striking …gures presented in the paper is Chart 6, which
describes real household debt. The chart (see Figure 2) shows that, unlike
all other recovery periods, this one has been marked by a reduction in real
household levels of indebtedness. This is commonly called deleveraging, and
it makes sense since the bubble story describes a household sector that bor-
rowed too much based on an optimistic assessment of future house prices.
One of the fundamental tensions in current U.S. macroeconomic policy is the
tendency to push against the need to reduce household debt levels. I believe
thatthisisbecausewe—collectivelyaseconomistsandpolicymakers—arenot
used to recessions in which debt levels were too high. It has never happened
before according to the chart. Consequently, we get seemingly paradoxical
policy. Monetarypolicyhaskeptinterestrateslowtoencourageborrowing—
in the context of an economy with too much borrowing. Fiscal policy has
loaded on debt—in e¤ect borrowing on behalf of households who are already
overindebted.
Chart 9 in the paper (Figure 3 here) shows the developments in multi-
family versus single family housing starts. This will surely continue to be
one of the key stories in housing during the coming years. My sense is that
the housing debacle of the past …ve years may have scared o¤ a generation
of potential homeowners. The current cohorts of new home buyers likely
see homeownership as a fundamentally riskier proposition than earlier co-
horts and therefore may be far more likely to rent rather than own. It seems
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Figure 2: Real Household Debt.
Chart 6 in Feroli et al. (2012).
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Figure 3: Housing starts, single-family and multifamily.
Chart 9 in Feroli et al. (2012).
possible to write down models that would predict such a shift in the wake
of a crisis that revealed a far riskier price landscape than previously under-
stood. Such a theory might suggest a more permanent shift to renting than
described in this paper.
As for the ugly part of the housing situation, Figure 4 provides an ad-
ditional perspective.6 According to estimates by my sta¤, there are about
75.3 million homeowners in the U.S. as of the third quarter of 2011. About
two-thirds of these, 49.4 million, had some mortgage debt outstanding on the
house. These households collectively had $712 billion of equity to support
$9,882 billion of mortgage debt as of the third quarter of 2011. Figure 4
shows the average loan-to-value (LTV) ratio from 1970 to the present. The
LTVaveraged58.4percentbetween1970and2005, butshotupto90percent
during the crisis and has remained there. This picture makes it particularly
clear that homeowners were borrowing during the bubble phase not expect-
ing house prices to fall appreciably. If we think of the 58.4 percent LTV as
being the desired steady state, homeowners would have to pay down mort-
6These estimates are due to Bill Emmons at the St. Louis Fed.
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Figure 4: Estimated average loan-to-value ratio of mortgaged homeowners.
Latest data point: Q3.2011.
gagedebtcollectivelyby$3,695billion, aboutone-quarterofoneyear’sGDP.
As the authors suggest via other means, it will take a long time to get back
to that type of steady-state situation. Figure 4 shows just how badly house-
holds have been knocked o¤of their historical norms. This picture suggests
a persistent shift, not simply an ordinary business cycle dynamic around an
unchanged trend line.
3 Housing and monetary transmission
The authors argue that monetary policy is less e¤ective in the current sit-
uation than it might otherwise be. Their argument is based on the idea
that borrowing constraints play an important role in the economy and that
‡uctuating housing valuations alter collateral constraints. Monetary policy
can have e¤ects on agents in the economy that are not constrained, but it
will have more di¢ culty reaching—or may not be able to reach at all—those
households that are sharply constrained. This is an interesting hypothesis
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because of a subtle di¤erence from earlier arguments concerning monetary
policy impotence. Earlier arguments sometimes emphasized the idea that
once the central bank encounters the zero lower bound, its ability to a¤ect
interest rates is lost. However, QE has generally been viewed as e¤ective
both in the U.S. and abroad during the past several years, and the authors
post no quibble with the ability of the central bank to continue to drive real
interestrateslowerthroughunconventionalpolicyactions. Indeed, according
to the TIPS market, the real yield on 5-year securities is about minus 110
basis points, and the real yield on 10-year securities is about minus 25 basis
points. These are exceptionally low yields over very long time horizons.7
The authors instead argue that, while the central bank can in‡uence
yields, those that can respond to the lower yields have done so already and
those that cannot will not be in‡uenced by further policy actions because
they are backed up against sharply binding collateral constraints. I think
this is an interesting and plausible hypothesis.
Wealth e¤ects could in‡uence the economy not only through collateral
constraints but also through distributional e¤ects. I want to mention one pa-
per that has tried to quantify the consequences of severe declines in housing
and other asset values of the magnitude observed during 2008-2009 across
age cohorts in the economy.8 The paper is by Andrew Glover, Jonathan
Heathcote, Dirk Krueger, and Víctor Ríos-Rull, and is entitled “Intergener-
ational Redistribution and the Great Recession.”The basic idea is to use a
calibrated stochastic general equilibrium overlapping generations model to
quantify the e¤ects. In the model, as in the data, asset-holders tend to
be older and su¤er greatly when the shock disrupts the economy. Younger
households bene…t from the lower prices of assets, including housing assets,
but this e¤ect is largely swamped by the e¤ects on the older households.
According to the paper, a recession of the magnitude observed during 2008-
2009 is nearly welfare-neutral for the younger generations, but causes a large
7Formoreonthee¤ectivenessofquantitativeeasing,seethepapersfromtheSt. Louis
Fed conference, “Quantitative Easing,”June 30, 2011, available at the St. Louis Fed web
site: http://research.stlouisfed.org/conferences/qe/.
8See Glover et al. (2011).
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welfare loss for older generations, equivalent to about 10% of consumption
for households over 70. This paper suggests that distributional consequences
are probably more important than commonly appreciated.
Feroli et al. (2012) present fascinating evidence from U.S. states to get
at the idea that areas with more intense housing busts also face problems
that inhibit a rebound in economic activity (e.g., see Figure 5). I found this
evidence very interesting and informative. It seems clear that the states with
thelargest housepricedeclines arealsothestates withtheslowest recoveries.
In the earlier stages of the housing debacle, regionalism in house prices was
widely cited in a sort of virtuous way. Former Chairman Greenspan, for in-
stance, at one point described certain housing markets as “frothy.”But now,
with the data in hand, the authors are able to demonstrate with much more
clarity the di¤ering impact of the housing bubble collapse across locations.
4 Summary
The bottom line of the paper is in some ways unsurprising: The situation in
U.S. housing markets represents a quantitatively signi…cant headwind. Still,
I think the paper provides one of the better statements that I have seen
describing the nature of the likely problems and the magnitudes involved.
The authors counsel that improvement is likely to be very slow and that, in
any case, there is no presumption that a booming housing market would be
desirable in the aftermath of the collapse of the bubble. The desired physical
housing stock is lower than the actual stock, according to the estimates in
the paper, and likely by a substantial margin. Taken literally, this means
that households would like to reduce square footage and remove amenities in
exchange for lower levels of debt. The only realistic way for that to happen
is to allow the natural depreciation in the housing capital stock to catch up
with household desires. Unfortunately, that is a long process.
Thank-you for listening and thanks for the opportunity to comment on
this interesting paper.
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Figure 5: Auto sales for high and low credit quality within large and small
house price decline states.
Chart 22 in Feroli et al. (2012).
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References
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[3] Feroli, Michael E., Ethan S. Harris, Amir Su…, and Kenneth D. West,
2012. “Housing, Monetary Policy, and the Recovery.”Unpublished man-
uscript.
[4] Glover, Andrew, Jonathan Heathcote, Dirk Krueger, and José-Víctor
Ríos-Rull, 2011. “Intergenerational Redistribution in the Great Reces-
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title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {2012},
month = {Feb},
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