speeches · May 29, 1985
Regional President Speech
J. Roger Guffey · President
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Thank you for the invitation to meet with you t his morning.
As many of you know, we at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas
City appreciate the opportunity to discuss matters of mutual
interes t with representatives of t his region's vital small
business communi ty. We have enjoyed productive discussions for a
number of years.
Many of you will recall that back in 1979 t hings were
pa r ticulary difficult for t he nation's economy and for people
operating small businesses. Rapid inflation was conti nuing at
double digit levels and interest rates were in the 20 per cent
range. During t his period--and into 1980, 1981 and 1982--we met
regul arly with representatives of Small Business United to
discuss t he role of Federal Reserve policy in our economy ana to
gain a better insight into economic developments and, the impact
of economic pol ici es on small businesses.
As many of you know, this first effort to exchange
information between small business and the Reserve spread
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to other areas of the country and other Reserve Banks. Finally,
planted in Kansas City through the etfort s ot Ron
Piercy, Mike Milvai n, Jim Kirk and others, led to the
establishment early this year of small business advi sory councils
at all 12 Federal Reserve Banks. I must tell you that we are
pleased that Ron Piercy has agreed to serve as one ot t he ni ne
members of our council, which is made up of persons in small
business and agriculture from t hroughout our seven-state region.
The council' s first formal meet i ng was held about a month ago.
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I feel we have come a long way together. We in t he Fed have
confirmed our understanding of the i mportant role of small
business in the economy . And we hope many small business people
better understand the Federal Reserve's objecti ves and the
pol icie s a~d t ools we have available to ach ieve those oDjectives.
I believe we have come to understand together tha t t he economic
objectives of business and t he Federal Reserve are essentiall y
t he same.
In considering t he economic objecti ves we share , let me turn
now and focus on t his morning's subject. My message includes a
view that the nation's economy--de spi te some uneven performance -
is in relatively good shape now, but that t here are fundamental
problems that demand the attention of policymakers. How those
problems are addressed will largely determine the nation's
economic f ut ure.
Let's look first at t he cur rent situation. As you know, the
currnt economic expa nsion has continued for two and a half years.
As you also know, this expansion has been oucstanding in many
respects. Spurred initially by a drop in the rate of i nf lation,
and t hen urged on by the de cline in short-term interest ra tes
t hat be gan in 1982, economic growt h was remarkably strong in 1983
a nd through the first half of 1984.
Even though the pace of economic growt h slowed somewha t
beginning in the third quarter l ast year--a development to oe
expe cted as t he expansion matured- -this par ticular period of u.S.
busi ness growth has been the strongest since t he Korean War.
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Economi c expansion over this period has been aided by
relatively favorable level s of interest rates. Though both
nominal and real interest rates are still very high by historic
standar s, consumers and businesses nonethel ess have been
encouraged t o borr ow to expand their purchases of goods and
services. strong credit dema nd caused short-te rm interest rates
to trend upwards t hrough much of 1983 and 1984, but these rates
dropped sharply last fall when business growth slowed. Reacti g
to these declines and, to an ext e nt, facilitating them, t he
Federal Reserve reduced the discount rate t o 8 per cent in
December, and to 7 1/ 2 pe r cent just two weeks ago, t he l owest
level since 1978.
Al l in all, the past two years or so ot economic growth have
provided compelling evidence of our economy's breadth and power.
In particular, we can t ake pride that more t han 7 mi llion j obs
have already been created duri ng t he expan sion. And we can point
to many other positive developments, such as capital i nvestment-
whi ch is up more than 30 per cent in real terms over the pe riod.
But most of all, we are pleased that the contidence ot consumers
and businesses has been restored af t er a dismal per i od of
economic stagnation and recession. That period which preceded
the cur rent expansion included the most devastating recession
since the depression of the 1930's. So t he renewed PUblic
confi dence is a hard-won victory. /
A major reason for the restoration of confidence in the
nation's economic future is, in my j udgement, the absence of
excessive infl ationary pressures. Now, even arter a period of
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fairly rapid economic growth, infl a tion rema i ns a rel atively
moderate 4 per cent or so on an annual basis. As you would
expect--given the Federal Reserve's commi t ment t o anti-inflation
policies--we are gratified at the progress made so far buc che
is not yet won.
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De spite the undeniable benef its to our economy of more
moderate i nf l ation and lower interest rates, a number of problems
rema in to be addressed before we can feel fully opt i mist 1c abouc
the longer-term health of our economy. Many of t hese probl ems
are related to ad justments required in moving from a period of
rapi d i nfl ation and high inflationary expectations t o a period
with a more moderate inflationary outlook. As you know, many
decisions made earli er i n anticipat ion of ongoing inflation
continue to pl ague busi nesses and financial i ns titut 10ns during
the current per i od of di sinflation. The consequences of those
ea rlier inflat i on-biased decisions often are not easily managed
and, taken together, compl icate the search for solutions to our
economic problems .
Agai nst that background of strong busi ness growth ana
moderate inflat i on, I would l ike to consider with you briefly t he
outlook for t he na tion's economy. Before giving you my
impreBsions of the near-term prospects for continued business
growth, I want to examine the potent i al for the nation's long
term economic health. In so doing, I want to note s ome problems
which, in my view, remain barr iers in the path of sustainable
noninflationa ry growt h that we seek. These problems, which
include the na tion's internat i onal trade def icit, the strains
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affecting our f i nanc ial institutions, and the federal budget
deficit s, are all interrelated.
One problem is the strength of the u.s. doll ar in
inter nat ional currency markets resulting from our relat 1vely high
interest ra tes and our favorable business situation. with the
dol lar so strong, u.s. exports have been weak as domestic
producers have been priced out of world markets . Over all, t he
poor performance of the export sector has caused the current
business expansion to be very unbalance d. Our own region, in
particular, has suffe r ed because agricultural proQucers have lost
ma ny export sales. Other sectors serving agricult ure have been
robbed of potential growth. At the same time, the flooa of
imported goods priced in weaker currencies has contributed to the
se r i ous imbalance i n our trade position, wh i le steal1ng sales
f rom our domestic busi nesses.
To be sur e , a strong dollar has brought our economy some
temporary benefits. For exampl e, the i nflow of foreign capit al
has helped in the short run to finance both the business
expansion and t he federal budget deficit. Another benefit i s
that the ava i labil i t y of abundant foreign capi t al has kept our
interest rates l ower than they otherwise mi ght have been. But
these so-called benefit s have certain side effects. Some
observers have pointed out that the United state s i s rapidly
becoming a debtor nation, an unf amiliar situation, inaeea, for
the richest nat i on in the world.
When the in ternational value of t he dollar eventually
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declines, which i t will, the conseq uences of that decline will
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present mixed bles sings, at best. On the positi ve side, a lower
dollar would certai nly improve the competitive position of U.S.
goods in world markets and boost our lagging export sector.
However, a fall i ng dollar could put upward pressure on domestic
inter~st rates--as foreign capital moves elsewhere. Moreover, a
declining dollar will lead to some i nflationary pressures as
foreign goods become more cost ly and as domesti c businesses l ose
some compet itive price discipline. In any case, the strength of
t he dollar has been a problem and a decline in its val ue may wel l
have negative consequences.
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a second problem is the continuing strains affecti ng our
financial i ns titutions. One highl y vlsible aspect of t his
problem is the inability of many lesser developed countr ies to
repay on time or even service their huge debt s in the face of
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worldwide recession and disinf lation. This situation has raised
questions about t he earnings and capital positions of many of the
world's major banks. Fortunately, it appears that l ower interest
rates, rest ructured loan agreement s , and worldwide economic
growth have begun to ease SOme of the pressure. Nevert hel ess,
resol ution of t he problem wi ll require considerable time ana
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effects will add a precautionary flavor to the out look for years
to come.
Though the international debt crisis dominated many of the
headlines over the last two years or so, financial inst i t ut ions
have been beset by domesti c troubles, as well. An extendea
period of high i nterest rates--caused, in my view, by t he federal
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budget deficits--has created continui ng difficulties for ma ny
business firms, particularly in agriculture ana energy. These
problems, in turn, have been felt by financial institutions
struggling to help finance the economic expans ion.
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deregUlation has also contributed to the problems of f inancial
institutions. Weakened thrift inst i tutIons and bank failures-
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79 last year and about so far in 1985--are symptoms of these
problems. So, too, are the troubles of Continental IllinOIs ana,
to some extent, the Ohio and Maryland thri ft institut ions in
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recent mont hs.
A thi rd--and the most t r oubling and pervasive--proolem
cloudi ng the long-term economic outlook is the current and
prospective fede r al budget deficits. I don't plan on "preaching
to the choir" t his morni ng because I know that most of you here
share the conviction that continuing massive budget det icits
represents a serious hazard to economic progress. Small business
re presentatives have been quite vocal in expressing their
conce rns about t he perils of the deficits and I know that that
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many of yo have written or visited with your elected
re presentati ves i n Washi ngton about this issue.
Many of us beli eve t hat the government's borrowing to fina nce
the deficit s wil l ultimately collide with the private s e ctor's
need for credit to fund continued growth. When both public a nd
private credit demands are growing, the l ikelihood of rising
i nt erest rates increases, as well. Aside from thei r costly
impa ct on business, r i si ng interes t rates could rai se public
fears about renewed i nflation. And high inflatIona ry
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expectations would surel y weaken the foundation of growth w1t h
lower i nflation which has been laid.
I do want t o emphasize my beliet that reducing--and
eventuall y eliminati ng--budget deficits would remove a persistent
thorn ~rom' the side of the nation's economic potential .
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Does anyone not believe that real deficit reduct i ons WOUl~
r educe real interest rates and diminish the inflat10nary fears \
generated by such mas sive deficits? such a result surely would
hel p rel ax u ard pressure on t he lar and permit u.s. export s
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to compet e more effectively in world ma rketsJ If t he dollar's
relative val ue could be reduced gr adually, a series of orderl y
adjustments in int ernational f inancial and commodity ma rkets
could take place. Furthermore, if deficit reduct10ns ease
int erest rate pressur es, our financial institutions coul d
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ant i ci pate fUrther relief from the st rai ns I described earlier.
In t he f inal analysis, meaningful defici t-reduct ion action is
an absolutel y necessary step in resolving the problems cloudi ng
t he long-term outlook. Moreover, in my judgement, such a program
is essenti al for the ultimat e economic health of t he nation.
Thus , we all are wa tching the current budget debates in
Washingt on with considerable concern. Let us hope that tne
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current discussionsj\w 1 indeed, lead to a strong first step
toward a real political commitment for def icit reduction.
Now let me turn to a brief discussion of the economic outlook
for 1985. On this count, I continue to be general ly opt i mis tlc
that moderate and sus tainable economic growth with relatively l ow
inflation can be achieved this year. I say this because recent
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devel opments appear to have set the stage for such an out come,
even though some observers now are questioning the staying power
of the business expansion. /
For one thing, short-term interest rates have come down
sharply over t he past 10 months or so and remain well below last
summer 1s peaks, primarily because credit demands have lessened as
the economy shifted from rapid growth to a more sustainable pace.
But I believe that these lower levels of interest rates also
reflect optimism about inflation. Downward pressure on oil
prices and continuing moder ation in wages and commodi ty prices
are helping to reinforce reduced inflat ionary expectat ions and to
preserve real income gains. Given this posit1ve tone, I believe
that households and businesses will be encouraged to continue to
lead the expansion.
Though economic data are showing some m1xed signals,
continuing strength is evident in spending for construction and
other capital i tems, in factory orders, and in overall consumer
spending, including sales of new homes and automobiles. However,
the manufacturing and export sectors remain quite weak and
capital spending appears to be sl owing rather abruptly this year.
These developments and t heir effect on the OUtlOOK are st1ll
generally in line with economic projections ma6e in February by
members of t he Federal Open Market Committee. My colleagues ana
I collect i vely expect ed real GNP growth thi s year in t he 3 t o 4
per cent range, with prices rising perhaps 3 1/2 to 4 per cent.
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WeAexpect unemployment in the fourth quarter of 1985 t o average
about 6 1/2 t o 7 percent.
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As always, a key factor in the economic outl ook for 1985 is
the role that monetary policy will play. As most would agree,
monetary policy has earned considerable credibility in t he
financial markets and among the American public because of the
Federal Reserve's consistent adherence to a f irm anti-
inflationary policy. This policy is generally credited for much
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of the success to date in bringing infl a tion underAcontrol.
Thus, it wi ll not surprise you much when I say that, for 1985,
the Federal Re serve remains comroitted to providing money and
credit to the economy at a pace which will support s ustainable
business expansion while, at the same t 1me, maintain1ng progress
toward price stability. I should point out that the tentative
growth rate ranges for t he monetary aggregates announcea i n
February again reaffirm our stated intention to reduce, over
time, the growth of money and credit.
With continued moderate economic growth and typical demand
for money and credit, we would expect interest rates to rema in
relat ively stable over the upcoming period. Many financial
market observers believe that the Federal Reserve's recent
discount rate action will complement a general move to lower
short-term rates in corning weeks. What the Federal Reserve seeks
over the long run, of course, is for interest rates t o corne down
and stay down so that greater investment and continued growth
will be encouraged. In the short run, however, given the Federal
Rese rve's commitment to a policy of moderate growth in money and
credit, and given no resolution of the deficit issue, a return to
very rapid economic growth would again undoubtedly put upward
pressure on interest rates.
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In summary, the economy has grown steadily over the past two
and a half years, and it should continue t o expand through 1985.
The pace of expansi on t hi s year wll1 be somewhat more moderat e
t han the earlier rapid growth, but that is t o be expect ed in a
maturing expansion. Over the longer term, however , the ultimate
health of the economy depends on meaningful reductions in the
huge f ederal budget deficits. Such reductions would help
i mportantly to bring about orderly domestic and international
adjustments to t he new environment of disinflatlon. I am
convinced that if our e lected officials will seriously addre s s
t his issue we can look forward to continued progress for t he
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APA
J. Roger Guffey (1985, May 29). Regional President Speech. Speeches, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19850530_j_roger_guffey
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_regional_speeche_19850530_j_roger_guffey,
author = {J. Roger Guffey},
title = {Regional President Speech},
year = {1985},
month = {May},
howpublished = {Speeches, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/regional_speeche_19850530_j_roger_guffey},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}