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FOMC Press Conference Transcript
Jerome H. Powell
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Transcript of Chairman Powell’s Press Conference
December 19, 2018
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for being here
today.
Over the past year, the economy has been growing at a strong pace, the unemployment
rate has been near record lows, and inflation has been low and stable. All of those things remain
true today. Since the September meeting of the FOMC, however, some crosscurrents have
emerged. I’ll explain how my colleagues and I are incorporating those crosscurrents into our
judgments about the outlook and the appropriate course of policy.
Since September, the U.S. economy has continued to perform well, roughly in line with
our expectations. The economy has been adding jobs at a pace that will continue bringing the
unemployment rate down over time. Wages have moved up for workers across a wide range of
occupations, a welcome development. Inflation has remained low and stable, and is ending the
year a bit more subdued than most had expected. Although some American families and
communities continue to struggle and some longer-term economic problems remain, the strong
economy is benefiting many Americans.
Despite this robust economic backdrop and our expectation for healthy growth, we have
seen developments that may signal some softening relative to what we were expecting a few
months ago. Growth in other economies around the world has moderated somewhat over the
course of 2018, albeit to still-solid levels. At the same time, financial market volatility has
increased over the past couple of months, and overall financial conditions have tightened--that is,
they have become less supportive of growth.
In our view, these developments have not fundamentally altered the outlook. Most
FOMC participants have, instead, modestly lowered their growth and inflation forecasts for next
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year. The projections of Committee participants released today show growth continuing at
healthy levels, the unemployment rate falling a bit further next year, and inflation remaining near
2 percent. The projections also show a modestly lower path for the federal funds rate, which
should support the economy and keep us near our goals. As the economy struggled to recover
from the financial crisis and the subsequent recession, the Committee held our policy rate near
zero for seven years to give the economy the best chance to recover. And the economy did
recover steadily, if slowly at times. Three years ago the Committee came to the view that the best
way to achieve our mandate was to gradually move interest rates back to levels that are more
normal in a healthy economy. Today, we raised our target range for short-term interest rates by
another quarter of a percentage point. As I’ve mentioned, most of my colleagues expect the
economy to continue to perform well in the coming year. Many FOMC participants had expected
that economic conditions would likely call for about three more rate increases in 2019. We have
brought that down a bit and now think it is more likely that the economy will grow in a way that
will call for two interest rate increases over the course of next year.
We always emphasize that our policy decisions are not on a preset course and will change
if incoming data materially change the outlook. And, given recent developments, the statement
notes that we “will continue to monitor global economic and financial developments and assess
their implications for the economic outlook.”
Now I will provide some additional context and detail, starting with a review of policy
over the last year. Last December, the unemployment rate was 4.1 percent and inflation had been
running just below 2 percent. FOMC participants and many other forecasters were predicting that
growth in 2018 would be strong. This growth was predicted to push the unemployment rate
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down to near historic lows, and the increasingly tight labor market was expected to help push
inflation up to 2 percent.
Given this outlook, Committee members judged that the appropriate way to sustain the
expansion with inflation near 2 percent was to continue gradually withdrawing the extraordinary
support for the economy that had been in place for almost 10 years. Thus, in December 2017, the
median of the projections of FOMC participants pointed to three quarter-point interest rate
increases in 2018, which would have left the target range for the federal funds rate at year-end at
2 to 2-1/4 percent, still below most estimates of the longer-run normal rate.
Early in 2018, it became clear that the economy was likely to be even stronger than we
had expected, in part because the fiscal stimulus adopted near the start of the year was larger and
more front-end loaded than most had anticipated. The signs of a more robust economy proved
accurate, and the FOMC has now raised rates four times this year, counting today’s action, one
more time than anticipated in the median projection a year ago.
This illustrates the nature of data dependence that we always emphasize. In 2018, the
economy was somewhat more robust than expected, and this led to a slightly faster pace of
policy normalization than had been projected. When the economy has, instead, turned out weaker
than expected, the Committee has slowed or paused the pace of rate increases--as we did in 2016.
And when the economy has performed about as expected, the Committee has generally moved in
line with the median projection--as we did in 2017.
What kind of year will 2019 be? We know that the economy may not be as kind to our
forecasts next year as it was this year. History attests that unforeseen events as the year unfolds
may buffet the economy and call for more than a slight change from the policy projections
released today.
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With that caveat, there are two important differences in the policy outlook today versus
last year. In early 2018, we saw a rising trajectory for growth; today, instead, we see growth
moderating ahead. FOMC participants along with many other forecasters had long predicted
some moderation of growth in 2019. The additional tightening of financial conditions we have
seen over the past couple of months, along with signs of somewhat weaker growth abroad, have
also led us to mark down growth and inflation projections a bit. The median of FOMC
participants’ projections shows growth of 3.0 percent this year and 2.3 percent in 2019. With
growth remaining next year above its longer-run normal value, the unemployment rate is
projected to fall a bit further to 3.5 percent by the end of 2019. Inflation in the median projection
remains near 2 percent.
Second, the economy has continued to strengthen this year. And given our four rate
increases and the ongoing reduction in our portfolio, monetary policy will be providing a smaller
boost to the economy in 2019. After today’s action, the target range for the federal funds rate is
2-1/4 to 2-1/2 percent, putting it at the lower end of the range of estimates of the longer-run
normal rate provided by the Committee.
Over the next year, if events play out broadly as expected, the federal funds rate will be
in a range in which judgments of people both inside and outside the Fed will sometimes differ
regarding whether the stance of policy is modestly accommodative, neutral, or modestly
restrictive. When rates are in this range, the FOMC makes policy in light of the array of diverse
views on the Committee. Moving forward, my colleagues and I will be watching the economy
closely for indications that the stance of policy is appropriate to sustain the expansion with a
strong labor market and inflation near 2 percent.
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It is worth noting that the Summary of Economic Projections (SEP) is a compilation of
the individual projections of all FOMC participants. We sometimes point to the median of these
projections to illustrate the broad middle of views of the Committee. Each participant’s
projection represents appropriate policy under the baseline outlook provided by that participant.
We believe that the SEP provides useful information about Committee participants’ thinking, but
the median is not a consensus judgment, and certainly does not represent a Committee plan.
Actual policy will, as always, be adjusted as incoming data shed light on the state of the
economy, the outlook, and the changing balance of risks.
Neither the pace nor the ultimate destination of any further rate increases is
predetermined. We will adjust monetary policy as best we can to keep the expansion on track,
the labor market strong, and inflation near 2 percent. We know that our policy decisions affect all
American families and businesses, and will continue to make our decisions objectively and based
solely on the best information and analysis. Thank you, and I’ll be happy to take you questions.
SAM FLEMING. Sam Fleming from the Financial Times. One of the recent surprises
had been fairly tepid inflation data. I wonder if first of all you could explain why you think,
despite the extremely tight labor market, we're still not seeing much in the way of inflationary
pressures. In the context of a more data-dependent Fed, how will the Fed respond to further
undershoots of inflation moving into next year? Thanks.
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Well, you're right, Sam. Inflation has come in just a touch
below where we expected it to be, not by a big amount but by a small amount. More broadly,
2018 has been the strongest year since the recovery, since the financial crisis. And during that
period, we've had low unemployment and strong growth, and inflation has still remained just a
touch below 2 percent. So, I do think that gives the Committee the ability to be patient in moving
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forward. As I mentioned, there's significant uncertainty about both the path and the ultimate
destination of any further rate increases.
HEATHER LONG. Hi, Heather Long from The Washington Post. Today, the Fed
lowered its expectations for interest rate increases. Given that, I'm wondering if the Fed has had
any discussion of altering the course of balance sheet normalization, and if you could give us any
insight on what might lead the FOMC to alter that balance sheet normalization in 2019?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Sure. If you go back some years, I think we, people who were
working at the Fed in 2013 and 14, took away the lesson that the markets could be very sensitive
to news about the size of the balance sheet, the pace of asset purchases, the pace of runoff and
things like that. So, we thought carefully about this on how to normalize policy and came to the
view that we would effectively have the balance sheet runoff on automatic pilot and use
monetary policy, rate policy, to adjust to incoming data.
And I think that has been a good decision. I think that the runoff of the balance sheet has
been smooth and has served its purpose. And I don't see us changing that. And I do think that we
will continue to use monetary policy, which is to say rate policy, as the active tool of monetary
policy. Thanks.
NICK TIMIRAOS. Nick Timiraos of the Wall Street Journal. Chairman Powell, you
talked a little bit earlier about the ability to be patient. And so as you think about your next
policy moves, are you inclined to go the current recent pace to a slightly different destination
that's laid out in the projections today? Or does the current environment of restrained inflation
maybe allow you to space out your next few moves and take more time to get there?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So, as background, I would just point to 2018 being a very
strong year, and the Committee looking forward to 2019 and still having what amounts to a
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positive forecast. We still are forecasting individually growth a bit above its longer run potential,
2.3 percent is what we're forecasting. We're forecasting that growth will be strong enough that
unemployment will drop still further, and inflation will remain right near our target. So, I'd say
that's a reasonably positive forecast.
Going forward, you know, I will be looking, in particular, to see whether incoming data
tell us that we are, in fact, on that path. That development of the economy is in line with that
expectation. That will be the main thing. More broadly, though, I think we've reached the bottom
end of the range of Committee estimates of what might be neutral. I think from this point
forward, we're going to be letting the data speak to us and form the outlook and form our
understanding of what would be appropriate policy. So, there's a fairly high degree of uncertainty
about both the path and the ultimate destination of any further increases.
STEVE LIESMAN. Mr. Chairman, Steve Liesman, CNBC. Could you tell us how three
things affected the outlook for the economy and rates? The first is how the market's decline
affected the outlook for the economy and for rates. The second is trade tensions and the tariff,
how you factor that into your outlook. And the third is comments by the president urging you not
to hike rates.
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So as I mentioned, we monitor a broad range of economic
conditions, including financial conditions, a broad range of financial conditions, and we took
onboard the tightening in financial conditions, which not any one condition but broadly
speaking, financial conditions have tightened since the September meeting really. So we took
that onboard in our forecast. That's why the forecast for growth and inflation went down a little
bit, but remember, that's in a context of a more accommodative path. So we also took down our
rate forecast. So we definitely did take that into account, and as you can see from the statement
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language, we acknowledged those risks in the clause about monitoring developments. And we're
going to be watching carefully to see as those things develop.
I think more broadly, there's been a sense of concern among business people and market
people about global growth, and you know, that may be partly about trade tensions, it may be
partly about a variety of things. If you just mechanically drop into a model of the US economy
tariffs, you don't see very large effects. The large effects would have to come from financial
market changes or from losses and business confidence. And those are things that are very
difficult to model.
On your third factor, you know, political considerations have played no role whatsoever
in our discussion or decisions about monetary policy. We're always going to be focused on the
mission that Congress has given us. We have the tools to carry it about. We have the
independence, which we think is essential to be able to do our jobs in a nonpolitical way. And
you know, we are, we at the Fed are absolutely committed to that mission, and nothing will deter
us from doing what we think is the right thing to do.
BINYAMIN APPLEBAUM. Binyamin Applebaum, The New York Times. You're about
to undershoot your inflation target for the seventh straight year. Your new forecasts say that
you're going to undershoot it for the eighth straight year. Should we interpret the dot plot is
suggesting that some members of your Committee believe that policy should be in a restrictive
range by the end of next year? And if so, can you help us to understand why people would be
advocating restrictive monetary policy at a time of persistent inflation undershoots?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Well, we, as a Committee, we do not desire inflation
undershoots. And you're right, inflation has continued to surprise to the downside, not by a lot
though, I think. We're very close to 2 percent, and you know, we do believe it's a symmetric goal
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for us. Inflation is symmetric around 2 percent, and that's how we're going to look at it. We're not
trying to be under 2 percent. We're trying to be symmetrically around 2 percent, and I don't, you
know, I've never said that I feel like we've achieved that goal yet. The only way to achieve
inflation symmetrically around 2 percent is to have inflation symmetrically around 2 percent, and
we've been close to that. We haven't gotten there yet, and we have not declared victory on that.
So, that remains to be accomplished.
JEANNA SMIALEK. Hi, Jeanna Smialek, Bloomberg News. Just following up on
Binyamin's question. I guess if you haven't achieved 2 percent inflation and you don't see an
overshoot, which would be sort of implied by a symmetrical target, what's the point in raising
rates again at all?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So again, I go back to the health of the economy. When you
look at 2018, as I mentioned, this the best year since the financial crisis. You've had growth well
above trend. You've got unemployment dropping. You've got inflation moving up to 2 percent.
And we also have a positive forecast, as I mentioned, and in that context, we think this move was
appropriate for what is a very healthy economy.
Policy at this point does not need to be accommodative. It can move to neutral. It seems
appropriate that it be neutral. We're now at the bottom end of range of estimates of neutral. So
that's the basis upon which we made the decision. I also think we took onboard, you know, the
risks to that, and, you know, we're certainly cognizant of them.
MARTIN CRUTSINGER. Mr. Chairman, Marty Crutsinger with the AP. You've
established for this coming year a communications panel to look at how the Fed communicates.
Could you talk a little bit about what you expect to get from that panel, and will the dot plot be
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involved in that at all? How do you think the dot plot is working? Are we dealing with it the way
that you want us to be handling the dot plot, or is it something that you might tweak a bit?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So this review, what it really is, it's coming at a time when the
economy is strong, and it's a good time to take a step back, we think, and ask whether our
strategy and our tools and our communications around monetary policy are doing the job that
Congress has assigned us to do on behalf of the American people. And what we're going to do is
we're going to open ourselves up and have a discussion with many outside groups of all different
parts of the economy including, you know, an academic conference in June in Chicago.
And again, the idea is to, you know, listen to new ideas, better ideas, old ideas, many of
them have been around, and try to assess whether there are better ways we can do things. One of
the overarching facts is that rates have been really coming down overall for more than three
decades now. We may be in a world where interest rates are just lower for the time being, and
therefore, we'll have less policy space to react to economic downturns. And we'd want to be
evaluating ideas for, again, for better achieving the goals that Congress has given us.
We're not looking at law changes at all, and we're not looking at changing the inflation
target, for example. We are looking for better ways to achieve the inflation goal, for example, on
a symmetric basis. So that's the sense of that.
As I mentioned on the dot plot, you asked about the dot plot, I think the dot plot generally
does provide useful information about the reaction function of Committee participants.
Sometimes more useful than others, I'll admit. But in general, I think people sort of have it
figured out and understand what it is and what it isn't. But that doesn't mean we don't like to
repeat what it isn't. Which it's not a consensus forecast. It's not something that we vote on. It's
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something that each of us writes down, and we always update it as, you know, as data come in
and as we update our outlooks.
MICHAEL MCKEE. Michael McKee from Bloomberg Radio and Television. The
balance sheet reduction, how much additional tightening do you think has come from that. We
know in the markets that the cost of credit rising, commercial paper, repo rates, the TED spread
widening, do you see any concerns about the availability or the price of credit that could slow the
markets? And if in 2019 we see the economy start to slow, would you, if you don't adjust the
balance sheet, be risking too much tightening?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So, we do watch all of that, but the amount of runoff that we've
had so far is pretty small. And if you just run the quantitative easing models in reverse, you
would get a pretty small adjustment in economic growth and real outcomes. So we don't think,
you know, things that are happening at the short run, at the short end, are driven by many other
factors other than the balance sheet runoff.
For example, just very large build supply has pushed up short-term rates, has pushed up
repo rates. Tightening of the federal funds rate has raised short-term borrowing costs. So, you
know, we're alert to these issues. We're watching them carefully. But we don't see, you know, the
balance runoff as creating significant problems.
EDWARD LAWRENCE. Edward Lawrence, Fox Business Network. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman. We've seen enormous volatility in the markets recently. We know the president said,
you know, don't raise interest rates. It's well-documented. The National Association of Realtors
chief economist says that it's starting to affect first-time homebuyers with the mortgage rates
going up. When do you think these pauses need to come in next year? Do we need to keep this,
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as you say, gradual? And then in addition, what data are you specifically looking at for you that
shows when the Federal Reserve starts to become that headwind in the economy with the rates.
CHAIRMAN POWELL. You know, we're watching, we have a strong forecast generally
for next year. That forecast involves growth, you know, between 2 and 2 1/2 percent. It involves
growth at a strong enough level to continue driving unemployment down and inflation near 2
percent. So that's a pretty positive forecast. So, to make further moves, I'll be looking for data
that suggests that that's, in fact, the path that we're on.
As I mentioned, once you're broadly speaking in the range of neutral, I think it's
appropriate to be putting aside individual estimates of that and be looking at what the incoming
data are telling you about the outlook, updating your estimates of what neutral might be, of what
the natural rate of unemployment might be, of the state of the economy. So, and letting that lead
you to adjust your outlook, and therefore, your appropriate path for policy. So that's what we
mean when we say we're data-dependent. Of course, we’re always data-dependent, but I think it
has a particular meaning in this context, which is that.
VICTORIA GUIDA. Hi Mr. Chairman. I wanted to ask, first of all, whether you're
worried that President Trump's tweeting in statements might interfere with your ability to
communicate with markets and why you're doing what you're doing. And then also, I was
wondering if you could comment on Governor Brainard gave a speech recently where she laid
out the case for the countercyclical capital buffer being activated. Do you disagree with her
analysis? Is that something that you think the Fed should look at doing?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. I'm not worried because about, on the first question, because I
know, and everyone who works at the Fed, knows that we're going to do our jobs the way we've
always done them. And that involves, you know, I think getting the best thinking together,
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diverse perspectives. We, every business, every FOMC cycle, we talk to hundreds of people in
all different parts of society, not just business people or market people, but people from
community development organizations. We get survey data from thousands of people, and so we
really do have a pretty broad exposure to what's going on in all different parts of the country.
And we're going to take all that information, and we're going to make the best decisions we can,
and nothing will cause us to deviate from that.
In terms of the CCyB, so the CCyB is, the countercyclical counter buffer, is a tool that
allows us to build capital at a time when vulnerabilities, financial stability vulnerabilities, are
meaningfully above normal. And so that's a tool I'd be absolutely willing to use and happy to use
at such time as that test is met. We meet and discuss that and evaluate it on a roughly an annual
basis. We haven't done it since early this year. I think we'll be doing it early next year, and we'll
be reaching that judgment then. I will tell you, I recently gave a speech saying that I believe that
financial stability vulnerabilities were roughly at a moderate level. So for me, but I would want
to leave open, my mind open, on that and have that discussion with my board colleagues when
the issue arises.
ANN SAPHIR. Ann Saphir with Reuters. You said that policy does not need at this point
to be accommodative. But does it need to be restrictive as the dots seem to suggest that it will
be?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Does it currently need to be restrictive? No. And I don't believe
that it is. I don't believe that policy is restrictive.
ANN SAPHIR. Next year, the dots suggest it will be restrictive next year. Should it be?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Yeah, I discussed this a couple of times. It's a very good
question. And I guess I would just go back to this. The individual forecasts are not something
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that the Committee votes on. They're out in the future. We vote on the rate increase, and we write
down our, you know, our own personal paths. So people have disparate views on what the
endpoint could be.
Ultimately, it's going to depend on what the circumstances are. There would be
circumstances in which it would be appropriate to go past neutral. And there would be
circumstances in which it would be wholly inappropriate to do so. So, I don't, I wouldn't put too
much on, it does inform you the way people are thinking about things. But I wouldn't take it as a
signal about current policy or about near-term policy.
PAUL KIERNAN. Hi, Paul Kiernan from Dow Jones Newswires. Thanks for the
question. In Dallas last month you talked about the usefulness of speaking with businesses,
sometimes hearing things that aren't yet showing up in the economic data. And I was just
wondering if you're hearing anything from businesses that might explain the recent market
moves. You know, are markets on to something that, again, hasn't showed up yet in the data.
Thanks.
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So, if you look at the Teal Book or, you know, we get the Teal
Book in person from the Reserve Bank presidents who come in, and they share their discussions,
not just with their directors, but with literally hundreds of business and nonprofit, you know, and
Labor Union people around the country. And I personally find it really interesting. My
background is very much working, starting with, you know, a small group of people, maybe a
company and working out. So that kind of anecdotal data really helps me capture the picture
better.
So, and you know, what you're picking up now, I think, is there's, you know, a mood of
concern, or it's a mood of angst about growth going forward. If I could just capture it in one
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thought. There are many reasons that are given for that, but generally speaking, it's a concern
about is growth going to be as strong as it was? Why not, what it might be to different people?
But that mood is out there. That doesn't mean that it'll come into the real data in a big way, it
may, but, or that financial conditions will tighten further. We'll just have to see. For now,
financial conditions have tightened a little bit. We've taken that onboard both in the outcomes, in
our forecast, but also in a lower rate path to, you know, to provide some accommodation to push
back against that tightening. That's how I think about it.
GREG ROBB. Greg Robb from Market Watch. Just following up on Paul's question,
President Trump said recently that you should feel the markets. So when you see the markets,
you know, what are the markets telling you?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. You know, financial conditions, broadly speaking, we don't
look at any one market. We look at a really big range of financial conditions. And what matters
for the broader economy is material changes in a broad range of financial conditions that are
sustained for a period of time. A little bit of volatility, speaking in the abstract, some volatility
doesn't probably leave a mark on the economy. So we look for that.
And, you know, what we've seen here is a tightening. There's been a tightening since
right around after, a week or so after the September meeting. And you know, that, we tried to
factor that into our models of the economy and to the result that come out of those models. That's
how we think about it. So, we do, you know, we follow markets really carefully. But remember,
from a macroeconomic standpoint, no one market is the single dominant indicator and really
matters if changes are sustained over time.
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NANCY MARSHALL-GENZER. Nancy Marshall-Genzer with Marketplace. Do you
still think core PCE is a good measure of whether the economy is overheating? What do you
think of other measures like setting a target for economic growth and relying more on that?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Well, I think we look at both, but core PCE is a good indicator.
It has, what's happened over really 50 years is that inflation has become much less reactive to
changes in growth. There was a time when inflation reacted really quickly to changes in growth
and changes in unemployment. And that time is behind us. And that is often attributed to the
success of central banks in anchoring inflation expectations so that people believe that inflation
will come back to the target or around the target so it doesn't go down as much, inflation doesn't
go down as much, and a downturn doesn't go up as much when the, you know, when the
economy is strong.
It's really true, though, that inflation has not reacted a lot on a road from 10 percent
unemployment to now 3.7 percent unemployment. Now it did move up last year. But in terms of
just targeting growth, you know, I think actually think our dual mandate works very well, which
is maximum employment and stable prices. Most of the time, those two things work together.
When they work temporarily in different ways, we take a balanced approach. But I think that
approach has served us well, and I think we can work well with it.
DONNA BORAK. Chairman Powell, Donna Borak with CNN. Next year, every meeting
will be a live meeting. So presumably, there will be some adjustment in how the market
anticipates when a rate hike is coming. How has the Committee thought through communicating
those potential policy moves, especially in light of the fact of the tremendous amount of
uncertainty going into next year?
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CHAIRMAN POWELL. I think having regular press conferences will be a big gain for
communication. I certainly hope it will. That's the plan. And so, being able to come out after
each meeting and explain the Committee's thinking and relate that to the state of the economy
and expectations for policy and global developments, I think it'll be, the idea is that it'll be
helpful in explaining how we're thinking and, you know, explaining what we're thinking about
policy going forward. So, that's the plan. I do believe it will be a positive development.
I think it'll also become the case over time that there will be no prior as to whether we
would move at a quarterly meeting or one of the meetings at which we do not file an SEP. As
you know, we only update our projections under the current approach quarterly, whereas we
have eight meetings. So I think we'll move to a more, we'll have the ability to move at eight
different meetings, not eight times. But, at eight different meetings on the year.
DONNA BORAK. I guess that's sort of the question that I'm trying to drive out is that in
terms of communicating to the market, because we've been, the market has been so adjusted to
the fact that these are quarter-end rate hikes, and now you have the potential to move eight times
a year, is the Fed thinking through how it's going to communicate when it plans, especially given
the amount of uncertainty?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Yes, I mean I think that's probably pretty straightforward. If we,
you know, if we're, if we want to communicate something about something that's going to
happen in a future meeting, I think we know how to do that in speeches, in press conferences and
such.
DON LEE. Don Lee with the LA Times. You mentioned broad base wage gains this year
and wondering if you see further acceleration in wage growth and just how much slack there is in
the labor market.
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CHAIRMAN POWELL. So what we've seen is a very gradual, and I think ongoing,
increase in wages. If you go back a few years, you'll see that we look at many, many indicators
of wages and compensation. But there are four principle ones. And they were all kind of
clustered around two, if you go back five years ago, 2 percent increase per year. Now they are all
at three, and they've just continued to gradually move up, not perfectly in synch, but, and that's a
number that is, you know, right in keeping with 2 percent inflation and 1 percent productivity
growth. So in an economic sense, it makes sense.
I do expect, and I think many forecasters expect, that wage increases will continue, and
that would be a welcome development. Wage increases do not need to be inflationary. There's
plenty of evidence of situations, for example, in the very tight labor market of the late 1990s of a,
I think in a mentioned in a speech a month or so ago, we had wage increases above productivity
plus inflation. We didn't have high inflation. So, it would be welcome. We hear a great deal of
anecdotal information about labor shortages, along with other, you know, bottlenecks and things.
So I would expect that wages will keep moving up, and it doesn't necessarily mean inflation. We
don't think of it that way. So, did that answer your question?
Labor psych. Yes, so you know, by most indicators, we look at a very wide range of
indicators on the labor market. And by most indicators, we are at or even above longer run
normal levels. But I would point to one particular pocket, and that is, labor force participation by
younger prime age workers, particularly prime age males, is still, you know, meaningfully below
its pre-crisis level. Most other age groups in both genders have moved back up pretty close to
where they were at the last cyclical peak. You know, there's a question, can we go above that
cyclical peak? And or are the problems more structural than cyclical, and there isn't, so we'll
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have to find that out. I think, given a strong economy, we've had the luxury of finding out that
labor force participation can be higher than we had thought. And that's nothing but a good thing.
JOHN HELTMAN. Hi, John Heltman with American Banker. A regulatory question, if I
may. So, many of the Fed’s regulatory proposals so far, especially this year, have been primarily
focused on banks in the sort of medium to small range. That is, a sort of tailoring enhanced
prudential standards, particularly for those banks, and I'm thinking of the stress capital buffer, as
well as the most recent proposal on banks between $100 and $250 billion. G-SIBs and the largest
banks seem to be sort of left out in a lot of these proposals, and I'm wondering if that is meant to
send a message that the Fed really does not intend to change its regulatory structure for the
largest banks going forward. Or if you'll get to that maybe later. I'm thinking specifically of the
G-SIB capital surcharge which several members of Congress has sent letters to you asking you to
revisit and reconsider.
CHAIRMAN POWELL. So you're right that a big focus of what we've been doing has
been tailoring regulations, and the sense of tailoring is that we want to look below the level of
the G-SIBs at the large regionals and then on down to the community banks at various steps and
ask whether we have appropriately tailored regulation and supervision to account for the fact that
smaller and less complex organizations present a much less significant threat to the economy and
to the community should they fail, should they experience material difficulty. So in the nature of
that, you're focused more on the smaller institutions.
I think with the larger institutions, we want regulation and supervision to be effective and
efficient. I know that the larger institutions tend to be the ones who care about the Volcker Rule.
That's something we're working on. You know, we think that things need to be looked at
carefully, and again, I wouldn't want to materially change capital levels, because I think, you
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now, it's important that the largest financial institutions, the largest and most complex, the
systemically important ones, be held to the highest standards and higher expectations. While we
may tailor some regulations, those fundamentally high expectations are not going to change.
STEVEN BECKNER. Steve Beckner, freelance financial journalist reporting for NPR,
Chairman Powell. I know you look at many different financial indicators but let me focus your
attention briefly on bond yields. The ten-year note yield is gone down pretty steeply, roughly 50
basis points, I think, in recent weeks. I wonder what you make of it. Is it a worrisome sign for
you in terms of the outlook for growth, for inflation? On the other hand, could it be a positive in
terms of presumably bringing down mortgage rates and helping the housing sector?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. Again, we do focus on a broad range of financial indicators, and
really, we don't obsess about any particular one. You know, we look at a whole range of them,
and we ask ourselves what's really going on in the broad picture out there. You know, if you ask
what's going on with the long, certainly the longer maturity, Treasury market has come in some.
That's consistent with, you know, a risk off feeling in the stock market as well. And you know,
we don't know whether that will persist. Really, the longer Treasury has moved in a range above
3 percent and down 3 percent as a risk sentiment has changed. You know, I think, if rates were to
stay low for a longer period of time, that could be thought of as a signal of expectations of lower
growth. But, you know, we don't know that that'll happen. As I mentioned, our forecast for next
year is, I think in keeping with most other forecasts, is that we'll still have solid growth next year,
declining unemployment and a healthy economy.
COURTENAY BROWN. Hi Chairman, Courtenay Brown from Axios. I'm wondering if
you could clear up what's become a little bit of a debate in the financial community. You said in
October in an interview with PBS that interest rates were a long way from neutral. A month later
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you said interest rates were just below neutral. And I think a lot of people interpreted that as a
shift in tone from you. Were they right to interpret it that way?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. You know, monetary policy is a forward-looking exercise, and
I'm going to, I'm just going to stick with that. It's, where we are right now is we're at the lower
end of the range of neutral. We've arrived effectively at the bottom end of that range. And, you
know, there are implications of that. For that, as I mentioned, going forward, there's real
uncertainty about the path, the pace rather, and the destination for further rate increases. And
we're going to be letting incoming data inform our thinking about the appropriate path.
MICHELLE FLEURY. Michelle Fleury, BBC News. Chairman Powell, you talked about
monitoring global developments. I was wondering, you touched on the trade dispute with China.
But could you elaborate on what economic developments you're referring to where the Brexit is
one of those what else?
CHAIRMAN POWELL. More broadly, I'm referring to global growth. So if you go back
a year, 2017 was a year of kind of ongoing upside surprises in global growth. It was the year of
synchronized global growth. And people raised their forecast for growth around the world, kind
of throughout 2017. And in some sense, expect that to continue into 2018. What has happened,
instead, has been a modest retracing of that. So you have still healthy levels of growth in the
aggregate around the world, but close to the potential growth rate of, you know, the global
economy. But you no longer have the really strong levels of growth you had in 2017. So that is
one, that's, I think, the key fact. We also monitor, you know, event risks like Brexit, like you
know, like the negotiations between Italy and the EU over their budget. And, you know, as far as
those are concerned, we monitor them very carefully. And I'm going to, I'll mention Brexit. Our
financial institutions have had a long time now to get ready for a full range of possible exits from
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the EU by the UK. And they've had supervisory involvement from U.S. supervisors from UK
supervisors from EU supervisors, we think they are fully prepared for the full range of outcomes
that may come out of that. I was very happy to see the developments around central
counterparties today. That was a big issue that seems to have been satisfactorily, for the time
being, resolved. So it's something we're watching carefully. Honestly, it shouldn't have major
implications for the United States, but you know, there's a lot of uncertainty because it's not
something that's happened before. So we'll be watching it carefully. Thanks very much.
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Cite this document
APA
Jerome H. Powell (2018, December 18). FOMC Press Conference Transcript. Press Conferences, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/press_conference_20181219
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_press_conference_20181219,
author = {Jerome H. Powell},
title = {FOMC Press Conference Transcript},
year = {2018},
month = {Dec},
howpublished = {Press Conferences, Federal Reserve},
url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/press_conference_20181219},
note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}