speeches · October 19, 1986
Regional President Speech
Silas Keehn · President
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I I. BEST OF TIMES/WORST OF TIMES - LET ME EXPLAIN THE
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A. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY POSITIVE, REWARDING ECONOMIC
CYCLE - BETTER THAN WE FREQUENTLY GIVE IT CREDIT FOR
1. LENGTH - 4 YEARS - SHORTLY GO INTO 5TH YEAR - THE
SECOND LONGEST SINCE WWII
B. AND IN ITS MAJOR CHARACTERISTICS COMPARATIVELY VERY
STRONG
1. TOTAL EMPLOYMENT UP 9 MILLION OR 10% SINCE
PREVIOUS PEAK
A. UP 12 MILLION OR 13% SINCE 4TH QUARTER 1982
(1) TOTAL EMPLOYMENT NOW _f_/_3_~_,_i'tr,,../
(2) PRETTY IMPRESSIVE
B. UNEMPLOYMENT - EDGED UP IN SEPTEMBER BUT THIS
YEAR HAS SEEN THE LOWEST RATES SINCE 1980
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2. GNP
A. AT RECORD LEVELS; IN REAL TERMS 12% HIGHER
THAN THE PREVIOUS PEAK, ALMOST $400 BI LL I ON
HIGHER - SIGNIFICANT INCREASE
3. INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT ALSO AT RECORD LEVELS 1~R
A. 11% HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS PEAK
B. WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE SHIFT TO THE
SERVI CE ECONOMY - EMPLOYMENT SENSE - YET
PHYSICAL OUTPUT BY OUR MANUFACTURING PLANTS
AT RECORD LEVELS
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4. INFLATION - CPI --
A. ABOUT 2% OVER LAST YEAR
B. COMPARED TO PRIOR ECONOMIC CYCLES VERY
POSITIVE RESULT AT THIS PHASE - IN PRIOR
CYCLES INFLATION HAS TENDED TO INCREASE BY
SAY 7%-9% BY THE 3RD OR 4TH YEAR
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C. FOOD/ENERGY
D. HAS GIVEN THE FED MORE MANEUVERING ROOM IN
THE DEVELOPMENT OF MONETARY POLICY
5. AUTO SALES THIS YEAR - OVER 11 MILLION UNITS
A. TH I RD CONSECUTIVE YEAR IN WHICH AUTO SALES
HAVE EXCEEDED 10 MILLION
6. HOUSING STARTS - OVER 1.8 MILLION THIS YEAR
A~ ___ }iULTI FAMTI Y IINITS WILL BE N-g,ATIVELY
IMPACTED BY THE TAX BILL - HOUSING ~TARTS,
B. THIS YEAR THE 4TH CONSECUTIVE YEAR OF HOUSING
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C. NEXT YEAR - CAR SALES LOWER 10.3/10.4 -
HO US I NG ST A R TS ·- MU LT I -FA M I LY UN I TS
NEGATIVELY EFFECTED BY THE TAX BILL - SAY,
1.6 MILLION
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D. SEEMS TO ME THAT ANY YEAR CAR SALES EXCEED 10
MILLION AND HOUSING STARTS EXCEED 1.5 MILLION
THE FUNDAMENTAL ECONOMY HAS TO BE CATEGORIZED
AS VERY GOOD - PR~TTY GOOB PERFORMANEE WITH -
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THIS LE\J~L OF ACTIVI IV IN IAESE Z CRITICAL
A-Rf-AS
C. LOOKING AHEAD A BIT - THROUGH NEXT YEAR
1. OUR ANTICIPATION THAT THE EXPANSION WILL CONTINUE
2. REAL GROWTH ±3% SEEMS REALISTIC AND ACHIEVABLE
A. THE EXACT NUMBER NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE
THOUGHT
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8. THE EXPANSION WILL CONTINUE, A RECESSION
LIKELY, NOR DOES THERE SEEM TO BE THE RISK OF
A BLOW-OUT ON THE. UPPER SIDE CAUSING RENEWED
INFLATION
~ 3. PERHAPS SOME UPWARD BIAS IN THE RATE OF INFLATION
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A. FOOD AND ENERGY WILL HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE
SYSTEM
8. NOTHING EXPLOSIVE, SAY, 3%-4%
C. CERTAINLY NOT PRICE STABILITY - WE HAVE MORE
WORK TO DO
D. BUT STILL A FAVORABLE RESULT GIVEN THE
CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES
4. UNEMPLOYMENT MAY MOVE DOWN SOMEWHAT
A. STILL HIGHER THAN WE LIKE
8. BUT TO EMPHASIZE THE POSITIVE, THE INCREASE
IN EMPLOYMENT SHOULD CONTINUE
D. THESE POSITIVE BROAD NATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS MASK A
CONTINUING UNEVENNESS - PARTICULARLY TRUE IN THE
MIDWEST
1. AGRICULTURE - GOING THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT
ADJUSTMENT PHASE
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A. THOUGH WE MAY BE APPROACHING THE BOTTOM (THE
ZONE OF STABILITY)
B. WE COULD CONTINUE AT THESE LOWER LEVELS FOR
QUITE SOME WHILE
C. THE BY-PRODUCT EFFECTS ON ALL THOSE
INTERRELATED WITH AGRICULTURE WILL CONTINUE
TO BE VERY NEGATIVE
2. HEAVY INDUSTRY ~ ~en_
A. MANY MANUFACTURERS OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
PRODUCTS BY NO MEANS BACK TO FORMER LEVELS
B. A SECTOR THAT HAS BEEN VERY HARD HIT BY THE
ENORMOUS CHANGES IN THE INTERNATIONAL MARKETS
EXPORTS, FRUSTRATING, IMPORTS HAVE
ESTABLISHED MAJOR INROADS IN DOMESTIC MARKETS
C. BUT THE LONGER RUN OUTLOOK, EVEN FOR THE
HEAVY MANUFACTURING SECTOR, CAN BE QUITE
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PROMISING - VERY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL
EXPENDITURE PROGRAMS - THOUGH NOT EXPANSION,
IMPORTANT PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS
(HIGHLIGHT DEERE EXAMPLE)
D. WHEN DEMAND PICKS UP, THE LEVERAGE WILL BE
PRETTY PHENOMENAL
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III. BUT LET ME TURN TO THE OTHER HALF OF THE QUOTE "THE WORST
OF TIMES" - THE BUILDUP OF RISKS AND IMBALANCES
A. THESE ISSUES CERTAINLY AREN'T NEW
1. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE
2. BUT HAVE ONLY GOT TEN WORSE WI TH THE PASSAGE OF
TIME
3. IN SOME SENSE, HANG ABOVE US LI KE THE SWORD OF
DAMOCLESE
B. THE FISCAL DEFICIT - WHAT COULD I POSSIBLY ADD TO
THIS ISSUE THAT YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW - MORE THAN
YOU CARE TO HEAR - BORING AND TIRESOME
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1. WE ARE CONTINUING TO RUN VERY LARGE DEFICITS IN
ABSOLUTE AND RELATIVE TERMS
2. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JUST ENDED, THE DEFICIT
ESTIMATED AT $230 BILLION OR ABOUT 5.5% OF THE
NOMINAL GNP
3. NOT AT ALL UNUSUAL TO RUN DEFICITS DUR I NG
RECESSIONS - THAT'S THE WAY YOU DEAL WITH THAT
KIND OF ADVERSE CIRCUMSTANCE
4. IN FISCAL 1982, JUST BEFORE THE BOTTOM OF THE
RECESSION, THE DEFICIT WAS ABOUT 4.0% OF GNP
5. IN FISCAL 1983 AS WE REACHED THE BOTTOM AND
STARTED TO RECOVER, THE DEFICIT WAS OVER 6% OF GNP
6. WE HAVEN'T MADE MUCH PROGRESS
7. TH IS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED EXPERIENCE AND IS VERY
THREATENING TO OUR ECONOMIC WELLBEING
8. DEFICITS RESULT IN TREASURY DEBT
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A. WE'VE GONE FROM $500 BILLION IN 1975, SAILED
THROUGH $2 TRILLION EARLIER THIS YEAR - NOW
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HAVE~ $2,074.5 BILLION
8. THE INCREASE SEEMS INEXORABLE - DAILY - WEEKLY
C. INTEREST ON THE DEBT IS CONSUMING A LARGER
AND LARGER AMOUNT OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET
D. THE COMPOUND INTEREST SYNDROME
C. CONSUMER DEBT - AT RECORD LEVELS
1. THE MONTHLY INCREASES HAVE GOTTEN SMALLER
2. CONSUMER INSTALMENT DEBT RELATED TO DISPOSABLE
INCOME AT ABSOLUTELY RECORD LEVELS
3. MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES - STILL HIGH
4. IF THE CONSUMERS RESTRAIN THEIR APPETITE,
RESTRAINED BY THE HIGH DEBT LOADS THEY ARE
ALREADY CARRYING, CONSUMPTION GROWTH WILL SLOW
MODERATING THE ECONOMIC EXPANSION
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5. IF WE GET BACK INTO A RECESSION, SERVICING THE
DEBT WILL BECOME DIFFICULT
D. THE CORPORATE DEBT LOAD, HEAVY AND GROWING - MERGERS
AND TAKEOVERS
1. CORPORATE AMERICA DECAPITALIZING ITSELF
2. DEBT TO WORTH LEVELS AT AN EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH
POINT
3. THE ABILITY TO SERVICE IN AN ECONOMIC RECESSION
E. THE EXTERNAL DEBTS OF LESSER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES -
JUST ANOTHER ELEMENT IN THIS DEBT PICTURE
1. WE HAVE MANAGED THROUGH THE EXTERNAL DEBT
PROBLEMS ON A ONE-BY-ONE BASIS - THE REFINANCINGS
HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATED
2. BUT ALL OF THE PARTIES SEEM TO BE SHOWING SIGNS
OF EXHAUSTION-~~~
3. VERflY IMPORTANTLY, THESE COUNTRIES NEED TO
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CONTINUE TO EXPORT PRODUCTS INTO THE WORLD
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MARKETS TO GENERATE FOREIGN CURRENCY - A MOVE
TOWARD PROTECTIONISM WOULD BE DISASTROUS
F. THE COMMON DENOMINATOR FOR ALL OF THESE ISSUES - THE
BUILDUP OF DEBT ACROSS ALL SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY,
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
1. WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE GREATEST INCREASE IN
NONF INANCIAL DEBT IN THE 30 YEARS IN WHICH THE
SERIES HAS BEEN RECORDED
2. THE MESSAGE IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR - GIVEN THESE
DEBT LOADS AND THE VULNERABILITY OF THESE SECTORS
TO A DOWNTURN, THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXPANSION
IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL
3. A RECESSION WOULD BE EXTREMELY AWKWARD
4. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, THE OVERRIDING
RESPONSIBILITY - CONTINUE THE EXPANSION
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IV. SHIFTING AREAS A BIT - THE INTERNATIONAL AREA HAS PERHAPS
EXPERIENCED THE GREATEST CHANGE OF ANY OVER THE PAST
DECADE
A. OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE BUT PERHAPS ALSO OUR GREATEST
OPPORTUNITY
1. QUITE CLEARLY THE WORLDWIDE ECONOMIC SYSTEM HAS
BEEN GLOBALIZED
A. THE MARKETS AND ECONOMIES OF THE LARGER
INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES HAVE BECOME
INEXTRICABLY INTERCONNECTED
B. WE ARE NO LONGER SEPARATE ECONOMIES OPERATING
REASONABLY AUTONOMOUSLY
C. THE BARRIERS HAVE COME DOWN - WE ARE
OPERATING IN A WORLD ECONOMY THAT PROVIDES
FOR A PRETTY FREE I NTERFLOW OF GOODS AND
CAPITAL
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2. SO FAR THE FOCUS OF PUBLIC CONCERN HAS BEEN ON
THE TRADE DEFICIT
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A. BUT THE INCREASED IM-P0Ellifl@E OF CAPITAL FLOWS
HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR EVEN GREATER DANGER
8. IT USED TO BE THAT FINANCIAL FLOWS WERE
LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE FLOW OF PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES
C. BUT CAPITAL FLOWS HAVE BECOME I NC REAS I NGL Y
DISCONNECTED FROM THE MOVEMENTS OF GOODS AND
SERVICES
(1) LARGELY AS ·A- i<ESOL I OF OUR -N.E.ED TO
FINANCE TIIE FISCAL DEFICI(
(2) THE WORLD MARKETS PROVIDED THE CAPITAL
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OUR NEEDS INCREASED
(3) HAVE BAILED OUT OUR DEFICIT PROBLEM
D. THE INFLOW OF FUNDS WAS ACCOMPANIED BY THE
RISE IN THE DOLLAR
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{ 1) WHICH, IN TURN, REST RA I NED EXPORTS,
ENCOURAGED IMPORTS AND RE SUL TED IN OUR
TRADE DEFICIT
E. THE FUNDS FLOWS - THE VELOCITY OF THE
TURNOVER - ARE ENORMOUS; FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS
ESTIMATED THAT
( 1) FOREIGN EXCHANGE TRANSACTIONS IN THE
U.S. ALONE HAVE EXCEEDED $63 BILLION A
DAY AND CLOSE TO $200 BILLION WORLDWIDE
{2) AND SINCE 1983 HAVE ALMOST DOUBLED (92%
INCREASE)
F. THIS IS A PHENOMENAL CHANGE - EXCITING - YET
THE VELOCITY AND MAGNITUDE OF THESE MOVEMENTS
IS MORE THAN A LITTLE UNNERVING
(1) THE PAYMENTS MECHANISM - THE PIPELINE -
DESIGNED MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE VOLUMES
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WERE SMALLER. THERE IS A POTENTIAL
VULNERABILITY HERE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
G. ANY KIND OF A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM WOULD HAVE
A MASSIVE EFFECT ON THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN
THE COUNTRIES INVOLVED
3. BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE TRADE SITUATION HAS
BECOME VERY DISCOURAGING
A. WE ARE CONTINUING TO RUN HUGE TRADE DEFICITS
B. THE DECLINE IN THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR HAS
NOT YET PRODUCED THE EXPECTED RESULTS IN
TERMS OF HIGHER LEVELS OF EXPORTS, REDUCED
IMPORTS
C. THE DOLLAR DOWN AGAINST THE YEN AND DEUTSCHE
MARK BY SOME 40%, BUT NOT SO AGAINST THE
CANADIAN DOLLAR AND FAR EASTERN CURRENCIES
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D. THE "J" CURVE
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4. THOUGH THE AUGUST NUMBER AN IMPROVEMENT OVER
JULY, FAR TOO EARLY TO FORECAST A FUNDAMENTAL
CHANGE IN THIS PICTURE
5. AS A RESULT OF CAPITAL FLOWS AND TRADE DEFICIT,
WE HAVE BECOME A NET EXTERNAL DEBTOR
A. NOT UNLIKE MEXICO/BRAZIL/ARGENTINA - JUST A
LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE
8. AT THIS RATE, U.S. FOREIGN DEBT WILL BE $1
TRILLION BY 1990
C. NOTHING INHERENTLY WRONG IF THE FUNDS HAD
BEEN USED FOR PRODUCTIVE INVESTMENTS -
GENERATE EARNINGS
D. BUT THE OPPOSITE - WE HAVE USED THE FUNDS FOR
CONSUMPTION - THE .INTERNATIONAL MARKETS HAVE
BEEN SUPPORTING OUR HIGH STANDARD OF LIVING
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E. THE VERY HIGH GROWTH IN CONSUMPTION VERSUS
THE MODEST GROWTH IN TERMS OF GNP HAS BEEN
MADE UP FROM IMPORTS - THE TRADE DEFICIT
6. BUT THE INTERNATIONAL MARKETS MAY NOT BE WILLING
TO SUFFER THIS EXCESS AD INFINITUM
A. IF THESE MARKETS CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE ON THE
ACQUISITION OF ADDITIONAL DOLLAR ASSETS, AND
PERHAPS EVEN ON HOLDING DOLLAR ASSETS TO THE
EXTENT THAT THEY NOW DO
8. INCREASINGLY OUR DOMESTIC DEFICIT WOULD HAVE
TO BE FINANCED OFF THE DOMESTIC MARKET - THE
EFFECT ON INTEREST RATES ECONOMIC EXPERIENCE
FAR DIFFERENT
7. THE NEED FOR THE COO RD I NAT I ON OF FISCAL AND
MONETARY POLICIES AMONG THE MAJOR INDUSTRIALIZED
COUNTRIES BECOMES CLEARER WITH THE PASSAGE OF TIME
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A. WHILE THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT CAN BE EASILY
AGREED TO BY ALL CONCERNED, AT LEAST AS A
CONCEPT, MOVING TO THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION
IS THE DIFFICULT STEP
B. THOUGH DIFFICULT TO DEFINITIVELY INTERPRET
THE RESULTS OF THE RECENT IMF AND WORLD BANK
MEETINGS IN WASHINGTON, THE EARLY REPORTS
SEEM TO BE DISCOURAGING
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V. TO~HE--OUTLOOK CAN BE JUST AS POSITIVE AS THE
RESULTS WE HAVE RECENTLY EXPERIENCED
A. THE IMBALANCES CAN BE BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL AND
REVERSED - THEY ARE WITHIN OUR ABILITY SHOULD WE
REALLY WANT TO TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS
B. IF WE ACHIEVE THE FISCAL DEFICIT
C. IF THE LONG AWA I TED UPWARDS SLOPE ON THE "J" CURVE
FINALLY ARRIVES
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1. T+tt'S"--WILL HAVE A POSIT IVE EFFECT ON OUR EXPORTS
AND OUR GNP RESULTS - ( AND OUR FORECAS TED
CONTINUATION OF THE EXPANSION IS PREDICATED ON
HIGHER EXPORTS)
D. IF AS A RESULT WE REDUCE OUR TRADE DEFICIT - OUR
DEPENDENCE ON THE FOREIGN MARKETS
E. IF THE FINANCE MINISTERS AND CENTRAL BANKERS OF THE
MAJOR INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES CAN COORDINATE THEIR
PLANNING AND THINKING TO A HIGHER DEGREE
F. AND ALL OF THESE "IFS" ARE NOT ONLY DESIRABLE BUT
CERTAINLY ACHIEVABLE
1. WITH A BETTER BALANCE WE COULD VERY WELL
EXPERIENCE A HIGHLY REWARDING ENVIRONMENT FOR A
PROLONGED PERIOD
2. INDEED THIS PERIOD COULD EQUAL OR SURPASS ANY
THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SINCE WORLD WAR II
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3. IF ALL OF THESE ISSUES FALL INTO PLACE, WE COULD
LOOK BACK ON TH IS PER I OD AS R(ALLV TIIE BE& T &r
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Silas Keehn (1986, October 19). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19861020_silas_keehn
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_regional_speeche_19861020_silas_keehn,
author = {Silas Keehn},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {1986},
month = {Oct},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19861020_silas_keehn},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}