speeches · June 12, 1985
Regional President Speech
Robert P. Forrestal · President
BANKING OPPORTUNITIES FROM NOW TO THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY
Remarks of
Mr. Robert P. Forrestal
President
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
to the Annual Convention of the
National Association of Urban Bankers
Miami, Florida
June 13, 1985
It’s a real pleasure for me to be here with you this morning at your annual
convention. The fast pace of change and the intense level of competition that have
become prevalent in today’s financial service industry present challenges and
opportunities to bankers everywhere. I would like to talk about the changes that are
likely to occur in banking from now until the end of the century, including the types
of services that probably will emerge and the kinds of skills that will be needed to
succeed in banking. I’ll also have some comments on the implications of these changes
for urban bankers in tomorrow’s financial services industry.
Financial Services—Today Versus Yesterday
In order to see where banking is headed, I think it’s a good idea to look around
and see where we stand today compared with, say, the situation 10 or 20 years ago.
From the time of the Great Depression until quite recently competition among banks
was restricted in three broad areas: geographic markets, products lines, and interest
rates. Rigid limitations restricted banks’ freedom to establish branches or other offices,
and most banks’ markets were generally confined to their own states or even to certain
counties or regions within those states. Other restrictions, long thought to be inflexible,
regulated their ability to expand product lines. Legal ceilings placed a cap on the level
of interest rates banks could pay on various kinds of deposits, dampening any competition
that might emerge.
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Over the last decade the situation has changed considerably. Interest rate ceilings
began to erode in the early 1970s, when savers discovered government securities,
commercial paper, and other assets paying market rates and when nonbanking financial
service companies began offering money market mutual funds. As you know, the
popularity of these interest-bearing accounts, which in many respects serve as substitutes
for bank deposits, accelerated sharply in the latter half of the 1970s. As banks and
other depository institutions began to lose deposits permanently, or so it seemed,
pressures mounted for deregulation of interest rate ceilings. Today, the deregulation
of interest rates on deposits is virtually complete. Banks and thrifts now have money
market deposit accounts and Super NOW accounts with which to compete against money
market funds, and they have had considerable success in regaining deposits formerly
lost to nonbank financial institutions. Only passbook savings accounts, NOW accounts,
and, of course, demand deposits are limited by interest ceilings. Ceilings on all interest
earning accounts will be eliminated on or before March 31, 1986.
The waning of interest rate ceilings occurred along with some product expansion.
Banks have found ways to offer discount brokerage services in this country and to
underwrite insurance and securities abroad. Thrifts and credit unions offer transactions
accounts and loans to consumers and businesses. Many banks are clamoring for powers
to underwrite and sell insurance, securities, and real estate.
Although legislative barriers to full interstate banking still stand, banking across
state lines has, nonetheless, emerged as a marketplace reality. Through a variety of
strategems—including such devices as loan production offices, bank holding company
subsidiaries, and the so-called ’’nonbank banks’’ and ’’nonthrift thrifts’’--firms ranging
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from banks and S&Ls to supermarkets and general merchandisers are offering a mixture
of financial services through offices scattered from the Atlantic to the Pacific. If we
count the number of offices of foreign banks, Edge Act corporations, loan production
offices, and other nonbanking subsidiaries of banks and bank holding companies as well
as grandfathered interstate banking offices that are operating across state lines, the
number of interstate offices offering various types of banking services totals almost
8,000! When you compare this figure to the number of commercial banks in the United
States—a total of 15,000 with 55,000 offices engaged in full-service banking, you can
see that we already have a significant amount of what is essentially interstate banking.
What’s more, many individual states have adopted laws that allow out-of-state
banks to operate within their borders, further weakening geographic limitations. In all,
about half the states have approved laws of this type, and more than one-fifth have
adopted regional reciprocal interstate banking laws. These states are concentrated
primarily in New England and the Southeast. Many thrifts are also marketing their
services across state lines, not just in contiguous states but throughout the country,
having purchased other, ailing thrifts under special legislation. By the end of next year,
if nonbank banks win appeals from a pair of adverse decisions, we may find banks from
about one-third of the states operating deposit-taking offices in at least 40 states.
Forces of Change
How did all this happen? How and why did our traditionally conservative sector
of the economy undergo such dramatic changes in so short a time? As I see it, three
fundamental forces account for these changes. These are inflation, technology, and
the natural forces of competition. Inflation and its interaction with market forces
deserve much of the credit—or blame, depending on your perspective—for interest-rate
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deregulation. The acceleration of inflation in the 1970s made traditional savings
accounts, with their interest rate ceilings, less appealing to depositors. The buying
power of their deposits was shrinking faster than the interest earned on them. Investors
sought and found opportunities to earn more lucrative returns outside traditional
depository institutions. In response to this increased competition from outside the
banking industry, banks and other depository institutions sought relief from interest
rate ceilings. Large banks found ways of raising funds abroad, in an environment free
of constraints, and others began to press for the deregulation that was finally enacted.
The national and international linking of markets that occurred, when combined
with competition, also found a way to erode barriers to interstate banking and product
diversification. Some of the latest proliferation of interstate banking offices has
occurred as a result of an ambiguity in the Bank Holding Company Act, defining a bank
as an institution that accepts deposits and makes commercial loans. Some bank holding
companies interpreted that clause to mean that subsidiaries which engage in one, but
not both, of these two functions could legally operate insured commercial banks in
more than one state. Other, nonbank, firms have used the device to enter banking,
thus combining banking with businesses such as insurance and securities underwiritng
which have been prohibited to banks by other federal laws. This either/or interpretation
gave rise to the term Tfnonbank bank,” with which youTre all now quite familiar. I
sometimes awaken from a dream, or perhaps a nightmare, in which a non-Fed Fed is
trying to oversee these nonbank banks. After a lengthy period of legal wrangling, and
after it became apparent that Congress was not likely to address the issue anytime
soon, last fall the Comptroller of the Currency approved a number of long-pending
applications for nonbank bank charters. Over 200 were subsequently approved by the
Comptroller, the chief regulator of national banks. However, a suit by the Florida
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Independent Bankers Association challenging the jurisdiction of the Comptroller and a
recent federal court ruling ruling in Atlanta disallowing the Fed’s reluctant approval of
a nonbank bank acquisition by a bank holding company have brought approvals for bank
holding companies to a standstill. At this point, the status of nonbank banks remains
in legislative and judicial limbo.
Our legislators in Washington and in state capitals may debate the merits of
these trends for a few more years, and they may influence the speed and course of
interstate banking. Nonetheless, it is probably too late for legislators to effectively
stem the tide of interstate banking that is being propelled by market forces. A few
days ago the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that state banking laws limiting interstate
mergers to certain other states are within the bounds of the constitution and federal
banking statutes. The case before the Supreme Court had been filed by Citicorp and
New England Bancorp of New Haven, Connecticut. They had challenged the Federal
Reserve Board’s approval of mergers under state laws that limit such mergers to states
participating in the New England regional interstate compact. That decision is of
particular interest to us here in the Southeast, of course, but it has been watched
closely by legislators from other states such as Oregon, where regional interstate banking
is under consideration. It could have implications for the merger of Florida’s Sun Banks
and Trust Company of Georgia as well since Citicorp has also filed suit in the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the Second District in New York to block the SunTrust merger.
As a result of this decision we will probably see further expansion of interstate
banking, particularly by regional banks rather than by the large money center banks.
The latter now are more limited to such legal devices as nonbank banks and to technical
devices such as computers and telephone lines as means of widening their geographic
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markets, and the future of nonbank banks rests largely with Congress and possibly the
Supreme Court. Even if either of these countermands nonbank banks, though, I doubt
that competitive pressures will rest on a plateau of regional interstate compacts.
Rather, I would not be surprised to see the arena of competition shift to the product
area. Large banks in New York, California, and elsewhere might lobby harder to be
allowed to offer various services now deemed outside the proper realm of banking.
The market forces that led to the erosion of interest rate ceilings will lead many
institutions to look for ways to surmount remaining restraints on full nationwide
competition, and I suspect that they will find avenues to do so.
At the same time that environmental and competitive pressures have been
transforming the financial services industry, a technological revolution has been taking
place in our payments system. This technological revolution has amplified these other
changes taking place in the industry. ATMs and other computerized services put
customers and financial institutions in touch more quickly without the personnel and
capital expense of bricks-and-mortar branches. Thus, the physical branch system of
banks and S<5cLs, one of their unique features, has become less significant. Although
checks and cash will remain important into the foreseeable future, paperless transactions
involving wire transfers and automated clearinghouses are growing far more rapidly.
Networks linking automated teller machines are offering consumers unprecedented
convenience. Nonbank financial firms and bank credit card operations allow for
immediate access to cash. Travelers several thousand of miles away from home can
withdraw or borrow cash after regular business hours or 24 hours a day for that matter.
When you stop to think of it, you cannot help but be amazed by the sweeping changes
that have taken place. Those ahead may be still more amazing.
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The Future of Financial Services
Where are financial services going, and what will it be like to do business in
banks of the future? As I see it, four major forces will shape the course of tomorrow’s
financial services industry. These are the macroeconomic environment, continued
pressures from competition, regulatory changes, and even more exciting technological
innovations. Clearly, macroeconomic factors will play an important and, I believe,
positive role in determining the direction taken by banks, thrifts, and other financial
institutions. Provided progress can be made toward lowering the very large federal
budget deficit, the U.S. economy is likely to grow at a healthy pace over the next
decade. Such growth should help mitigate problems such as the high incidence of
failures we have experienced in the past few years. This expected economic expansion
will also increase demand for all kinds of financial services, thereby creating an
environment of growth and opportunities for financial institutions in general.
Since this sort of macroeconomic growth will require a stable as well as a highly
developed and responsive financial system, we will probably experience some changes
in the regulatory environment to ensure the continuing soundness of our financial system.
Increases in bank capital ratios have already been enacted. We may see a change in
deposit insurance. Critics of the present system have proposed deposit insurance fees
based on risk, strict limits on payoffs for failed institutions, private co-insurance, and
more intense supervision. The thrust of recommendations put forth by regulatory
agencies other than the Federal Reserve is to place more risk on depositors. Under
these various proposals, depositors would bear more of the cost of risk either because
institutions would be charged for their riskiness and pass the added costs along to
customers or because insurance coverage would be limited. In either case, more of
the burden of assessing risk would fall on customers. None of the proposals is free
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from bugs; none is terribly attractive. I believe that there will be some reform,
however. In addition, we are likely to see the termination of state-based insurance
systems. Recent events in Ohio and Maryland have dramatized the fact that such
systems are not truly workable over the long run.
Notwithstanding the probability of some regulatory reform, in my opinion, the
major thrust will be toward further deregulation. Laws and regulations, no matter how
well thought out, are proving to be flimsy indeed when pitted against market forces
that push money flows into their most profitable uses. External competition will
continue from Sears, Kroger, Merrill Lynch, and other nonbanking companies as well
as from foreign institutions. Personally, I believe that Congress should close the nonbank
bank and nonthrift thrift loopholes and provide a comprehensive statutory framework
for interstate banking. Yet whatever happens, within five to seven years I feel banks
will be able to operate across state lines nationwide. On the question of new powers,
I believe there must be a serious consideration of the risks involved even though it is
likely that banks will steadily broaden the services they offer.
In addition, consolidation of institutions will continue or even accelerate, although
I doubt that financial services in this country will be dominated by a handful of large
institutions as is the case in Canada and certain other developed countries. The type
and size of America’s financial institutions will remain varied because, beyond the
range of $75-$100 million in assets, economies of scale diminish significantly.
Furthermore, large institutions have not significantly penetrated the markets or slowed
the growth of smaller ones when they have entered into direct competition. One reason
is that small institutions can offer many of the same high volume services as large
institutions by buying services at wholesale and acting as distributor; this practice
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enables small institutions to provide many of the low-cost services available at larger,
more bureaucratic financial institutions without diminishing the special features that
distinguish small institutions from larger ones.
Finally, technological changes are certain to continue or even accelerate.
Advances in computers will continue to make even more services available and
economically feasible. Home banking through a family’s personal computer is likely to
prove popular as soon as technological advances bring prices down to a more affordable
level and as children growing up with computers as both toys and educational tools
become bank customers. Technology will also probably continue to erode the importance
of branch systems while fostering the growth of alternatives that offer more convenience
to the customer. One such alternative might be limited banking services in nontraditional
locations like grocery stores. Another could be multiple services available through a
single institution such as a general merchandiser or retail store.
It is hard to predict which services will prove technologically feasible and most
popular. Yet, one thing is certain—new financial products and services are bound to
proliferate in tomorrow’s financial services industry. My confidence in this prediction
is due to the fact that the changes we have seen in the past decade or two derive
largely from competitive pressures, and these pressures are unlikely to abate through
the end of this century. Moreover, the direction of recent technological innovation
lends itself to the development of new financial products as a means of competing
more effectively.
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Tomorrow’s Skills
These expected changes in banking suggest that the types of skills necessary for
success will also continue to evolve. The profession of bankers has traditionally called
for the skills of generalists. The reason for the predominance of this attribute was
that bankers had to deal with people in so many walks of life and in such diverse
economic circumstances. Bankers have always needed broad "people" skills to deal with
a diverse clientele ranging from the young couple buying their first home to a growing
business with expanding financial demands. However, in recent years technical skills
have become increasingly important. To get ahead, bankers and banks have incorporated
an enormous amount of new technology into their day-to-day activities. Computers
are now part of almost every aspect of banking, and those bankers and banks who have
been able to learn to use them and to see new applications have done well. In addition,
products offered by the banking industry have become more complex and sophisticated.
Consequently, financial and other analytical skills have become even more important
than ever.
I see no change in this trend. Bankers will continue to need breadth of background
and an understanding of human nature in all its diversity. Solutions that seem technically
appealing and efficient can sometimes put off or even offend customers if they are
made to feel like mere appendages of a machine. On the other hand, bankers need to
have at their sides a "sharpened pencil" and the training and perseverance to use the
analytical knowledge which this term implies. Competition has simply become too
intense for bankers to skimp on technical, financial, and analytical skills.
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of black banks have assests of $25 million or less although at least one is above $100
million in assets. However, unlike many smaller banks that achieve consistently strong
financial performance by identifying and serving a profitable market niche, urban banks
depend primarily on inner city minorities as their primary source of business. Since
this segment of the population is economically disadvantaged to begin with and tends
to suffer disproportionately during times of recession, it is understandable that black-
owned banks tend to underperform relative to other small- to medium-sized institutions.
Black-owned banks might improve their financial performance by working harder to
earn and retain the loyalty of the rising number of affluent black households, who are
moving into the suburbs, as well as that of black-owned businesses. However, money
tends to flow to its most profitable use, and, by the same token, informed
customers—both businesses and households—tend to look for the best products at the
lowest prices, regardless of the social characteristics of the organization’s owners.
Thus, the future for most black bankers seems to lie primarily outside the fold of
minority-owned banks.
Here, I believe, the future of black bankers generally seems brighter. In the
last two decades black bankers in all financial institutions have made enormous strides
in terms of professional advancement. The number of black bank officers has grown
considerably in a relatively short time. The question on the mind of many blaek bankers
today, though, is whether these gains will continue. A recent survey conducted by Ed
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Irons at Atlanta University revealed substantial frustratroif among black bankers with
their current status as well as their career prospects. A number of those polled felt
their chances of being promoted into the ranks of senior management were very poor.
Other believe that, regardless of their technical know-how or educational qualifications,
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they were being overlooked even for intermediate promotions because of remaining
vestiges of exclusion from the inner circles of power.
What does the future hold for you and your colleagues as individuals in the
banking industry? Are these feelings of frustrations misplaced, or do they signal looming
losses of hard-won gains? In my opinion, your future, like that of aspiring bankers of
all ethnic groups and races will be influenced heavily by the new spirit of competition
that has come to dominate the financial services industry. In this more competitive
environment there will be more emphasis than ever on recruiting the best, most
innovative, and most efficient talent available, the talent that is likely to help a
particular institution’s profitability and growth. In this environment, the personnel skills
I mentioned earlier apply equally to blacks as to all racial, ethnic, and gender groups.
To get ahead in banking will require making a contribution, whether in the form of
technical skills, financial analysis, or having the foresight and vision regarding new
applications and products. In the years ahead all banks will need plenty of people with
sharpened pencils in order to compete against both banks from other geographic areas
and nonbanking financial institutions. Current demographics, however, may make things
even more difficult for younger black bankers for a while. Because of the post-war
baby-boom, tl>e number of candidates for lower level officer jobs has swelled far beyond
normal levels. This occurrence suggests that it will be harder for aspiring bank officers,
both black and white, to achieve the promotions they desire and probably deserve. In
this situation we must be sure that merit, and merit alone, determines who, among
this much larger pool of qualified candidates, is promoted.
If, as this recent survey suggests, subtle yet signficant vestiges of discrimination
persist in our industry, then it is the responsibility of organizations such as the National
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Association of Urban Bankers to identify in specific terms the dimensions of this
problem, to suggest remedies, and to petition decision makers in banking for redress
of legitimate grievances. Obversely, it is the responsibility of those already in power
to make sure that progress toward equitable treatment of minorities and other
disadvantaged groups is not once again impeded. Their interest in doing so stems in
part from basic economic incentives. Any business leader must attempt to conserve
resources and allocate them as efficiently as possible. Since banks are highly labor
intensive, it makes good business sense to avoid underutilization of outstanding human
resources and to avoid wasting its most precious assets in positions that do not bring
out their fullest potential as individuals and members of the organization. Even more
importantly, the interest of banking leaders should also stem from fundamental ethical
considerations. They must guard against and extirpate whatever conscious and
unconscious vestiges of discrimination still remain in the financial services industry.
Will there be a special role for black bankers? As society becomes more
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integrated, the need diminishes for special institutions dealing with those who have
been victims of exclusion in the past. Thus, I feel the special role that black bankers
in minority-owned banks is also likely to wane. However, there are important roles
that black bankers will play in banking generally. First, black bankers such as many
of you in this audience can serve as role models and mentors to those now entering
and coming up through the ranks. Many of you have experienced trying situations
during your careers in banking. Your insight and advice regarding how you triumphed
over these circumstances is invaluable to a younger generation of urban bankers. In
addition, as you develop more experience in the broad areas of banking and with the
myriad of new financial instruments coming on stream, you could bring to black banks
a greater wealth of experience than some have enjoyed in the past. This experience
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could help such institutions improve their profitability .and overall financial performance.
Finally, you may offer your institutions a better understanding of how to market to a
clientele which many banks have overlooked but whom nonbanking financial institutions
and even nonfinancial companies are now attempting, with some success, to woo.
Conclusion
Let me conclude by reminding you of the challenges in the financial services
industry today. In the case of urban banks, the paramount challenge is to steer a
course toward diversification. For black bankers more generally the future will depend
largely, as it does for all bankers, on how well you can adapt to today’s more competitive
banking environment, on how flexible you are in developing your skills to change with
the times. Despite the sometimes intimidating nature of the developments taking place
and the problems you confront, all banks and bankers have greater opportunities than
^ ever before as the financial services industry becomes less regulated, more diversified,
and more dynamic. In moving to take advantage of those opportunities, I am hopeful
that urban bankers, through diversification of your skills and a positive attitude toward
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APA
Robert P. Forrestal (1985, June 12). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19850613_robert_p_forrestal
BibTeX
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author = {Robert P. Forrestal},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {1985},
month = {Jun},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19850613_robert_p_forrestal},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}